Will Split Ventures show up in games for people that don't own the DLC?

[Shehriazad]

If yes then that is all I will be sending.

Can anyone give some input here? ^^

[chew-ie]

I can't imagine how that should work - people without the DLCs lack the assets to display Split vessels.

Technically your venture ship is only some meta data which is interpreted in others people games. You are not streaming the ship data including geometry, texture etc. (that's also why using mods does not work - a new / modified ship can't be interpreted)

[Shehriazad]

I can't imagine how that should work - people without the DLCs lack the assets to display Split vessels.

Technically your venture ship is only some meta data which is interpreted in others people games. You are not streaming the ship data including geometry, texture etc. (that's also why using mods does not work - a new / modified ship can't be interpreted)

Don't you download the dlc assets, anyway?

Plus what would happen if the majority of people use dlc weapons and/or ships? Egosoft would have to go out of their way to create dummy ships/loadouts that replace whatever the dlc owner is sending...otherwise people without the dlc would stop receiving any ventures whatsoever O.O

[chew-ie]

Don't you download the dlc assets, anyway?

Only if you own the DLC, then you get access to it.

Plus what would happen if the majority of people us dlc weapons and/or ships? Egosoft would have to go out of their way to create dummy ships/loadouts that replace whatever the dlc owner is sending...otherwise people without the dlc would stop receiving any ventures whatsoever O.O

I guess they map "unknown ships" just to whatever comes closest in terms of ship class or define a fallback map. (I'd program it this way )

[Shehriazad]

Don't you download the dlc assets, anyway?

Only if you own the DLC, then you get access to it.

Plus what would happen if the majority of people us dlc weapons and/or ships? Egosoft would have to go out of their way to create dummy ships/loadouts that replace whatever the dlc owner is sending...otherwise people without the dlc would stop receiving any ventures whatsoever O.O

I guess they map "unknown ships" just to whatever comes closest in terms of ship class or define a fallback map. (I'd program it this way )

Seems like an unnecessary amount of work if instead you could just set dlc ships to un-capturable for non dlc owners and have a way to show the new ships off to make people want them even more? :0

Either way I'd be disappointed if you can't send your actual split ships over to others.

[chew-ie]

But how could you show a player who doesn't have the asset (the geometry, textures etc.) a ship? It just won't work...

[Shehriazad]

But how could you show a player who doesn't have the asset (the geometry, textures etc.) a ship? It just won't work...

By simply having them download the assets either way...it would also make patching easier. Otherwise they will have to keep making a base game and a dlc patch.

[chew-ie]

Not sure any company would do that - those assets are the main selling point of the DLC ...

[Shehriazad]

Not sure any company would do that - those assets are the main selling point of the DLC ...

What? You mean no company would let you download the DLC assets? Because that is what the grand majority of games do nowadays.(There are even the hated practices of "DLC on a Disk" and "Day One DLC") Especially for games with online components ,which this game kinda is to a degree, it has become a norm.

Like I said if you don't let people download the assets you will either have to make different patches for different versions or the game or even have extra work to ensure there are no conflicts with online content/base game. If the game didn't have ventures, not downloading the assets would be a no-brainer, but like this?

I'd also argue that having some base game owner see a Split S/M once in every few hundred ships would likely only increase their interest if anything.

But in the end any more discussion in this direction is awfully pointless as we'd need official response here to get actual FACTS.