Huge Bug! Why Xenon economy dies every game! You wont believe it!

[SpaceCadet11864]

I'm playing around with modding - and decided to make my self an ally and take a look inside a xenon wharf to see what its building.

So Xenon are supposed to only require energy cells, silicon, and ore for everything. So they only mine and make solar plants.

However, I'm looking at this xenon station,and it has a high demand for a lot of other things... which makes me curious..



Now when I go for building a xenon ship, it appears the xenon ship requires additional components that is not part of the xenon economy:

[ZombiePotatoSalad]

Now someone is going to ask you to make a mod that makes Xenon ships flyable.

[shinzah]

I'm playing around with modding - and decided to make my self an ally and take a look inside a xenon wharf to see what its building.

So Xenon are supposed to only require energy cells, silicon, and ore for everything. So they only mine and make solar plants.

However, I'm looking at this xenon station,and it has a high demand for a lot of other things... which makes me curious..



Now when I go for building a xenon ship, it appears the xenon ship requires additional components that is not part of the xenon economy:

I made a thread about this the other day, it's nice to have confirmation.

Hopefully it gets fixed...

[Tadas]

Huge Bug! Why Xenon economy dies every game! You wont believe it!

Reason number 3 will BLOW your mind! All doctors hate it.

[SpaceCadet11864]

LOL yes haha

[lancing99]

I think my single biggest frustration with Egosoft (aside from the history of releasing broken games at launch) is the lack of communication from the developer.

I am not saying they need to respond to every player but when they see a lot of people commenting about something or pointing something out it would be nice if they would try to address it.

What is going on in terms of the games economy? What about factional conflicts? Do they have a road map for fixes they can share with people? What is the end result supposed to look like?

At this point I am ready to move on when the next decent sci-fi game releases and much like X-Rebirth I unfortunately will probably not come back to the game again after.

[gschultz]

I think my single biggest frustration with Egosoft (aside from the history of releasing broken games at launch) is the lack of communication from the developer.

I am not saying they need to respond to every player but when they see a lot of people commenting about something or pointing something out it would be nice if they would try to address it.

What is going on in terms of the games economy? What about factional conflicts? Do they have a road map for fixes they can share with people? What is the end result supposed to look like?

At this point I am ready to move on when the next decent sci-fi game releases and much like X-Rebirth I unfortunately will probably not come back to the game again after.

i made a thread or two over on steam about the communication, and i was thoroughly trolled and called a troll myself. it makes me (a x vet of 2 decades) not want to continue being a customer. they dont allow or incite this sort of community........but their lack of communication gets people like me that ask for it trolled to no end. i feel like this is star citizen tonight.

[Kadatherion]

If it turns up to really be such an obvious oversight, it tells you a lot about how much they've tested their super duper dynamic wars, "factions will conquer things and everything will still keep its balance being always built from real resources". Honestly, there's no shred of sign they actually had any chance to confirm that pitch is actually really achievable for the game.

As I wrote elsewhere, I understand why it's the kind of thing you can't easily confirm and playtest before launch unless you are a major company or go the early access/public beta route, but before using it as one of the main pitches for selling your product you should at least have verified you are actually sure you can deliver it in the end. Personally, I care little, that was the last of the reasons why I chose to buy X4, but if it were the selling point for me, I'd be quite mad right now.

[Tadas]

We don't know that, it is very possible that they have made numbers only simulation of economy and it worked. It is likely that it will work in the game once bugs are gone or after some small adjustments. It is very hard to judge if economy works under their model, then there are production bugs.

[battou]

I'm playing around with modding - and decided to make my self an ally and take a look inside a xenon wharf to see what its building.

So Xenon are supposed to only require energy cells, silicon, and ore for everything. So they only mine and make solar plants.

However, I'm looking at this xenon station,and it has a high demand for a lot of other things... which makes me curious..



Now when I go for building a xenon ship, it appears the xenon ship requires additional components that is not part of the xenon economy:

Wow. Hope developers will see this and fix asap.

[lancing99]

I think my single biggest frustration with Egosoft (aside from the history of releasing broken games at launch) is the lack of communication from the developer.

I am not saying they need to respond to every player but when they see a lot of people commenting about something or pointing something out it would be nice if they would try to address it.

What is going on in terms of the games economy? What about factional conflicts? Do they have a road map for fixes they can share with people? What is the end result supposed to look like?

At this point I am ready to move on when the next decent sci-fi game releases and much like X-Rebirth I unfortunately will probably not come back to the game again after.

i made a thread or two over on steam about the communication, and i was thoroughly trolled and called a troll myself. it makes me (a x vet of 2 decades) not want to continue being a customer. they dont allow or incite this sort of community........but their lack of communication gets people like me that ask for it trolled to no end. i feel like this is star citizen tonight.

The whole online fanboy phenomenon is honestly a bit of a horror show, and definitely not limited to Egosoft's customers. I would not take it personally.

[Gideon_Prime]

Well, this is awkward ...

[Miravlix]

I don't get it, some guy made a picture and the picture is a huge bug??

There seem to be no testing on whatever the thing he has seen has any effect, it's just assumptions with no testing.

Great you may have seen something that visually looks wrong, but the presentation is creepy and weirdly extream reaction based on that little data, what next you are going to claim the earth is flat because you have seen it out the window?

[SpaceCadet11864]

I don't get it, some guy made a picture and the picture is a huge bug??

There seem to be no testing on whatever the thing he has seen has any effect, it's just assumptions with no testing.

Great you may have seen something that visually looks wrong, but the presentation is creepy and weirdly extream reaction based on that little data, what next you are going to claim the earth is flat because you have seen it out the window?

I played this on SETA for a couple hours, and their economy did not take a hit from resources, they just decided to stop building ships for some reason and then got invaded by ARG. While I do find it surprising their stations are buying (with a high demand, note the green colors) things they dont need, and that some of the weapons require parts they do not create, I am not surprised at all that the earth is flat.

[StoneLegionYT]

Wait to see what devs say. Sometimes looks might be misleading. Just because shows a bunch of items does not mean it will actually require them via the scripts.

[Kadatherion]

Wait to see what devs say. Sometimes looks might be misleading. Just because shows a bunch of items does not mean it will actually require them via the scripts.

QFT and +1 of course. This is all a big "what if". But if it turns out to really be, it's going to be pretty silly

[StoneLegionYT]

Wait to see what devs say. Sometimes looks might be misleading. Just because shows a bunch of items does not mean it will actually require them via the scripts.

QFT and +1 of course. This is all a big "what if". But if it turns out to really be, it's going to be pretty silly

yeah mistakes happen but at the same time might just be the illusion haha.

In a way I hope the bug exists because it means they can fix it and it's not a major issue with trying set everyone to war haha.

[Kadatherion]

I like though how, apparently, the Xenons seem to be meant to work in a way resembling a bit how the OCV worked in Litcube's Universe, with their simplified resource/logistics needs. If they worked, I'd feel right at home

[maderas]

It's interesting that the Xenon have a real economy (along with the Kha'ak if they weren't being camped by Xenon, I assume) yet some of their stations are apparently invulnerable and can't be killed. If you go with the latter option, you'd think they'd just spawn in Xenon invasions from off-map; it would make sense anyway since it seems like the Xenon probably control a vast swath of the galaxy. They've got the current map surrounded.

[TheShear]

Uhm question, while this is a pretty big thing you found and what could be the reason for the xenon issues ... why didn't you post it in the Technical Support Forum instead? You know the place where the Devs are more likely to look?