Will we be seeing a patch to keep us busy before Christmas?

[spankahontis]

I've kind of lost interest in playing X Games at the moment, but I still frequent the page to see if there is any new developments?

Will we be seeing a Patch to keep us occupied at the least during Late November/December period?

[Kadanz]

most likely no, I don't think we'll see a patch any time soon for this game. But then again, I don't have insider knowledge.

[CommanderTM]

I saw linolafett said in reddit that they are really busy and we will hear something soon in response to someones comment.

But you know, that soon could be whenever...

Found the comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/XRebirth/comme ... l/d9gmecu/

[Nikola515]

For what i have seen so far XR is most likely abandoned.... It's been over half of years and still not any fixes for critical DLC'S buggs.... Such as new cap ships behavior where they run after hand full of shots making them completely useless and broken in game. If it wasn't bad enough that AI is r******* to begin with

Anyway they are probably spending all there time on new title. There is no point working on game that only hand full of people are playing

[CommanderTM]

Anyway they are probably spending all there time on new title. There is no point working on game that only hand full of people are playing

Sad truth. I wonder though... arent any billionares hardcore fans of gaming? I mean, if i had that kind of money, i would surely hire a team to build my dream game Or maybe they hog the game and not release it publicly

Imagine a game that is not restricted by the need to please the biggest crowd possible. And not restricted by money. But, theres also the thing that... non-devs rarely know the difference of good in paper and good in reality.

[birdtable]

One thing is for sure ...Egosoft has seen how big the marketplace could be as compared with Terran Conflict release days... Secondly ...how bad the backlash could be by judging the marketplace incorrectly.
I do believe XRebirth was a hodge-podge of time, finances, markets, direction and false assumptions ..... I doubt if that will be repeated.

[RAVEN.myst]

non-devs rarely know the difference of good in paper and good in reality.

+1 (Sadly, though, sometimes devs also can't make that distinction - quite often, in fact, if we look at the gaming industry as a whole and see just how much rubbish is out there that was professionally developed and published, some of it by top-profile giants in the industry.)

[spankahontis]

I saw linolafett said in reddit that they are really busy and we will hear something soon in response to someones comment.

But you know, that soon could be whenever...

Found the comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/XRebirth/comme ... l/d9gmecu/

Thanks i'll give that a read.

He is kind of overlaying the build up a tad thick there. Not that i'm complaining.

For what i have seen so far XR is most likely abandoned.... It's been over half of years and still not any fixes for critical DLC'S buggs.... Such as new cap ships behavior where they run after hand full of shots making them completely useless and broken in game. If it wasn't bad enough that AI is r******* to begin with

Anyway they are probably spending all there time on new title. There is no point working on game that only hand full of people are playing

The next X Title will be an improvement on Rebirth's Engine.
So they could offer/graft fixes on it that don't break the savegame while working on their new game.

It's more than just a handful from data someone posted in here a month or so ago, it was more than TC on average.

[Nikola515]

As long as they improve UI and AI i would be happy when it comes to next title. Even XR would have been much better game if it had better AI.
If we get some new update for XR it will be some small fixes and nothing major.
Anyway i wonder how did sales go with their last DLC? Perhaps that might be the reason why they stopped updating XR ?

[RAVEN.myst]

It's more than just a handful from data someone posted in here a month or so ago, it was more than TC on average.

<Quote corrected. AP>

Comparisons with TC are not valid, as many people play Steam-free, and thus those stats don't get counted in. As it is impossible to even estimate (other than by total thumbsuck) how many players this might be, that renders the comparison meaningless - all we can say for sure is that there are more people playing TC than the Steam analytics indicate, but not by how much. Hell, some people even play AP Steam-free (I know I do - I disconnect myself from Steam whenever at all possible!), so even those stats are a poor indication - and I'm guessing that more people play AP than TC, so if Rebirth playerbase is "more than TC on average" (which sounds marginal to begin with) based only on available metered data, then AP is probably beating Rebirth hands-down - but that is just a *guess* on my part (as is ANY comparison between those games' "Nielsen ratings" equivalent)

EDIT: Aside: Right now, I would be adding a +1 to TC figures (if I weren't Steam-free, heheh), along with a desultory, occasional +1 to Rebirth (felt like a visit back there, but got bored after 2 days - hoping to fit in a bit from time to time over the next couple of weeks, though, between TC/AP, Sacred 2, Path of Exile, and Sins of a Solar Empire ) The TC will get switched to AP (also Steam-free, so not counted by stat gatherers) once again soon after I finish the Hub, allowing me to do the very short and quick HQ plot (last one left), and then mothball that playthrough...

[spankahontis]

It's more than just a handful from data someone posted in here a month or so ago, it was more than TC on average.

<Quote corrected. AP>

Comparisons with TC are not valid, as many people play Steam-free, and thus those stats don't get counted in. As it is impossible to even estimate (other than by total thumbsuck) how many players this might be, that renders the comparison meaningless - all we can say for sure is that there are more people playing TC than the Steam analytics indicate, but not by how much. Hell, some people even play AP Steam-free (I know I do - I disconnect myself from Steam whenever at all possible!), so even those stats are a poor indication - and I'm guessing that more people play AP than TC, so if Rebirth playerbase is "more than TC on average" (which sounds marginal to begin with) based only on available metered data, then AP is probably beating Rebirth hands-down - but that is just a *guess* on my part (as is ANY comparison between those games' "Nielsen ratings" equivalent)

EDIT: Aside: Right now, I would be adding a +1 to TC figures (if I weren't Steam-free, heheh), along with a desultory, occasional +1 to Rebirth (felt like a visit back there, but got bored after 2 days - hoping to fit in a bit from time to time over the next couple of weeks, though, between TC/AP, Sacred 2, Path of Exile, and Sins of a Solar Empire ) The TC will get switched to AP (also Steam-free, so not counted by stat gatherers) once again soon after I finish the Hub, allowing me to do the very short and quick HQ plot (last one left), and then mothball that playthrough...

After the polls claiming Hillary was going to win the election, I don't tend to trust polls these days.

We can take what you're saying and apply that to speculation that Rebirth players are doing the same thing.. I've played Rebirth in Offline mode when my Internet provider 'does done goofed' and I'm without internet for a few hours.
But what we do know from what someone posted here around august time that it had around 15,000 players average over half to what we were seeing with other X Games.
So putting your theory and mine aside (Which are both speculation) We can only see what the data tells us, until we can turn theory into fact.

But I do agree that key features in AP I do miss like the Player HQ and Alien races that didn't make it into Rebirth.
But my expectations have matured over the years, I keep my feet on the ground.

As long as they improve UI and AI i would be happy when it comes to next title. Even XR would have been much better game if it had better AI.
If we get some new update for XR it will be some small fixes and nothing major.
Anyway i wonder how did sales go with their last DLC? Perhaps that might be the reason why they stopped updating XR ?

I think the DLC made the game more buggy, so I hope they are not thinking like that?
It would be incredibly lazy when they still have a long way to go to regain the trust of so many, thousands that still play older X titles.

[RAVEN.myst]

We can only see what the data tells us, until we can turn theory into fact.

Not entirely true: what I can do (and DO do) when the data is suspect (never mind when it's next to meaningless) is I don't look at it at all, as any conclusions drawn from it are bound to be suspect, at best (One can't, in the situation of "dataset A is unreliable, dataset B is also unreliable" simply discard the "common factor" of "unreliable" and in so doing assert that it's now possible to compare A to B - that is syllogistically fallacious.) You're right, none of the data can be taken as accurate - I'm not aware of any "no-Steam" executable for Rebirth as there is for TC/AP, but as you pointed out, there's offline mode (which I'm in permanently, heheheheh - though as I have to reinstall a couple of things thanks to a recent HDD meltdown, I'll have to put myself online briefly for that, sigh). So, the only conclusion we can reasonably draw is that at a give time there are *probably* "at least X users playing" (notice I'm not even to accept that absolutely! Yes, I too don't trust statistics collated by another party and without 100% transparency. )

[linolafett]

For the stats lovers: rebirth and all other X games are also avaliable on gog. so these players are not seen in any stats.

[sd_jasper]

I'm not aware of any "no-Steam" executable for Rebirth as there is for TC/AP

http://www.egosoft.com/download/x_rebirth/bonus_en.php

X Rebirth 4.0 - NoSteam executable

This executable allows you to play X Rebirth without having to run the Steam client. See this FAQ article for further information. The NoSteam executable is available only to users who have either X Rebirth registered in their forum profile or linked their Steam account.

[RAVEN.myst]

Thanks, sd_jasper - obviously, I managed to miss that one Will be grabbing that one right away - one step better than offline mode.

[spankahontis]

We can only see what the data tells us, until we can turn theory into fact.

Not entirely true: what I can do (and DO do) when the data is suspect (never mind when it's next to meaningless) is I don't look at it at all, as any conclusions drawn from it are bound to be suspect, at best (One can't, in the situation of "dataset A is unreliable, dataset B is also unreliable" simply discard the "common factor" of "unreliable" and in so doing assert that it's now possible to compare A to B - that is syllogistically fallacious.) You're right, none of the data can be taken as accurate - I'm not aware of any "no-Steam" executable for Rebirth as there is for TC/AP, but as you pointed out, there's offline mode (which I'm in permanently, heheheheh - though as I have to reinstall a couple of things thanks to a recent HDD meltdown, I'll have to put myself online briefly for that, sigh). So, the only conclusion we can reasonably draw is that at a give time there are *probably* "at least X users playing" (notice I'm not even to accept that absolutely! Yes, I too don't trust statistics collated by another party and without 100% transparency. )

It would be nothing more than a theory on both our parts at the end without solid data to back our points.

Now, If there was a questionaire on Steam or GoG that asked players (Those who own the games, those that don't can't participate as to keep it as accurate as possible, filter out those that are upping it unfairly) if they play either game Offline and how regular a basis they do it?
That would be much more helpful to Egosoft to see that they went the wrong direction with the new engine etc.

I'm not aware of any "no-Steam" executable for Rebirth as there is for TC/AP

http://www.egosoft.com/download/x_rebirth/bonus_en.php

X Rebirth 4.0 - NoSteam executable

This executable allows you to play X Rebirth without having to run the Steam client. See this FAQ article for further information. The NoSteam executable is available only to users who have either X Rebirth registered in their forum profile or linked their Steam account.

Egosoft kept that one secret from us.
I don't know if playing Offline improves frame rates? Might give it a try later.

[Alan Phipps]

"Egosoft kept that one secret from us." - That would be because it is seen as a last resort only for those people having technical difficulties with Steam service - and there are some downsides and risks to using it. It is therefore not generally encouraged as a common alternative way of playing Rebirth.

The FAQ on it was posted under Rebirth/Technical Support/Steam for just that reason.

[spankahontis]

"Egosoft kept that one secret from us." - That would be because it is seen as a last resort only for those people having technical difficulties with Steam service - and there are some downsides and risks to using it. It is therefore not generally encouraged as a common alternative way of playing Rebirth.

The FAQ on it was posted under Rebirth/Technical Support/Steam for just that reason.

Thanks for the Heads up.

[birdtable]

Well I am moving 500 miles end of November so would be grateful if they could hang fire until 2nd week of December before releasing anything ...My long suffering beloved wife would be pleased too.

[spankahontis]

Well I am moving 500 miles end of November so would be grateful if they could hang fire until 2nd week of December before releasing anything ...My long suffering beloved wife would be pleased too.

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