Can't complete build defense station mission. Please help!

[DollopOfCrazy]

Guys, I've been trying to complete a build defense station mission for a day or two now.

Here are the requirements for this one with comments on each:

• Plot size 2x3x6 km. <----- Done. Could this really mean it needs to be 4x6x12 km? Well any way I made it 4x6x12 (x,y,z) just to make sure.

• Requires 8 turrets. <----- I even have 12 pulse laser turrets mounted on two Argon S Container Storage units (the only storage unit I have access to right now).

• Container storage capacity of 10000. <----- I have 50000 storage capacity between the two storage units, because I needed 8 (or more I assume) turret mount points.

The mission is still stuck at the build station step and gives no indication of it considers missing.

Right now the station is as simple as I can make it with only a dock and two storage units. I do get a warning that the station needs a "pier". Is the pier the connector which allows multiple docks? The instructions don't say that's required. The game let me build the station without the pier.

Surely it doesn't require you to have exactly 8 turrets and exactly 10000 container storage and no more. Not sure how I would get just 10000 container storage.

I'm going to go drop 8 Laser Towers to see if that's what they mean be turrets. Surely not, but I have no better idea at the moment.

Any ideas what I'm missing or getting wrong?

[TorZar]

+1 same issue.

manager hired (just in case)
Plenty big plot
1x dock
2x bridge defence
22x turrets
25k storage

Stuck on stage 3 "build: build defense station"

[pref]

Pier is the capship dock module.
My guess is you have an M/S dock only hence a mission objective is not met.

[TorZar]

Pier is the capship dock module.
My guess is you have an M/S dock only hence a mission objective is not met.

Did you actually complete the mission by doing this or assuming? We could try that of course, like we've guessed on most things. But we have the precisely specified items for the mission and that's extra wasted $ if not. Its recieved energy and turret components so is there really a need for a capital ship to dock at a defense station? I guess we could build an entire living community with every possible module until it works.

[DollopOfCrazy]

Pier is the capship dock module.
My guess is you have an M/S dock only hence a mission objective is not met.

The dock is not mentioned at all in mine. Of course, I put one in though. Hopefully someone who gotten things to work will give us a pointer.

[DollopOfCrazy]

The normal announcements at my defense station called it a factory even though there's no production modules. That go me to think the question what makes a defense platform/station what it is. I'm going to add a module with defense in it's name and see of that makes my station a defense platform.

No wait, TorZar said they added a bridge defense module and it didn't help.

I like this game, but unclear stuff like this is frustrating!

[sangnz]

I had the same issue and I made the asssumption that there is a way to change the plot type which defaults to factory to defense like you can see on the NPC ones but I as of yet have no figured out how to do this.

[Alandauron]

Has everyone in here verified that the turrets are actually being built?

What I have noticed, having the same issue btw, is that when I initially setup the entire build it shows the required resources to include the turret parts but when I go back in to check on the build progress after it starts on the section that will include the turrets those resources are no longer showing up as required and if I try to edit the module it shows an X next to the turrets.

It seems to me it's a matter of the turrets not building from my personal experience and I'm trying to confirm this with others then will submit a bug report.

Questions for those that have successfully completed one of these missions:

1. Did you build the modules one at a time or everything at once?

2. Did you put the turrets on from the start or wait until after everything else was finished and then add them?

3. Do your turrets show up on the module if you fly to it or does it appear that no turrets are there?

[memtha]

I was having this issue on 1.20, but I did not yet know this forum existed, so I posted on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/X4Foundations/ ... racts_bug/

I did get it to work once, by staying physically present in the objective guidance sphere during the entire construction process (onboard the mammoth bridge). After that, the 1.21 patch broke my game completely, so I cannot verify if it works consistently. Also in this one case that I got it to work, the container storage capacity requirement was 50k, so I hit it exactly, as opposed to my other attempts wherein the requirements were like 40k so I could not match them exactly as all container storage modules hold a multiple of 25k. Either of these factors could be the real reason for this (as of yet) isolated success. Hope this helps someone who can still play

Edit to respond to @Alandauron 's questions:

1: All at once (though it appears that they are queued, so the mammoth builds them one at a time anyway).
2: From the start, on one of the container modules. (My mission was 5x turrets and 50k storage)
3: Good question, I do not know, did not think to check when it worked, and cannot check now.

Along the line of thought of 3, I remember approaching a xenon station, and seeing the turrets deploy from beneath the surface, so perhaps you're not seeing them because there's nothing for them to shoot at?

[Alandauron]

I'm trying my best to document this to see if it is fixed in 1.3 beta or if it only works under specific conditions. Thank you @memtha for telling me how you got it to work as I was able to replicate that(staying nearby and monitoring the entire time). I have finished one mission by doing this:

1. Restarting from a save prior to doing any base construction missions
2. Doing all the resource movement myself, with my own ships
3. I wasn't present when the base first started but returned before the first module was complete and stayed the remainder of the time
4. Making sure resources are present prior to construction on all except the first module

I took a series of Screen Shots which I uploaded to Imgur, feel free to take a look here.

Next I will be trying by allowing the AI to do all the trading while waiting at the building area and then I will be trying without being anywhere near the station after initially setting up the plot.

[lyfesgrafiq]

I believe I had the same experience... and I just moved the whole build a little so that they rebuilt it and that completed it for me. Doesn't cost extra money, just the rebuild time for the slight relocation. Sorry if this doesn't work for you, I can't quite remember all the steps I took, but I googled and found various solutions via reddit/steam. Hope that helps.

[Alandauron]

I believe I had the same experience... and I just moved the whole build a little so that they rebuilt it and that completed it for me. Doesn't cost extra money, just the rebuild time for the slight relocation. Sorry if this doesn't work for you, I can't quite remember all the steps I took, but I googled and found various solutions via reddit/steam. Hope that helps.

I'm just trying to see what breaks it along the way so that the devs can resolve the issues with station building so others don't have to resort to "hackery" in order to fix broken builds. Thanks for the input though it does help the process.

[lyfesgrafiq]

I believe I had the same experience... and I just moved the whole build a little so that they rebuilt it and that completed it for me. Doesn't cost extra money, just the rebuild time for the slight relocation. Sorry if this doesn't work for you, I can't quite remember all the steps I took, but I googled and found various solutions via reddit/steam. Hope that helps.

I'm just trying to see what breaks it along the way so that the devs can resolve the issues with station building so others don't have to resort to "hackery" in order to fix broken builds. Thanks for the input though it does help the process.

Yeah I understand that, and I wasn't feeling the "hackaliciousness" of it... I just understand the level of frustration some may have. It definitely made me take a break (rage quit)

[pref]

Did you actually complete the mission by doing this or assuming? We could try that of course, like we've guessed on most things. But we have the precisely specified items for the mission and that's extra wasted $ if not. Its recieved energy and turret components so is there really a need for a capital ship to dock at a defense station? I guess we could build an entire living community with every possible module until it works.

OP said this: I do get a warning that the station needs a "pier".
If the mission says that then you have to build a capship dock.
And yes, just an assumption.

[ac1dburn_be]

I succesfully completed multiple of these missions by being present (just in a scout ship) when the final needed module was build.
Tried not being there and that mission was not completed.
Seems like you just need to be there when it finishes building.
Should you fail to be there, as mentioned here, the easiest fix is to "move" the station a little and have it rebuild, this helped me complete the first one.

Extra info, I flew to the objecitve to buy the plot and then started construction with auto-buy and a hired construction ship, went to a second location and started that up then flew back to each to "watch" the final module being build.

fyi this was with the 1.2 build haven't yet tried since.

Hope it helps.

[Alandauron]

Phase 2:

1. Started a station build mission from scratch
2. Remained at the build area almost the entire time
3. Used funds only and not my own fleet in order to gather supplies for the build
4. Did the entire build setup at the start with turrets added prior to confirming
5. Just like the first time I am "hiring" a Construction Vessel and not using my own
6. I had to "travel" just a bit because one particular ship doing deliveries seemed to be stuck, all the others had come and gone, so I know going through gates sometimes fixes stuck AI ships

SUCCESS!!

So far it seems as long as you stay at the build site during each of the important steps the missions will succeed. Once again I am in 1.30 BETA 2.

Some things to note:

1. Waiting for the AI to gather all the supplies takes significantly longer than doing it yourself. This could simply be intended or due to bad pathing currently but just something worth noting.

2. One of the ships assigned to bring supplies was an Energy Freighter, this ship moved EXTREMELY slow. Even once on screen it took the ship over 10 minutes just to get from the edge of vision on an advanced satellite to the middle where the build area was. Not sure if this is due to a bad pilot or due to some issue that occurs only when the player is involved and an AI is bringing them supplies. I didn't notice any other ship moving this slow the entire time, they would speed up periodically from my observations, even other Freighters.

All in all this is an acceptable amount of time if the player doesn't need to be present at the station for the entirety of construction. That will be my next test! Go to the location to buy the plot then remain away the rest of the time.

[Alandauron]

I succesfully completed multiple of these missions by being present (just in a scout ship) when the final needed module was build.
Tried not being there and that mission was not completed.
Seems like you just need to be there when it finishes building.
Should you fail to be there, as mentioned here, the easiest fix is to "move" the station a little and have it rebuild, this helped me complete the first one.

Extra info, I flew to the objecitve to buy the plot and then started construction with auto-buy and a hired construction ship, went to a second location and started that up then flew back to each to "watch" the final module being build.

fyi this was with the 1.2 build haven't yet tried since.

Hope it helps.

Thanks, and yea that's what it's starting to look like to me as well. You need to be present for the major events, though that didn't work for me on 1.21 hotfix when I was first trying to do one of these missions. Just sharing my findings as I'm able to get each "test" completed so we can see exactly where the hang up is.

[Alandauron]

Ok, so I think I have figured out the problem. It looks as if, due to something I pointed out initially, you cannot add turrets to existing modules currently. It will show the required materials before you confirm the changes but even if you go in right after those material requirements will be removed. If you are using a "rented" construction ship they won't order those materials for the turrets since those materials are removed from the requirements so quickly. I will follow up with a longer post later but I'm about 99% certain this is the case.

[Alandauron]

I did a bug report for the turret issue after a bit more testing, if anyone is interested here it is:
viewtopic.php?f=180&t=406038

[dranck]

Just had the same issue. Removed the 2 storage modules and re built them. Then re-added turrets. Made sure I was in the area when the build completed. Still didn't complete BUT then I checked the loadout under information on the station and saw only 8 turrets (I needed 10)! Oops. Added the missing turrets and it completed.