New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

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wizaerd
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New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

Post by wizaerd »

Tried the flight school tutorial, and it is messy... text on the screen while the dude is trying to give instructions so trying to listen to him... Doing an EVA, the dude says get back in the ship but never once mentions how, missed so many on screen prompts because the pacing is absolutely horrible. If you're an X veteran, you probably skip right past most of it, but as a non-veteran player, it needs to slow down and actually explain somethings. Eventually made it back in my ship, but the had to dock at a station... Trying to dock, and the green ghost image, which is supposed to show the way to the dock, has be trying to fly right through the damn station; it does not show a path... tried to dock, it canceled out and moved my waypoint, and when I moved the waypoint moved back to the original spot, could never actually get it docked, I had to cancel out and start all over again. Not impressed thus far...
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Re: New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

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wizaerd wrote: Wed, 1. Apr 20, 16:55 Tried the flight school tutorial, and it is messy... text on the screen while the dude is trying to give instructions so trying to listen to him... Doing an EVA, the dude says get back in the ship but never once mentions how, missed so many on screen prompts because the pacing is absolutely horrible. If you're an X veteran, you probably skip right past most of it, but as a non-veteran player, it needs to slow down and actually explain somethings. Eventually made it back in my ship, but the had to dock at a station... Trying to dock, and the green ghost image, which is supposed to show the way to the dock, has be trying to fly right through the damn station; it does not show a path... tried to dock, it canceled out and moved my waypoint, and when I moved the waypoint moved back to the original spot, could never actually get it docked, I had to cancel out and start all over again. Not impressed thus far...
Eh it wasn't that bad. I docked the first time on the first try. Interestingly when I tried to dock on my own I got into trouble. But it turns out my nose wasn't pitched right. No issues after that...yet.

And the stuff he was saying was pretty clear. And I was doing this with a HOTAS while adjusting my controls on the fly. When he tells you to return to the ship it should be pretty obvious that you need to retrace your steps so I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Re: New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

Post by Vespa »

Slashman wrote: Wed, 1. Apr 20, 17:46 Eh it wasn't that bad. I docked the first time on the first try. Interestingly when I tried to dock on my own I got into trouble. But it turns out my nose wasn't pitched right. No issues after that...yet.

And the stuff he was saying was pretty clear. And I was doing this with a HOTAS while adjusting my controls on the fly. When he tells you to return to the ship it should be pretty obvious that you need to retrace your steps so I'm not sure what to tell you.
As an aside, when someone posts an issue they have, responses comparable to "git gud" or "it wasn't that bad" (AKA "I'm invalidating your perspective") are always a treat.

The tutorial is broken. It was broken at launch and is broken now. Having just played the game after a year hiatus, the tutorial not only remains flawed (sometimes there's a narration, sometimes not), but it hasn't even started for me multiple times in a row. Is it non-existent now? It used to automatically start. Now, nothing. You just start in a station by your ship (Young Gun scenario) with zero guidance. Not kosher. I don't know if the tutorial has been changed (due to bugs that weren't able to be remedied) or not. Perhaps now pressing "H" and manually choosing different tutorial options is the only way to go - which would work no matter which starting scenario chosen. That typed, the Young Gun scenario is listed as including tutorials.
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Re: New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

Post by radcapricorn »

I think that particular entry never was valid, since all starts "include" tutorials in the Help menu. The ones you're talking about you always had to manually activate. There are a few tips, now, that pop up in particular circumstances.

Anyway, the OP is talking about the dedicated tutorial gamestart, not the ones built into the Help menu.
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Re: New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

Post by Skeeter »

One thing would be is not place the tutorial msg boxes in the centre of the screen but above or below. Its not good practice to put them in the centre devs.
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Re: New Tutorial? Just as bad as the old one

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Skeeter wrote: Tue, 7. Apr 20, 01:08 One thing would be is not place the tutorial msg boxes in the centre of the screen but above or below. Its not good practice to put them in the centre devs.
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And this does not only apply to the tutorial .

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