[BUG][1.50] Unable to Claim System

[Tristavius]

Decided yesterday that I had the spare resources to finally claim a system - in this case Nopileo's Fortune VI where my main factory is located.

I constructed a second station including an Administration Center but the system ownership did not change. I then came on the forums and noted some people saying you had to build the Admin center first before any other module.

I went back and deconstructed much of the original plot including its Admin center and started Plot #3, placing the admin center first. Still no luck.

Points of Note:

* Admin center was built first on the newest Plot #3 station
* Previous Plot #2 admin station built in wrong order was deconstructed down to it's dock first
* New center also subsequently had docks & accommodation built and a station manager assigned, in case those were necessary
* Map is explored very, very far out and only one other station exists (a SCA drugs plant). This contains no admin complex. System remains neutral colors.
* My Plot #1 factory is the only other thing in the system, and has no admin complex

If I can be bothered risking the money I may try claiming another neutral system later. Is it possible perhaps my first attempt which didn't work is now blocking further attempts to claim it from also working?

Either way: Bug.

[Loneshade]

Same problem - building an Administrative Center in a station with nothing else but docks and a bit of structure doesn't claim the sector.
Are there any additional requirements we don't know about?

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

May be a duplicate - see this other thread.

[Tristavius]

Yes and no. Other thread is a very similar issue but relates to being unable to claim a system if you mess around with a design during the construction phase.

My issue is being unable to claim a system full stop, despite jumping through the various 'hoops' people have reported.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

Yes and no. Other thread is a very similar issue but relates to being unable to claim a system if you mess around with a design during the construction phase.

My issue is being unable to claim a system full stop, despite jumping through the various 'hoops' people have reported.

Works fine for me other than the build plan changing malarky - assuming the sector (not system) is already "unclaimed" that is. If you control ALL sectors in a system then the entire system will be owned by you.

In my game there are a total of 6 unclaimed sectors over 2 unclaimed systems and 2 contested/partially claimed systems.

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1. Heretics End (1 sector/system)
2. Nopileos Fortune (2 sectors/1 system)
3. Silent Witness (2 of 3 sectors/1 system - Argon Federation own one sector)
4. Hewa's Twin (1 of 5 sectors/1 system - Teladi Company own the other 4 sectors)

My minimum system claim station build plan (Estimate of <10M credits in build materials) consists of:-

1. Argon Administration Centre
2. Luxury 6S+3M Dock
3. Argon E Pier
4. 2 x Argon Bridge Defence Modules (either side of the Dock)

System claiming happens at the point of the Dock being created (I think) and I am not sure if the defence platforms are required as part of the plan for the claiming to work.

A key point is that the initial plan for a plot MUST have the Administration centre in it - if you add it later as part of an existing plot it will not work.

If you are finding that after the Administration center (+Dock?) is created that the system is not being claimed then adding a new plot (including a second administration centre) may work around the issue.

I have now claimed all the unclaimed sectors in my game - but the claiming station has always been the first player station built/plotted in those sectors. In the cases where the initial plan was not changed, it was the only player station plot in that system at the time too.

[ApoxNM]

Same problem - building an Administrative Center in a station with nothing else but docks and a bit of structure doesn't claim the sector.
Are there any additional requirements we don't know about?

The onlything that is important is to place the Admin Center first, then the dock.
When the station is build, the sector is yours.

I just claimed napoleons fortune, so it's working.

[euclid]

Happy 2019

Works fine for me with a basic 1-pier, 3M6S dock, an admin module and loads of defense modules (conquering Xenon systems). However, I always build at least two of those "fortress" and the only time I had trouble claiming the system was due to a "hidden" Xenon defense platform deep down at the very edge of the map. After destroying that the system was mine

Cheers Euclid

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

This may be a PBCAK, not sure if the OP is fully aware of the mechanics.

A system consists of one or more sectors (Nopileos Fortune contains 2 sectors).

When you claim a sector in a multi-sector system only the sector claimed will change ownership (sector inner boundary colour changes). In such a case, only when you own ALL the sectors in that system (Nopileos Fortune has 2 sectors) will the entire system change colour (solid system outer boundary colour). While a multi-sector system is not under control by a single faction then the system boundary colour will remain unclaimed/contested colour (grey/white).

Single sector systems such as Heretics End are easier to see whether the claim system is working or not.

[Tristavius]

Thanks for the feedback guys, but I still think I have met all the requirements.

The SECTOR is Nopileo's Fortune VI - I understand that will not claim the whole system, it's only the sector I'm aiming for.

My first attempt at building a station did not have the Admin center first, which I since learnt is a requirement. This station #1 was dismantled down to its dock.

The second attempt placed the Admin center first and afterwards added a Pier, 2 Docks, A Container Store and a Small habitat. This station #2 did not claim the sector. I also tweaked it's position last night and forced a rebuild, still nothing.

This morning I have built a station #3, again with administration first, while keeping #2 in place. Still nothing.

Sector is explored really, really, really far out and there's still only 1 SCA drugs plant which has no admin module etc.

The only thing suggested above I haven't tried relates to Defenses - I will try adding a defense module and some weaponry later and report back.