Shipyards

[Scorpion1948]

I have got 4 shipyards L/M/S and the repair modules for both, also almost all ship and module blueprints. Argon/Parinid/Teladi.

All 4 yards are self sufficient and always full of what it takes to build, but very few orders are coming through.

My question is is it best to build/repair at 100% or 150% cost or somewhere in between.

[visi]

150% the npc are very generous.
Especially hop

[burger1]

Your shipyards should almost never be empty if you sell to hop. Do you have all their small and medium sentinel ship blueprints and small/medium weapon, thruster and shield blue prints? Hop will buy like crazy at 150%. Other factions will have few orders and it might depend on what the HOP ships do. I had no xl ship orders (never bought the building ship blueprint or level 3 thrusters/engines) but lots for HOP L size destroyers. HOP also buys non combat ships. The small/medium ship yard should be busy.

Did you destroy the xenon sector by HOPs area? If there's xenon there you can hide in a station and afk while the xenon blow up all the HOP ships in true light or whatever their shipyard sector is. You can also watch ships be produced and fight by the shipyards.

[Falcrack]

Since the factions have unlimited credits, it does not matter to them if they pay you 1 million credits or 1 billion credits. They do not order any less if you increase the cost from 100% to 150%.

All of this begs the questions, why does that price slider even exist at all? All I can see is it penalizes those who are unaware of the AI behavior as far as ship buying.

Now, if AI would actually place orders based on trying to get the best price, and you had to compete with other shipyards based on cost, then the slider would make sense.

[Scorpion1948]

Thanks, I will make sure that I have a lot more hop blueprints.

[MakerLinux]

How do you set up these prices? Prices for repairing other people's ships and for selling ships? I couldn't find it anywhere.

[Falcrack]

How do you set up these prices? Prices for repairing other people's ships and for selling ships? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Go to logical overview for the shipyard, click on the module (S/m, l, or xl). There will be a little slider where you can set the prices. Default is 100% of the average price, but there is no reason not to set it to 150%, as you will get the same amount of orders regardless of what prices you set.

[Mysterial]

Since the factions have unlimited credits, it does not matter to them if they pay you 1 million credits or 1 billion credits. They do not order any less if you increase the cost from 100% to 150%.

All of this begs the questions, why does that price slider even exist at all? All I can see is it penalizes those who are unaware of the AI behavior as far as ship buying.

Now, if AI would actually place orders based on trying to get the best price, and you had to compete with other shipyards based on cost, then the slider would make sense.

They're supposed to, but a combination of flaws in the way the AI is set up plus the reality that most of the faction shipyards are almost never idle means that none of the price considerations matter.

[MakerLinux]

How do you set up these prices? Prices for repairing other people's ships and for selling ships? I couldn't find it anywhere.

Go to logical overview for the shipyard, click on the module (S/m, l, or xl). There will be a little slider where you can set the prices. Default is 100% of the average price, but there is no reason not to set it to 150%, as you will get the same amount of orders regardless of what prices you set.

Thank you very much. To be frank I have got in that screen before but I could not understand where you would set prices; thing is, I had to scroll it sideways to see the S/M module. And even then, it was not obvious that it was configurable.