What is the point of building Integrative URV Forge ?

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What is the point of building Integrative URV Forge ?

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OK. I just want to se what community thinks about Integrative URV Forge (plot) ?

I don't se any use for it in DV....

1) Without food it cant run.(DV cant produce food without spices)

2) It cant produce Silicon Wafers without Cut Crystals. (only place with any Crystal is PMC controlled and my ships will get attacked)

3) Ships don't have fuel to jump to get Crystals to make drone because Cell Recharge Facility will run out food and stop making F-Cells . Also jump without will take to long and PMC ships will blow them up anyway...

4) Nobody don't need Silicon Wafers, Refined Metals or Drones. What is point of building station that nobody needs in that sectors???(cant make any profit without manual trading).

5) So I need to build anther 5 stations so i can run it efficient without manual trading..

6) The only good thing i can arm my stations with drones it produce.

I was just wondering if im missing something here ???
I could build much better station for same amount of resources and money (or less) spent to it (like Floating Meadows or Foodstuffs Supply ) :roll:
Also those broken terran stations should need Silicon Wafers, Refined Metals or Drones for secondary resources (like maintenance ). After all that chick was telling me that she need food and refined metals (during plot).

What everyone else thinks about this ???
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I think it was a poor choice of station, either that or DeVries is just too incomplete.
This station is only useful if you sell this stuff manually or build stations that need it.
Also, it doesn't fit into the story, you don't have to build drones... And wasn't DeVries supposed to need food according to someone (Nakano maybe)?
About Cut Crystals, somehow my station manages to buy some.
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I also think it is totally stupid. Totally agree.
While I think it makes sense in a naïve fallacy to help the system to fight against invading PMC it doesn't makes sense at all to built a high-tec-manufacturer in nowhere.
Why hasn't USA thought of that? Instead of building up life sustaining facilities, helping the economy and raising eduaction in terrorist-plagued regions they should start to place high-tech-tank-factories everywhere!
This will definitly solve everything!
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Integrative URV Forge isn't like a conventional drone factory - doesn't require any high tech components, though the trade-off is it can only make a single type of drone. Uses Energy Cells, Crystals, Food, Nividium, Ore & Silicon, all of which can either be bought or mined locally - so no need for any support infrastructure in the form of additional stations, just a handful of ships for trading & mining basic resources. I've found mine to be rather handy - virtually all of my warships carry a full complement of Interceptor mk1 drones made by that station. Just wish they could equip the drones directly from the factory rather than having to use an NPC shipyard to install them.
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careful, you've posted plot references in a no-spoiler zone !
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You have to remember that the plot is no more then a tutoral, to show the new player just how rebirth works. Although the IURV really dosn't do much it shows you how to build a station. And after the plot almost any station you build in Devries will be for your own use, and the only reason to keep playing a plot at this time is if you want a constant enemy ( PMC ) with no end in sight. I have said this before if Devries has no way to get some higher tech stations then it's a waste of time and resorces to build there.
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Post by Ausplat »

It's a source for Refined Metals and Silicon Wafers.
It'd be better if LI Rising Solitude didn't resupply the nearby shipyard's drones cheaper then your station can though.
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@bm01 Im thinking same thing that sector is still not finished... I think Ego is going to add more stations(I hope) that might need those materials. For mining colony they sure don't have any stations to refine ore
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@Tamina If NSA sees this you might get hired and work for them :P

@GCU Grey Area Yes. It might come in handy when it come to drones(for player only)... But Im talking for factory as whole in DV at beginning. Besides drones everything is useless. There is no sink for those resources in DV. Also when it comes to Crystal mining there is Overwatch right by jumpbeacon and any ship attempting to mine will get blown up by PMC.
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Sell manually

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I sell the drones manually and make pretty good credits doing so.
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bm01 wrote: Also, it doesn't fit into the story, you don't have to build drones...
I don't think that is quite accurate. In theory it would be useful for "the upcoming war" (and I think Yisha (?) says so) but in practice, Egosoft trigger plot progression too quickly and plot war combat begins before the station is complete.
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Post by Miniding »

Some of Ego said that DeVries is quite "empty" for a conviniance to the player as a sandbox for building... Anyway I agree there is not much of a sink to build up an economy there...

But you can still make some really good deals if you choose 3-4 stations and suplly devries with them... and at a larger scale (manually for now) you got plenty of good deals to do in OL or Albion (after the plot and a long way back in the little papers of PMC)

Itès doable!! 8)
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Re: Sell manually

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Frank Johnson wrote:I sell the drones manually and make pretty good credits doing so.
Same here, works good and run without any problems.

But the plotstory tells me, they need the drones for the upcoming war, or something else. But no one from DeVries will buy them...
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Sparky Sparkycorp wrote: I don't think that is quite accurate. In theory it would be useful for "the upcoming war" (and I think Yisha (?) says so) but in practice, Egosoft trigger plot progression too quickly and plot war combat begins before the station is complete.
I do agree too. They did trigger it way too fast... Station didn't even start producing drones and they already have enough to take on PMC.
Another thing all Terran battle ships( Sucellus my favorite) can't use drones.
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Nikola515 wrote:
Sparky Sparkycorp wrote: I don't think that is quite accurate. In theory it would be useful for "the upcoming war" (and I think Yisha (?) says so) but in practice, Egosoft trigger plot progression too quickly and plot war combat begins before the station is complete.
I do agree too. They did trigger it way too fast... Station didn't even start producing drones and they already have enough to take on PMC.
Another thing all Terran battle ships( Sucellus my favorite) can't use drones.
the war started well after my forge was completed ... also ...
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if you didnt pay attention ... not only does the plot call for gearing up for war ... the devries shipyard is short on drones ... plus the drones were specifically requested to counter the pmc xenon tech ...
Any way ... sometimes you just have to watch the videos and pay attention to what they say and need on stations ...
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Grassturtle wrote:
Nikola515 wrote:
Sparky Sparkycorp wrote: I don't think that is quite accurate. In theory it would be useful for "the upcoming war" (and I think Yisha (?) says so) but in practice, Egosoft trigger plot progression too quickly and plot war combat begins before the station is complete.
I do agree too. They did trigger it way too fast... Station didn't even start producing drones and they already have enough to take on PMC.
Another thing all Terran battle ships( Sucellus my favorite) can't use drones.
Grassturtle wrote: the war started well after my forge was completed ... also ...
Grassturtle wrote: if you didnt pay attention ...
Grassturtle wrote: Any way ... sometimes you just have to watch the videos and pay attention to what they say and need on stations ...
Erm, no, you are amusingly arrogant and your correction is amusingly wrong. Thank you :)

Whatever you think happened to your plot is not representative of what has actually been happening in the plot for others.
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As soon as the first URV Wharf is completed, the thing that makes drones, Nakano initiates a a big battle without waiting for any drones to be built or delivered.
That was what happened in my plot and it's also what is described in publicly available plot guides.
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Sparky Sparkycorp wrote: Erm, no, you are amusingly arrogant and your correction is amusingly wrong. Thank you :)
Please confine comments to the contents of posts, not each other.
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Grassturtle wrote:
the war started well after my forge was completed ... also ...
Nothing personal but this is completely wrong. And Sparky Sparkycorp is right you are missing a point here.... My point here is that URV is irrelevant to plot and here is why:

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If you paid attention that chick Karen or whatever her name is want food and REFINED METALS to fix "decade old and failing infrastructure". Ok now she wants food and her station Crystal Castle is full of food and it needs only spices to keep producing food.... But that is not the point. Point is URV station that can produce Refined Metals but it is irrelevant to plot because nobody don't needs it and even according to plot they need it bad :roll:
Also when it comes to drones you don't produce single drone and they already have enough to fight PMC ships/drones. So that stations is again irrelevant to the plot because it don't actually do anything for war effort. Also shipyard have enough drones (over 150 in my game) it is missing Reinforced Metal Plating, Fusion Reactors, Microchip...... And if you paid attention again DV have ability to build station/ships they just don't have materials to do it :wink:
So personally I would say that Terran race is not completed yet and they will be adding more stations to them in future. I hope one of Ego Devs can say something about this :D

Edit: here is link for Karen chick speech go to 3:50 and it should start there
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Post by Carl Sumner »

The game is not static, it is "live".

In my game the Terrans and the Free Argon are building stations in DeVries, using Construction ships just like we do.

Also, I think the Terrans did need the food when they said that. But when we cleared the enemy from the gate, mostly, they were able to trade directly. And I think my bringing in water helped make food, too.

But that is my game, yours could very well be different. 8)
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As far as I know HoA is building one station and RoC is building two stations in my game. This is actual first time I seen Roc building anything. The only problem with them building stations is that they are broken and don't work(bugged). They are missing managers, def. officers. So they cant trade/build or even defend them self :roll:

Also when I started reporting that in beta forum my topic got LOCKED :headbang:
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Nikola515 wrote:Also when I started reporting that in beta forum my topic got LOCKED :headbang:
If a topic got locked it may well be because a rule got broken, the Beta forum has different rules to the Universe forum, they're very specific about what can/can't be posted there. I'd try to repost about it either in here or the tech support forum. (hint: the dev's keep a close eye on the tech support forum). :wink:

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