performance isseus 1.5

[Bobzillah]

how can i upload my save to egosoft ? cause something is definitly wrong here ,from seeing multi cores/threads working after 25-30 seconds the game freezes and its all single core/thread again for 20-40 seconds just nothing and then suddenly its multithreading again and the game just goes on like nothing happend and this is not one time this is for the last 5hours now .
i know 1.0 the saving the game had same isseu and they fixed that . i can now get into logical overview again of my mega station wich is good but that builder also stil laggs the shit out if i want to go bigger .
the strange things aswell is when it goes into single thread performance it will hop around the threads just not sharing its load like when the game does run you can see multiple threads working for the game .dont know what aspect of the game now is so freaking messed up but it had become unplayable for me , i like to share my save with devs so they can maybe see better what i mean . i have second screen with taskmanager open so i can check performance without needing to alt-tab.

ryzen 5 1600x stabile clocked to 4.0ghz
2x8 gb set to 3000mhz
gtx 1060 6gb

dont think the specs shut matter at all since 1.35 runned smoothly and that version only went into single thread cause of my mega station when the game finished building 1module and had to think about what module next to build ,after i figgered that out i wrecked all that needed to be build so i could play my game atleast .i could not go into logical overview then it would just remove the map so 1.5 did improve something but also broke alot more..

anyway you devs can put 1.35 in the steam beta as an option so i can go back and play the game again or what am over 270hours into my (single Game) not restarted once (its the 1thing i do love about these update i can keep my progress)
unshure what in the x4 engine is broken but it needs fixing this is such strange behaviour iam seeing in my task manager.

since i was already logged in to get the bonus paints from pre-ordering it also automaticly stuck me in the beta mode for 1.5 for that online thing . ive got all those yyellow ships going around if i put no with names it shows 100 . but ive just also put no behind bring no ships to my game cause maybe thats whats doing the funky dont know . how ever i dont know how to get rid of the beta now since it went auto . maybe getting rid of that can fix my game again so i can play instead of watching my game freeze every half minute. but stil think its probely the station building .

couple hours later i found out it is stil the building that goes from multi core to single core . when a module is done building and it tries to figger out wich one next .it cannot handle it . now offcourse iam not building to be pretty what i try to build is alot but sooner or later alot of people will have problems cause they wil have earned enough credits to make bigger stations and then they gona run into this problem . now what have i been doing the last 3hours trying to remove planning for my wall station (ment to block a gate incase i take the region and someone gona invade me) with constant freezing and hard time in building mode on its own thats its just to much aswell but i got it done and my game atm does not freeze compleetly all the time so yeah please see how or what . find it strange the a multi core procces can go single just like that unshure how your game engine is made cause normally i would say its eithe single core or multi core what a game does and not swap around during the gameplay .

[Nico07091980]

I have the same problem.

[CBJ]

Trying to analyse the threading using external tools isn't going to give you useful answers, and it certainly isn't going to give us any clues as to why you are having problems. If, instead of trying to second-guess what is happening, you were to post in Tech Support, with the information requested at the top of that forum, including system specifications and a savegame that can be used to reproduce the situation where you are having problems, then maybe we can take a look at what is really happening.

Taking a wild guess, however, without any of the necessary data, I'd guess that you have run into the NVIDIA sound device problem. If you try disabling the sound device on your NVIDIA graphics card, and making sure that your on-board sound device (probably Realtek) has the most up to date drivers, you may find that the problem is reduced.

Regarding the lack of names on Visitor ships, just go into the settings and enable the option to show visitor names.

And Nico07091980, we are really not going to be able to help you in any way if all you post is essentially just "me too". Make your own post in Tech Support with the required information and a proper, detailed description of exactly what problems you are having.

[Bobzillah]

so i like to know what triggers it so i can avoid breaking my harddrives .

had it 2 times already its hard to reproduce cause i think something in the game triggers it . besides my 16gb ive also got extra located trew windows on 2 drives and well fff me cause those spin up like crazy and freeze my entire system to shit . just read the other comments and saying if you cannot replicate it its fine. sorry but no its not fine. it does not happen to 1 person and it does not happen just once .

19-12 .: https://imgur.com/CwWd1bW

22-12.: https://imgur.com/guNBYkL

beside the point that there engine also can do crazy stuff with the cpu like when you build a to big station each time a module finishes and it needs to think what to build next it goes from multithreading to single thread performance (wich is easy to reproduce) in both cases something very wrong. maybe more wrong in my eyes since i dont know how bad this was for my drives but i know it cannot be good. (and with big station i mean try to use the max plot and at 10-15 % use of it you gona get in trouble) (gona keep raising this point aswell until adressed)

o and my system is .:

amd ryzen 5 1600x stabile clock to 4.0ghz

2 x 8 gb 3000mhz

gtx 1060 6gb

asus hero VI

windows 10

and auto virtual memory no idea how far it used something up.

[DeFragMe]

i mean.. i didnt notice any kind of memory issue on my game so far, but i also never really checked... and so i found a goal to do tonight (i mean i sometimes have the game running for 8-10 h straight, with alot of seta, and have no problem usually)

[DeFragMe]

i think the gist of it is : it Eats alot of memory and does not empty the memory it does not need anymore. And the fact that some processes are done singel thread, not mutlithread, and causing the game to slow down.

but dont count on my translation.

[Bobzillah]

no not eats alot of memory , from 8-9 gb it suddenly spike over the 16gb and eats my virtual memory cause my pc to go crazy maxing my harddrive out with writing and reading i geuss.

and yes some procces singel thread ,its the building process can it can be reproduced over and over ,its also the only reason why i have more then 1 stations in the game .
like the rest goes well its just poof en shit goes bezerk . iver got over 330 hours into 1gameplay already around 11bil net worth so am having fun but its getting a bit more common with the bug and engine failures.

[Kamuchi_]

I think the best way to get some one to look at it is to post in the tech forum with a save and all the details so they can have a look at it: viewtopic.php?f=180&t=402324
All I can say is that besides some stutters every once in awhile, the game runs fine while playing a few to 12 hours in sessions with memory going between 4.5 and 6gb from what I've seen on my pc, with or withough mods.

Good luck

[Kamuchi_]

I don't have a problem. I just want to help egosoft to focus. But I don't want to work for it becaus I payed for it. Maybe I try the game after the next patch. My engagement for the X series is gone since after Albion Prelude. The only thing X3 made wrong was collision of big ships and that there was now crew in vanilla. Now we have a new mess and I'm tired. Wait for another one to answer your calls. My community bubble is full of posts and videos about the same issue. It's just a matter of time till egosoft will fix the problem. I have time.

Wouldn't call providing a save and dxdiag "working for it" and would only speed up for them to find the actual problem, cause if everyone thinks like that it will never get fixed.

[Bobzillah]

i mean.. i didnt notice any kind of memory issue on my game so far, but i also never really checked... and so i found a goal to do tonight (i mean i sometimes have the game running for 8-10 h straight, with alot of seta, and have no problem usually)

unshure how to replicate the mem problem cause its not like its slowly creeping up its just bam lets go nuts within a second .thats why i think something is trigging this since am also not the only one who has had this problem . cause when it happened the first time after reboot i just kept on playing and it didnt happen and am now a few bil further and about 200ships more and it happened again and well havent started again yet gona see to get all that virtual memeory removed cause i prefer my game to crash then my harddrives to get wrecked. but most likely i wil just be able to play for hours again until something triggers it . saw other post about vulkan and dx12 but havent really be reading about the 2 so i kind say whats what .

[DeFragMe]

i mean.. i didnt notice any kind of memory issue on my game so far, but i also never really checked... and so i found a goal to do tonight (i mean i sometimes have the game running for 8-10 h straight, with alot of seta, and have no problem usually)

unshure how to replicate the mem problem cause its not like its slowly creeping up its just bam lets go nuts within a second .thats why i think something is trigging this since am also not the only one who has had this problem . cause when it happened the first time after reboot i just kept on playing and it didnt happen and am now a few bil further and about 200ships more and it happened again and well havent started again yet gona see to get all that virtual memeory removed cause i prefer my game to crash then my harddrives to get wrecked. but most likely i wil just be able to play for hours again until something triggers it . saw other post about vulkan and dx12 but havent really be reading about the 2 so i kind say whats what .

the onlyst part where I at least know my RAM keeps kicking up (also der VRAM) is when i open the first time the Map. i usually notice that because i tab out of my game quite often (playing in fullscreenwindow on max setting)

[Alan Phipps]

Threads merged and irrelevancies removed.

[Bobzillah]

Trying to analyse the threading using external tools isn't going to give you useful answers, and it certainly isn't going to give us any clues as to why you are having problems. If, instead of trying to second-guess what is happening, you were to post in Tech Support, with the information requested at the top of that forum, including system specifications and a savegame that can be used to reproduce the situation where you are having problems, then maybe we can take a look at what is really happening.

Taking a wild guess, however, without any of the necessary data, I'd guess that you have run into the NVIDIA sound device problem. If you try disabling the sound device on your NVIDIA graphics card, and making sure that your on-board sound device (probably Realtek) has the most up to date drivers, you may find that the problem is reduced.

Regarding the lack of names on Visitor ships, just go into the settings and enable the option to show visitor names.

And Nico07091980, we are really not going to be able to help you in any way if all you post is essentially just "me too". Make your own post in Tech Support with the required information and a proper, detailed description of exactly what problems you are having.

so each time a module is finished building the game freezes . THATS NOT A GEUSS ... looking on my second screen and seeing that instead of all cores/threads being used then its only 1 IS NOT A GEUSS and is USEFULL ....
i also asked how to upload a savegame so just saying do it .......
and it can be replicated very easy dont even need the save game ,just make youre 10x10x10x10x10x10 plot and go fill it up and see when you start building how it goes .

very sad to see you dont even read the simplest thing and just a standart shit respone i was expecting better. and yes all my drivers are up to date.

and for those ship names , if i put no ... that does say it was on yes and i know how to swap it . not shure if am just this bad with english writing or you with reading.

[Bobzillah]

another isseu not shure but now since i Disabled all virtual memory in windows and now iam unable to save a game ,game crash so i thought ok lets load and save straight after i get back in and game crashed again so then i though ok lets use a different savegame slot and oeps it crashed again , now i thought oo lets test if i enable virtual memory again and now i can save again .

so on 1hand i can say o simple problem fixed right ? well not aslong as the memory leak or what ever it is can stil happen since that can easily rune my harddrive . so for now iam very very sad over 330hours into 1gameplay and i most stop playing since i dont wana risk my harddrive but i do want to be able to save my games.. unshure what to go play now since i really addicted to x4 but for now ill go watch some tv and wait for next update in the hopes things are fixed and just stop playing

[CBJ]

I am not going to waste any more time on this thread if a) you are not going to provide the information requested at the top of this forum and b) you are just going to insult me when I do try and help. Your choice.

[Kamuchi_]

so each time a module is finished building the game freezes . THATS NOT A GEUSS ... looking on my second screen and seeing that instead of all cores/threads being used then its only 1 IS NOT A GEUSS and is USEFULL ....
i also asked how to upload a savegame so just saying do it .......
and it can be replicated very easy dont even need the save game ,just make youre 10x10x10x10x10x10 plot and go fill it up and see when you start building how it goes .

very sad to see you dont even read the simplest thing and just a standart shit respone i was expecting better. and yes all my drivers are up to date.

and for those ship names , if i put no ... that does say it was on yes and i know how to swap it . not shure if am just this bad with english writing or you with reading.

I can tell that the game does not lag by default when a module is built, game is perfectly fine building this monstrosity https://i.imgur.com/Ut983BT.png

Save files are located in: "Documents\Egosoft\X4\<number>\save"
Easiest is to do a manual save in a slot and that will generate "save_001.xml.gz" that you can upload to google, dropbox or any other upload site along with your dxdiag and vulkan info: https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence ... VulkanInfo

He's not giving you a shit response because he has to guess due to the lack of information, he could have easilly said nothing except "save&dxdiag".

[Bobzillah]

I am not going to waste any more time on this thread if a) you are not going to provide the information requested at the top of this forum and b) you are just going to insult me when I do try and help. Your choice.

really..... iam asking how to give a savefile.... jezuschrist so it is not me who cannot write its you unwilling to read.

[Bobzillah]

so each time a module is finished building the game freezes . THATS NOT A GEUSS ... looking on my second screen and seeing that instead of all cores/threads being used then its only 1 IS NOT A GEUSS and is USEFULL ....
i also asked how to upload a savegame so just saying do it .......
and it can be replicated very easy dont even need the save game ,just make youre 10x10x10x10x10x10 plot and go fill it up and see when you start building how it goes .

very sad to see you dont even read the simplest thing and just a standart shit respone i was expecting better. and yes all my drivers are up to date.

and for those ship names , if i put no ... that does say it was on yes and i know how to swap it . not shure if am just this bad with english writing or you with reading.

I can tell that the game does not lag by default when a module is built, game is perfectly fine building this monstrosity https://i.imgur.com/Ut983BT.png

Save files are located in: "Documents\Egosoft\X4\<number>\save"
Easiest is to do a manual save in a slot and that will generate "save_001.xml.gz" that you can upload to google, dropbox or any other upload site along with your dxdiag and vulkan info: https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence ... VulkanInfo

He's not giving you a shit response because he has to guess due to the lack of information, he could have easilly said nothing except "save&dxdiag".

if you call that a monstrosity you are far from it. cover the front with a wall of defense walls and the bottum with a wall of defense platforms and then start filiing it in with productions modules . so yeah when i build my main base with 50 productions modules and some connecters its all fine its when adding a few houndred defensse modules when shit start to hit the fan . unly then do i see it go to single threaded performance . and ty for answering my first and latest qeustion how to upload a savegame but as his response it aint needed anymore cause he unwilling to do anything anyways. and i can tell you alot more people gona face this problem once they making so much money beside having over 800 ships the only other thing is make a big ass fort at gates wich is gona make something suffer.

[Kamuchi_]

so each time a module is finished building the game freezes . THATS NOT A GEUSS ... looking on my second screen and seeing that instead of all cores/threads being used then its only 1 IS NOT A GEUSS and is USEFULL ....
i also asked how to upload a savegame so just saying do it .......
and it can be replicated very easy dont even need the save game ,just make youre 10x10x10x10x10x10 plot and go fill it up and see when you start building how it goes .

very sad to see you dont even read the simplest thing and just a standart shit respone i was expecting better. and yes all my drivers are up to date.

and for those ship names , if i put no ... that does say it was on yes and i know how to swap it . not shure if am just this bad with english writing or you with reading.

I can tell that the game does not lag by default when a module is built, game is perfectly fine building this monstrosity https://i.imgur.com/Ut983BT.png

Save files are located in: "Documents\Egosoft\X4\<number>\save"
Easiest is to do a manual save in a slot and that will generate "save_001.xml.gz" that you can upload to google, dropbox or any other upload site along with your dxdiag and vulkan info: https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence ... VulkanInfo

He's not giving you a shit response because he has to guess due to the lack of information, he could have easilly said nothing except "save&dxdiag".

if you call that a monstrosity you are far from it. cover the front with a wall of defense walls and the bottum with a wall of defense platforms and then start filiing it in with productions modules . so yeah when i build my main base with 50 productions modules and some connecters its all fine its when adding a few houndred defensse modules when shit start to hit the fan

Considering this is my second station and took a few hours in seta to pay for it and that it still isn't built after 1.5 day then for me it's a monstrosity for now untill I get to complex #2 and tripple the size if this doesn't create problems on my pc

[Bobzillah]

the station called main base (second station in the list) and the base at the bottum of the stations last called the Wall are the ones at construction .

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u4jdC ... ibEWAitIq3

took me a while to set it up but i think this shut work now and if the link dont work then lemme know what else i can do. anybody who test let me know what specs your pc is if you can run this 15mins without trouble ? and if you can and have a second screen look in taskmanager or what ever program you got that wil tell you how much of Each core/thread is being when it freezes ? (good way to also see it is when you got seta on and the blue light on the right side stops working wil take less then 15mins then)