[1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

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Vilmu
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[1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by Vilmu »

Simply put, my L solid miners that work as subordinates for my PHQ don't fully unload their cargo to the station. With ever decreasing delivery amount.

https://i.imgur.com/PnHqH8O.jpg

27200 units free on the station.
One miner with 1884 units in cargo only unloads 6 ores.
Other miner with 1490 units only unloads 457 ores.

Tried clearing their cargo and resetting their orders and re-adding them as subordinates. First one or two unloads work fine, after which they start to unloading small amounts again, effectively starving my station of resources.
The station also has Silicone input with similar space for it, so they are automining both ore & silicon while subordinate.

edit: the Manager is 2 stars.
nalim27
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by nalim27 »

I'm only guiesing, but I think that manager simply want to have specific amount of resources - for example for 45 minutes of production. So he sent unload command for mining ship only for some small amount, that is currently missing.

Yep it is not too clever behavior, but it have some logic - for example he needs storage space for other resource.

One idea - please try to build another solid storage module and watch, what will happens.

P.S: You are lucky - I have manager with 0 level only - he never assign task to subordinated miners - they are floating in space many hours. He using trade ships only.
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Baldamundo
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by Baldamundo »

nalim27 wrote: Fri, 7. Dec 18, 19:27 I'm only guiesing, but I think that manager simply want to have specific amount of resources - for example for 45 minutes of production. So he sent unload command for mining ship only for some small amount, that is currently missing.

Yep it is not too clever behavior, but it have some logic - for example he needs storage space for other resource.

One idea - please try to build another solid storage module and watch, what will happens.

P.S: You are lucky - I have manager with 0 level only - he never assign task to subordinated miners - they are floating in space many hours. He using trade ships only.
This definitely isn't the issue. NPC traders are able to sell their wares to the station fine, and besides there is absolutely loads of free storage space. This has been driving me absolutely up the wall :evil:
Vilmu
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by Vilmu »

I'm not sure why they are doing it. One cycle is 240 ore (1x refined metals), total ore after the delivery in the screenshot is 55 + 6 + 457 = 518, that doesn't match the cycles (2.1583333 cycles worth of ore).
I found a band-aid solution:

Remove the miners from subordinate.
Block other factions from trading the minerals to the station.
Remove automatic pricing and set the price to max.
While the miners are in the same system, setup them to automine the wanted materials, with the wanted gathering jump distance.

My miners now, almost always, drop their full cargo to my PHQ. Occasionally they deliver to some other place that's also set at max price, but a large miner drops their price by a lot so it will be quite some time before they do it again.

This however does clutter the ship list, as the ships were nicely hidden away within the station subordinate list :(
GigaPhreak
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by GigaPhreak »

I, too, have noticed this. I've started so many new games that I haven't gotten very far in any of them. I'm not gonna give up on this game, so I guess I'll continue to do so as I am required. My last game has been going pretty well, but I actually have ignored the Player HQ Mission so far.

Anyway, finally got two L miners-one solid, one liquid-and had a station to assign them to and found out real quick I wasted those credits. I much prefer Medium miners in general, but needed to fill a large capacity for the station, then noticed a full L Miner was only dropping 1% of it's cargo. The gas miner never worked. It wouldn't drop anything and methane was the one thing I needed most, and it almost would never mine even with methane resource probes out. So I sold those back real quick.

I really hope they implement more of what was in X3 even if they're using XR's framework. I've played myself crazy with actual X3, and I'm ready for it's evolution into the awesome game it could be with a little considerate effort.
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adymex02
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by adymex02 »

:P hello i figured out there is no bug for unloading auto miners entire storage what you need to doo is to build drones at your station you know the drone are like slaves they doo stuff unloading and loading big ships and for build drones for your station phq or any station you own you need too select trade ofers of that station and there you well see what the station missing from their storage to runing well or at maximum capacity soo you look at buy offer of your station and there you well see drone components and smart chips and the number of fault of this wares now you pick a transporter or a ship with big ,,container storage,, from your fleet and you search on map this wares (materials) go buy all of them and return to your station dock open trade and ofer them to the station and voalaa now your station well auto build the drones go to info of the station and you well see now you hawe drones pay atention for big miners you need on the station to bee instalated one of the big docking module now when the miner is going too descarge his storage select external view or telleport on the miner and hit f2 twice for fre camera rotatate your camera with keyp butons to see the drones how are entering on your miner and unloading the material from miner very nice i hope that help bye
HelsBane
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Re: [1.3?] Subordinate miners not fully unloading.

Post by HelsBane »

One thing to also pay attention too is if you station has enough money in its account. I found out that the station has to "buy" the resources from the miners. No money is actually removed but if the station can only afford to buy 100 ore then that's all that will be removed from the miner and he will just float around outside the station. Not sure if that has anything to do with your problem but I don't see the station account in those images.

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