Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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This is the second time this happens now. I'm trying to build a station, and one of the ships who has reserved wares to deliver to it gets stuck on the way.
I am not sure how a ship can even get stuck when I'm not anywhere near the building system and its collision detection should be deactivated.

My station is stuck in construction limbo now, waiting for that Energy Cell delivery that should happen in 4 minutes, but never gets any closer.
Can I somehow fix this, without cancelling the build and starting over?

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I have another Energy Cell delivery stuck for another station at 8 minutes.
Both stations have enough money.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Nexuscrawler wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 16:53 This is the second time this happens now. I'm trying to build a station, and one of the ships who has reserved wares to deliver to it gets stuck on the way.
I am not sure how a ship can even get stuck when I'm not anywhere near the building system and its collision detection should be deactivated.
Pirates keep attacking it forcing it to divert. Or it was attacked (pirates, Xenon, Kahak or enemies) and is forced to repair but is stuck waiting for resources to repair.
Nexuscrawler wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 16:53 My station is stuck in construction limbo now, waiting for that Energy Cell delivery that should happen in 4 minutes, but never gets any closer.
Can I somehow fix this, without cancelling the build and starting over?
Yes you can fix it very easily by ordering one of your own ships to transfer Energy Cells to the station Build Storage. Construction is paused waiting for resources in the Build Storage, it does not care how those resources arrive so your transferred Energy Cells will be used if they arrive before the brought ones. Use map view (defaulted to M key) to order your ships to buy, sell or transfer product.

For example select a ship, right click a solar power plant and select buy, then configure some amount of energy cells to buy. Then right click on your station and say Transfer with Build Storage and configure some amount of energy cells to transfer. One can view and modify the ship's current orders from the ship's information display in the order tab.

Lack a suitable ship? Technically any fight ship will work seeing how you only need to move 167 Energy Cells. But in case you want to move more, no problem, just take one from the SCA! SCA operates "courier" illegal smugglers which you can force to bail very easily. These ships have 1k-2k container storage which is more than enough to efficiently move thousands of energy cells to the build storage. SCA Minotaur Raiders also have several thousand container storage so are good to move small amounts of product around.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Imperial Good wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 17:05 Yes you can fix it very easily by ordering one of your own ships to transfer Energy Cells to the station Build Storage.
I did that now and the construction continued, thanks.
Imperial Good wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 17:05 Pirates keep attacking it forcing it to divert. Or it was attacked (pirates, Xenon, Kahak or enemies) and is forced to repair but is stuck waiting for resources to repair.
That seems unlikely. All Wharfs and Shipyards have enough resources to produce and repair ships and a pirat attack alone should not be able to lock a ship down for several hours.
The other delivery that is 8 minutes out is stuck for several days now. I just stopped bothering there.


EDIT: The construction is now complete, but the ship is still trying to deliver the Energy Cells that are no longer needed.

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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Nexuscrawler wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 17:11 and a pirat attack alone should not be able to lock a ship down for several hours.
It can due to getting stuck in a loop. Pirate threatens ship, ship flees, pirate fails to attack ship and gives up, both ship and pirate return to active duty, same trade ship runs into a pirate in the same area, process repeats. This is especially the case with PAR and HOP because their traders are very fast so will most likely escape from pirates. HOP traders in non-HOP space also suffer from being victims of war so they might repeatedly try to deliver but be forced to repair due to OoS combat damage from local military forces. Your deal is from a HOP trader, and if not in HOP space this makes total sense.
Nexuscrawler wrote: Sat, 1. Jun 19, 17:11 EDIT: The construction is now complete, but the ship is still trying to deliver the Energy Cells that are no longer needed.
Find the ship and follow, it will either eventually deliver, or be shot up in the process.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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I also had some construction delays several times, due to HOP trades being attack by other faction patrols.

My advice - try to become self supplied as soon as possible, because NPC trades are often unreliable.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Imperial Good wrote: Sun, 2. Jun 19, 01:34 Find the ship and follow, it will either eventually deliver, or be shot up in the process.
I tried to find that ship, but was not able to.
It can't be too far away, because my station is in Nopileos Fortune II and since that system is huge, it can't be more than 1-2 gates away if it only has 4 minutes left.
I was not able to find that ship anywhere close.
mr.WHO wrote: Sun, 2. Jun 19, 09:53 My advice - try to become self supplied as soon as possible, because NPC trades are often unreliable.
I agree, they are unreliable. The problem is, even if I become self supplied, those stuck NPC ships will never go away from the list of reserved deliveries.
There's ALWAYS 167 Energy Cells on their way to that station's building storage now, and since they are always reserved, my ships will never automatically deliver those last few cells.
As soon as one NPC ship gets stuck delivering wares to your station's build storage, it means you'll have to deliver those wares manually to the station now, whenever you build something.
The build will never finish automatically.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Nexuscrawler wrote: Sun, 2. Jun 19, 20:01 I tried to find that ship, but was not able to.
It can't be too far away, because my station is in Nopileos Fortune II and since that system is huge, it can't be more than 1-2 gates away if it only has 4 minutes left.
I was not able to find that ship anywhere close.
It's a HOP ship traveling to Nopileos Fortune. It's bound to get attacked by pirates, or get into a hustle with PAR forces (if you happen to be in-sector), or even Xenon (depending on where it's coming from), thereby delaying its arrival. It also may be possible (I'm not certain) that it could be diverted via the encounter mechanics.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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radcapricorn wrote: Sun, 2. Jun 19, 20:06 It's a HOP ship traveling to Nopileos Fortune. It's bound to get attacked by pirates, or get into a hustle with PAR forces (if you happen to be in-sector), or even Xenon (depending on where it's coming from), thereby delaying its arrival.
That ship is 4 minutes out since over 24h now.
There are other HOP ships reaching my station just fine, so if this is an issue with pirates, they really must not like that guy.
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Re: Station-Construction not finishing, because Energy Cell Delivery is stuck

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Nexuscrawler wrote: Sun, 2. Jun 19, 20:15 That ship is 4 minutes out since over 24h now...
Could be worth uploading a save and posting a link in the Tech. Sp.

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