More specialized ships and specialized missions please

[Cyron43]

Yesterday I watched some Star Citizen videos and I saw a kind of TOW SHIP which the player can buy and use to make money by towing disabled ships or various other things. I'd love to see such a thing in X4 along with missions regarding such ships. https://youtu.be/_uOu9btFbq0?t=15

Another thing I'd love to have would be my PERSONAL YACHT. Currently I use a Cerberus with a 'Captain Pearle' paint job to have me chauffeured to various spots like faction representatives for buying new blueprints and stuff or to bring me from one of my stations to another or just for exploring. I guess it would be too much to ask for a yacht like this Star Citizen 600i with all it's interiors but the beautiful and luxury overall design should be doable - oh and please add a passenger cabin with usable seats. https://youtu.be/Um-MPtUL9Nc?t=15

[Gween]

There were "Yacht-type" TP Ships in X3. I guess they will implement them again in a DLC because they really make sense considering you have a real Character now.

TPs in general would be a nice addition to the game again.

[Red-Spot]

Seeing X3TC and AP even more so had this already (except for the actual interiors, but that seems somewhat trivial with how X4 is set up), so I'd almost assume Ego will bring it back, redefine it and expand on it in time
(Tow-ship = tractorbeam, just need a dedicated ship for it unlike how it worked in X3. // Yacht = luxury TP.)

[Cyron43]

Hi guys, sorry but I'm not familiar with all these abbreviations. What does TP and AP mean? I guess X3TC means X3 terran conflict?
Anyway thank you and I'm glad to hear this is in the realm of possibilities.

[Buzz2005]

Yes, TP for slaves, marines or just workers would be great, with marine barracks and transport missions involving above mentioned characters in mass

Like a shipyards needs crew for ships, or SCA needs slaves, or marines in defense stations
And NPC TP to fill stations with workers, dont just limit us to this slow waiting to fill them up

Trade stations could be people hubs

[Buzz2005]

Hi guys, sorry but I'm not familiar with all these abbreviations. What does TP and AP mean? I guess X3TC means X3 terran conflict?
Anyway thank you and I'm glad to hear this is in the realm of possibilities.

AP is X3 Albion Prelude, TP is transporter in X3 for people

[Red-Spot]

Hi guys, sorry but I'm not familiar with all these abbreviations. What does TP and AP mean? I guess X3TC means X3 terran conflict?
Anyway thank you and I'm glad to hear this is in the realm of possibilities.

Previous games used standard labels for ships:
M* = combat (military)
T* = transport

M1 to M5 initially later on M6 added and even later M7 and M8 got added.
TS = bulk transport (goods)
TP = 'personal' transport (people)
TL = 'large' transport (stations)

Games:
X3R = Reunion
X3TC = Terran conflict
X3AP = Albion prelude
XR = Rebirth

I could go into weapons now, but you'll probably do not like me doing that

[Cyron43]

Thank you all for your great replies.

[photomankc]

I could go into weapons now, but you'll probably do not like me doing that

Oh dear God! Took me 6 months to figure out all the weapons abbreviations and remember them. I still only knew about maybe 6 missiles in that game. Could not keep track of the rest.

[lordmuck]

I would suggest all ships we had in x3 to tc / ap including their models ... rofl

[r4tch3t]

I could go into weapons now, but you'll probably do not like me doing that

Ill do it.
All from here https://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq ... answer=941

Weapons

Weapons are divided into types.

Some weapon types have several variants: Alpha, Beta and occasionally Gamma. The Alpha costs the least, has the fastest fire rate and uses the least energy, but does the least damage. The Gamma variant is the most expensive, slow firing and energy-draining, but does the most damage. Unsurprisingly, the Beta variant is somewhere between the two. The variants are normally abbreviated to A, B and G and added as a prefix to the laser name abbreviation.

CFA Cluster Flak Array
CIG Concussion Impulse Generator
EBC Energy Bolt Chaingun
(E)EMPC (Experimental) Electro-magnetic Pulse Cannon
FAA
FLAK Flak Artillery Array
FBC Fusion Beam Cannon (experimental weapon)
FBL Fragmentation Bomb Launcher
FD Fighter Drone
GC Gauss Cannon
HEPT High-Energy Plasma Thrower
IBL Incendiary Bomb Launcher
IC Ion Cannon
ID
IonD Ion Disruptor
IPG Ion Pulse Generator
ISR Ion Shard Railgun
IRE Impulse Ray Emitter
KYON
AKYON
BKYON
GKYON Kyon Emitter (Kha'ak ships only)
(P)M/AM
M/AL
M/AML (Prototype) Matter/Anti-matter Launcher
MD Mass Driver
MDS Mobile Drilling System
PAC Particle Accelerator Cannon
PALC Phased Array Laser Cannon (experimental weapon)
PBC Plasma Beam Cannon (lasertower weapon)
PBE Pulsed Beam Emitter
PBG Plasma Burst Generator (flamethrower)
PPC Photon Pulse Cannon
PRG Phased Repeater Gun
PSG Phased Shockwave Generator
PSP Point Singularity Projector
(P)SSC (Prototype) Starburst Shockwave Cannon
TB Tractor Beam
TBC
TBLC Tri-Beam Laser Cannon (experimental weapon)



Shields

The type of a shield is indicated by a number showing its maximum strength.

1MJ 1,000KJ
5MJ 5,000KJ
25MJ 25,000KJ
200MJ 200,000KJ
1GJ 1,000,000KJ
2GJ 2,000,000KJ



Equipment

These are a few of the many kinds of equipment that can be installed on a ship.

CLS
CLSS Cargo Life Support System
CLS1 Commodity Logistics Software MK1 (bonus pack)
CLS2 Commodity Logistics Software MK2 (bonus pack)
JD Jump Drive
UFJD Unfocussed Jump Drive
SETA Singularity Engine Time Accelerator
SOS System Override Software
SSS Software Signature Scrambler
VEG
VEGs Video Enhancement Goggles



Ship Classes

Ships are divided into classes according to their purpose. Most races have at least one type of ship in each class.

M0 Planet-killer (not used in Terran Conflict)
M1 Carrier
M2 Destroyer
M3(+) Heavy fighter (Improved)
M4(+) Medium fighter (Improved)
M5 Scout
M6 Corvette
M7 Frigate
M7M Missile Frigate
M8 Bomber
TS Transport Small
TL Transport Large (can transport station kits)
TP Transport Personnel/Passenger
TM Transport Military (a small carrier ship)
OWP Orbital Weapons Platform
LT Laser Tower
NavSat Navigation Relay Satellite
AdvSat Advanced Satellite



Ship Variants

For smaller ships, most races have some variants of the basic ship types. Not all races have all variants available to buy at ship yards, and some don't even exist in a normal game.

Fighters can have up to four variants, typically having the following characteristics (though there is some variation so these rules do not always hold).

Raider Faster, less shielding and less cargo
Vanguard Faster, sometimes less shielding, sometimes better weapons
Hauler Slower, more cargo space
Sentinel Slower, more shielding, sometimes less cargo space


Small freighters may also have variants, again depending on race and again with not all variants being available for all ships.

Hauler Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Miner Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Tanker Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Tanker XL Even slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Super-freighter Even slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Super-freighter XL Even slower again, even more shielding, even more cargo space


Certain ships also come in 'heavy, 'prototype', 'advanced' or 'enhanced' variants - this usually indicates an upgraded version of the basic ship.

[ei8htx]

Yesterday I watched some Star Citizen videos and I saw a kind of TOW SHIP which the player can buy and use to make money by towing disabled ships or various other things. I'd love to see such a thing in X4 along with missions regarding such ships. https://youtu.be/_uOu9btFbq0?t=15

Another thing I'd love to have would be my PERSONAL YACHT. Currently I use a Cerberus with a 'Captain Pearle' paint job to have me chauffeured to various spots like faction representatives for buying new blueprints and stuff or to bring me from one of my stations to another or just for exploring. I guess it would be too much to ask for a yacht like this Star Citizen 600i with all it's interiors but the beautiful and luxury overall design should be doable - oh and please add a passenger cabin with usable seats. https://youtu.be/Um-MPtUL9Nc?t=15

Ironically, in X3 Reunion, the (subjectively) best ship was a Paranid yacht you had to tow out of dangerous space. It could dock a small fighter (which was totally awesome for X3R at the time), and cruised oh so nicely.

Would love to find a ship like this while wandering around in X4, with busted engines requiring you to tow it. Ofc X4 would need tractor beams like X3.

Ref
viewtopic.php?t=189130
http://www.xdatabase.de/x3-reunion/en/s ... .s173.html

[Gween]

I could go into weapons now, but you'll probably do not like me doing that

Ill do it.
All from here https://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq ... answer=941

Weapons

Weapons are divided into types.

Some weapon types have several variants: Alpha, Beta and occasionally Gamma. The Alpha costs the least, has the fastest fire rate and uses the least energy, but does the least damage. The Gamma variant is the most expensive, slow firing and energy-draining, but does the most damage. Unsurprisingly, the Beta variant is somewhere between the two. The variants are normally abbreviated to A, B and G and added as a prefix to the laser name abbreviation.

CFA Cluster Flak Array
CIG Concussion Impulse Generator
EBC Energy Bolt Chaingun
(E)EMPC (Experimental) Electro-magnetic Pulse Cannon
FAA
FLAK Flak Artillery Array
FBC Fusion Beam Cannon (experimental weapon)
FBL Fragmentation Bomb Launcher
FD Fighter Drone
GC Gauss Cannon
HEPT High-Energy Plasma Thrower
IBL Incendiary Bomb Launcher
IC Ion Cannon
ID
IonD Ion Disruptor
IPG Ion Pulse Generator
ISR Ion Shard Railgun
IRE Impulse Ray Emitter
KYON
AKYON
BKYON
GKYON Kyon Emitter (Kha'ak ships only)
(P)M/AM
M/AL
M/AML (Prototype) Matter/Anti-matter Launcher
MD Mass Driver
MDS Mobile Drilling System
PAC Particle Accelerator Cannon
PALC Phased Array Laser Cannon (experimental weapon)
PBC Plasma Beam Cannon (lasertower weapon)
PBE Pulsed Beam Emitter
PBG Plasma Burst Generator (flamethrower)
PPC Photon Pulse Cannon
PRG Phased Repeater Gun
PSG Phased Shockwave Generator
PSP Point Singularity Projector
(P)SSC (Prototype) Starburst Shockwave Cannon
TB Tractor Beam
TBC
TBLC Tri-Beam Laser Cannon (experimental weapon)



Shields

The type of a shield is indicated by a number showing its maximum strength.

1MJ 1,000KJ
5MJ 5,000KJ
25MJ 25,000KJ
200MJ 200,000KJ
1GJ 1,000,000KJ
2GJ 2,000,000KJ



Equipment

These are a few of the many kinds of equipment that can be installed on a ship.

CLS
CLSS Cargo Life Support System
CLS1 Commodity Logistics Software MK1 (bonus pack)
CLS2 Commodity Logistics Software MK2 (bonus pack)
JD Jump Drive
UFJD Unfocussed Jump Drive
SETA Singularity Engine Time Accelerator
SOS System Override Software
SSS Software Signature Scrambler
VEG
VEGs Video Enhancement Goggles



Ship Classes

Ships are divided into classes according to their purpose. Most races have at least one type of ship in each class.

M0 Planet-killer (not used in Terran Conflict)
M1 Carrier
M2 Destroyer
M3(+) Heavy fighter (Improved)
M4(+) Medium fighter (Improved)
M5 Scout
M6 Corvette
M7 Frigate
M7M Missile Frigate
M8 Bomber
TS Transport Small
TL Transport Large (can transport station kits)
TP Transport Personnel/Passenger
TM Transport Military (a small carrier ship)
OWP Orbital Weapons Platform
LT Laser Tower
NavSat Navigation Relay Satellite
AdvSat Advanced Satellite



Ship Variants

For smaller ships, most races have some variants of the basic ship types. Not all races have all variants available to buy at ship yards, and some don't even exist in a normal game.

Fighters can have up to four variants, typically having the following characteristics (though there is some variation so these rules do not always hold).

Raider Faster, less shielding and less cargo
Vanguard Faster, sometimes less shielding, sometimes better weapons
Hauler Slower, more cargo space
Sentinel Slower, more shielding, sometimes less cargo space


Small freighters may also have variants, again depending on race and again with not all variants being available for all ships.

Hauler Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Miner Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Tanker Slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Tanker XL Even slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Super-freighter Even slower, more shielding, more cargo space
Super-freighter XL Even slower again, even more shielding, even more cargo space


Certain ships also come in 'heavy, 'prototype', 'advanced' or 'enhanced' variants - this usually indicates an upgraded version of the basic ship.

Imagine memorizing them all in german because you've played it as a kid in your main language and then rememorizing the english names when you get older...
Atleast the weapons were added per game so you could learn them step by step.

[Cyron43]

Can we please stay on topic?

[Gween]

Can we please stay on topic?

The list is kinda important to discuss "most" gameplay related topics in this forum

But you're right, well, we can just hope that egosoft adds some mission diversity with later Updates/DLCs. (Since I don't even get proper assassination missions in X4 and I've already saved like 200 weddings by shooting the ring of some Hauler without the means to defend itself.

[Cyron43]

Here is another specialized ship from Star Citizen, the Aegis reclaimer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg1LOZskar4
Wouldn't it be great if we could salvage all those wrecks between the asteroids in X4?