Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green - Fixed in 2.50 beta

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Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green - Fixed in 2.50 beta

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Recently bought Teladi trade offer subscription license, and then I saw this:
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I presume this issue with excessive building was already looked after?
I am trying to take care of Xenon excessive building, so I placed patrols and defense platforms on all entrances to Xenon sectors, but this is another story :o :o
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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This was an issue in the betas leading up to 2.0. Did you start your game back then?

I started my current game around 1.8 Beta, and have the exact same problem in SPG. However, I don't think they're doing this anymore in the updates since then.
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ei8htx wrote: Wed, 27. Mar 19, 22:26 This was an issue in the betas leading up to 2.0. Did you start your game back then?

I started my current game around 1.8 Beta, and have the exact same problem in SPG. However, I don't think they're doing this anymore in the updates since then.
I started with this game from 2.0 release (not beta).
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Yikes. Looks like they really, really require more Vespene gas...
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radcapricorn wrote: Wed, 27. Mar 19, 23:08 Yikes. Looks like they really, really require more Vespene gas...
Wow. Flashbacks.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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I'm seeing the same in 2.20, Vanilla.
Not as excessive, but i bet there's some xenon sector with 2 digit (completed) stations too by now.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Looks like many of them are in a bugged state? empty health bar yet not removed.

Honestly that entire sector is a mess the way it is laid out. The behaviour to weapon platform the gate does not work well seeing how the Shipyard is right by the gate. The Shipyard should either be moved to nearby the Warf giving space for a defensive blockade, or the Teladi should build the defence platforms in Company Regard on that side of the gate.
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Makes me think about X3. The Antigone Memorial sector in which I had a station attracted so many Teladi M5 fighters (in the thousands), the sector became unusable because of het terrible FPS lag. Entering the sector effectively freezed (but not crashed) the game. I hope x4 doesn't have this "feature".
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Feel free to host the savegame somewhere or send it to owen@egosoft.com

A number of issues leading to this were fixed previously, but there's obviously still a case where it happens. Unfortunatly, it seems the savegames I've looked at are past the state where new stations are built, which is what I would like to catch.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Thu, 28. Mar 19, 11:37 Feel free to host the savegame somewhere or send it to owen@egosoft.com

A number of issues leading to this were fixed previously, but there's obviously still a case where it happens. Unfortunatly, it seems the savegames I've looked at are past the state where new stations are built, which is what I would like to catch.
Thanks, here is the save game https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zT_TI5 ... sp=sharing
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Thu, 28. Mar 19, 11:37 Feel free to host the savegame somewhere or send it to owen@egosoft.com

A number of issues leading to this were fixed previously, but there's obviously still a case where it happens. Unfortunatly, it seems the savegames I've looked at are past the state where new stations are built, which is what I would like to catch.
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Sidenote: with those enormous Terabyte disks we all own in the meantime, wouldn't it be possible to provide an in-game mechanism of saving more than just the last 10 games if the player agrees to that. In that case we could provide you with older savegames in cases like this.

I would happily reserve another 100GB disk space for the game if that would give me the opportunity to better support bugfixing.

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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Think I found it. Should be fixed in the next build and excess defence stations should be removed on loading the savegame. Thanks for the saves and info everyone.
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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Mon, 8. Apr 19, 17:31 Think I found it. Should be fixed in the next build and excess defence stations should be removed on loading the savegame. Thanks for the saves and info everyone.
Seems like there's an insane load of fixes coming in the next build! Surely look forward to it.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Mon, 8. Apr 19, 17:31 Think I found it. Should be fixed in the next build and excess defence stations should be removed on loading the savegame. Thanks for the saves and info everyone.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Actually I found out what was going on there. I had the same issue with hop in faulty logic. When a faction try to invade an enemy sector they want to build 2 defenses stations. If their builders got destroyed and they never achieve to build them or one of them, after a certain time they will try to build a new one ... and so on. Then you end up with a colony of unfinished station.

The particularity of the south east teladi front is ... they manage to build and finish them and they build in my game 74 STATIONS! I SAY AGAIN 74...

Hilarious

I want to go a little bit out of topic by adding an issue I have in my game:
Once a faction take over a system... let’s say HOP is owning faulty logic, they NEVER expand their ecenonu there. They will just keep the defenses stations they have but they will never mine or build other stations in there. I have same issue where I cleared PAR and let HOP claim pious must II. It seems the game is very limited on that aspect which is sad...
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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I found out through tests with the Mod Rise of the Ossian Raider that the Argons, when attacked, will only send construction ships.

The help call function after reinforcement has also failed so that the sector defense is no longer supported and freighters and stations no longer helps.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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The screenshot from OP is amazing:

Argons visiting that sector: - why?
Local Teladi: - we need to be sure.
Local Xenon: 0101010101...... WTF is this????
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Xenon_Slayer wrote: Mon, 8. Apr 19, 17:31 Think I found it. Should be fixed in the next build and excess defence stations should be removed on loading the savegame. Thanks for the saves and info everyone.
Would it be possible to make the factions remove these derelict stations?
When this happens in several sectors xenon are nearly blocked from the game. Might be an issue in normal race space as well, though i haven't encountered that.
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, I think you need to read the post you quoted a little more carefully. :)
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Re: Teladi spamming 50 stations in Scale Plate Green

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CBJ wrote: Fri, 12. Apr 19, 20:46 Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, I think you need to read the post you quoted a little more carefully. :)
Ow that post was only 4 days old - thought it's from before last patch. I see what you mean now, sweet!!
Finally i can see some action soon, thanks!

edit.. and good point, let's blame the ET image :D

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