Egosoft...Are you serious here ?
The fact that you totally broke the gameplay, make what you have make us wait for so long a retard game so bad that their is almost nothing to do while playing, no joy, no possible vision of anything we can accomplish and the fact that ALL wanted feature was throw away and be replaced by everything you should absolutely NEVER, not just put on the game but simply think about...All of this is not enough ?
I just try to see if i can per miracle now that some "huge" patches was release enjoy even a bit the gameplay.
Hahahahaha that was before start the game...
First thing, the cursor disappear in the middle of the screen...On, great, the game was so badly done and so ridiculously turn around this stupid Xbox controller from god damn Microsoft that even the mouse is not really supported...Great, it start well...
I decide to lets you having a small chance before i totally get a even worst opinion of you...
And i decide to use keyboard arrow like a real man rather than plug a PS2/PS3 like USB controller
Then i just mess around to see controls...
Ok only two controllers support, yeah great, another retard limitation for those who probably never hear about Hotas Warthog and its need of a separate rudder and who, for a lot of reason don't want or can't use T.A.R.G.E.T and for those who can't count over 2...
This is (supposed to be) a SPACE SIM, not a retard FPS where just keyboard and mouse are enough, look at Arma damn it, it can handle EVERY controllers of any kind, even 10 can be connected at once of you need it, its not poorly and ridiculously limited to 2 controllers and 2 keys per actions...
Whatever, don't even want to think anymore about what a game from 2013/2014 is supposed to have...
So i plan to use my Hotas Warthog throttle for the number of buttons and the ministick which work better than the one from the X52 that 64bit computer broke and can only emulate mouse...
Of course PPJoy don't work correctly with Windows 7 x64 so i can't use it.
Not yet any possibility to unbind keys, yeah great when you want some keys to be delete without need to think about how to mess around with bind over for clear keys settings...
Okey...
Well, just don't start to get mad and just try to see if their is any setting for fix the mouse issue...
Ho cool, FINALLY a cool feature, borderless windows, cause i have 3 screens and i'm really busy while playing to talk and do stuff on internet, so i'll need this feature !
Yeah remember this one...
I change graphics settings, cause i have a HUGE computer and all its per default set as LOW, no hardware detection ? haha ok can live without it even if it can be comprehensible why everyone complain about performance issue...
So i just mess around with controls and try to do something constructive...Try, cause this is the only thing we can do here...
And what now ?
Ho, an option to keep mouse inside the windows, it can be cool to check this, see if it work =)
Enabled it, Yay it work !!!
Hum short of in fact, the mouse just leave the windows and after a ridiculous 1 second delay get teleported i don't know where on the game windows, Display Fusion do a 1 millions time better job at this, if we just click while the cursor is outside, it will just do exactly what this option is supposed to prevent...
This is stupid but anyway i don't need it cause i WANT my cursor to be able to click on others windows for do what i have to do, mainly in a game where after send a trading mission, the only thing left to do is to way...I remember when you told us that we will have a lot to do meanwhile, nice lie =)
So anyway i disabled this option to lets my mouse go out, this not fix at all the issue of the cursor which disappear...
So ok, i just disabled it and what happen while i try to reach Skype windows ? The stupid option that not even work correctly won't stop and keep suck my mouse to the game =)
I try a lot of turn ON, try mouse, turn off, try mouse, turn on and so one, nothing change...
Okey, last hope, i told myself, yeah is normal the game need to be restart, somewhere a setting have screw up to load into memory and just keep being writed on options files but nothing else.
So, without my mouse to clic on quit in the Display Fusion's taskbar of my left and right monitors, i just use ALT F4.
I launch the game again and then, something strange happen, why the screen is surrounded with a strange white square and why the opening video lag ?
Is that ? Yes IT IS, game just launch in windowed mode, not the borderless, the regular one, it surprise me, but i was like : the ALT + F4 have not lets him time to saves settings probably, strange that it don't launch in fullscreen as previously...
I'll check something see if something cause issue with this, where's my mouse again ?
Ho, yeah she keep be suck by the game...
Check options, Windowed borderless mode selected...
Okey...So, i'll enabled regular windowed mode and witch again to borderless, HO it work !
I'll check on mouse settings...Nothing change, keep suck my cursor and it even keep disappear on menu so i'm forced to use keyboard again...
This time, after make sure that mouse option are turn off, i quit the game from menu and restart it.
Did you guess what happen ?
Can you smell this famous odor that make you able to understand the perfume of the wasted time and money ?
Cause now i do !
Yes it have again start in borderless windowed mode, mouse cursor keep be sucked out of my left and right monitors and yes the cursor disappear in menu screen and will probably do the same in the few, poor, badly designed and limited ingame menu.
That what i get from the game that you have TOLD US that it will be...You know i'm too lazy to list all the lie, cause the list is huge...
That what i get from a 5000€ computer able in real space sim such a Space Shuttle Sim or Orbiter to simulate the whole solar system and a space craft with fully simulated gravity, system, Newtonian physic, and even radiation pressure on ship, or run BF4 or Crysis 3 maxed out with enough FPS to match with my main screen or able to simulate through VirtualBox 4 dual core computer on Windows 7 at once...
Computer which become a regular one today for a lot of gamer...
I still remember when i wanted the Haswell E with 8 core mainly for X Rebirth supposed to handle over 20 CPU core =)
Thanks you Egosoft for this epic and huge failure on gameplay AND technical side and waste of money.
Ho and by the way, i don't know coding something more complex than PHP and LUA and i still able through LIMITED GLOVEPIE able to create 10 time more efficient and stable AI than you even while using unstable virtual computer support =)
7 year for this ? haha It will took me 7 year me too to find to do a so badly designed game...Look at Limit Theory and check how many people code it, how well AI and interface and even how well performance and optimization look like, how effective and complex/complete the trading system is and since how many time he work on his game and compare with you.
All we wanted is X3 with better graphics, new trading system and deep actual one, better interface that don't lag with the game when too much ship are present (yeah we don't wanted another one, just a more fluid one), bigger game map, no loading for gate (you have archive this, so why on hell you have prefer highway over distortion/gate or hyperdrive) walkable ship inside, more than a Deck, a real BRIDGE and big inside for our Skunk, if it was a single ship at least make it decent...A ship where we can choose to be oriented with coaxial laser only light and agile like fighter or bigger, still agile and fast but slower and turret equiped and more shield/hull corvet like, not the worst mix possible of both and more objects including surface element and fun with THOUSAND of lasers and others weapons and a lot of shield and missile launchers...
This is not too much asked, why the hell did you do that ?
And why the hell on technical side the game is even on the same level of failure and useless than the gameplay ?
I have never see something fail that hard on all levels.
PS1:
Sorry people for this explosion of rage, but i'm not the only one, the last one and based on the reason, it can be comprehensible.
PS2:
Egosoft team, in case you are too lasy or busy to have fun with our money through this scam, here is the short list of the issue :
Mouse disappear in main menu screen appear briefly while moving it, except over buttons.
Borderless Windowed mode will cause the regular Windowed mode to be enabled while restarting the game.
Keep Mouse cursor in Windows option will, once activate keep mouse cursor on windows while disabled.
The Keep Mouse cursor in Windows option lets cursor go out for too long duration and too far from the game windows, it can't prevent regular unexpected back to desktop from untended out of windows/Screen click.
Missing things :
-More than 2 controllers support, 3 is a good number and the base of balance for full HOTAS configuration and 4 is better for those who have an alternative controller for stations and walking around or interface.
-More than 2 buttons per actions, 4, from keyboard to 3 controllers, 5 is better.
-Hardware detection and optimization based on free computer power, auto configuration of graphics settings based on hardware detection, and presets for graphic settings, such as Very Low, Low, Medium, High, Very High
-Possibility to unmap key binding with Escape (keep it press down) key, more keys for more actions such as targeting feature that you plan to do...
-Alternative to actual interface with a different visual menu, you can change interface visual rending/look without need to change game's core, their is no excuse, mainly with the Skunk's lateral screen.
-Alternative trading system based on the old one with NO limitations and possibility for the Skunk to trade.
-Better/more command for owned ship, including navigation, combat and trading.
-More control over what surface element we want to install on our various owned ships, (surface elements concept is useless without it)
-Real 3D cockpit and TrackIR and other head tracking device + if possible Oculus Rift support, and bigger Skunk 3D inside based on this : http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l64 ... deview.jpg
-External View, Third person for ship, can be understand that character 3rd view is not do, EVA possibility with repair laser back.
-Better NPC 3D Models and or more variety over NPC and Stations and/or possibility to talk to every NPC inside station without need to dock, or dock from outside only.
-REAL capital ship 3D interior with more room, including BRIDGE (now only the Deck) without limitation from use ship commanding interface from here...Far from RTS system but a good start anyway.
-Old map and Gravidar system back, actual one is unreadable, or at least a switch between stations (actuals one with more control over zoom for global view level) and old one for ships and goods.
-No minigame on highway (i know this is planed but i'm not sure it will be properly done) ONLY BONUS from faster ship from aspiration, bigger maximum speed for Skunk on Highway and no loss of speed after boost.
-Jumpdrive available for the Skunk (people are tired of highway) with maybe limited range and no (or low) Ecell consumption.
-Possibility to build station WHERE WE WANT without limited available slot, including possibility to build it far from everything.
-Turrets on the Skunk with possibility to set their behavior and possibility to manually control them, a total of 3 will be correct.
-Possibility to use Rockets as a independent weapons from missile and with a upgradeable payload number.
-More upgrades/equipments for the Skunk (just rename copy and past weapon with new stats can be enough).
This is NOT a basic wishlist, this is a MAIN ISSUE and big gameplay issue and leak that NEED to be fixed and added, no exception.
Or just release source code to public for lets people that will do better do YOUR job and what you have initially promises us...
Take on Mars have his source code released and its cause no problems at all to anyone and it help improving Beta and final product quality.
Regards.
Are you serious ? 3 big bug yet and i still on the main menu.
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Are you serious ? 3 big bug yet and i still on the main menu.
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Call of Rebirth...Don't worry a big patch is comming, its called Star Citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
I don't want to be human !
Last hope for X Rebirth is that Egosoft stop to be arrogant and stupid and give access to Source Code for public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
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What are you talking about ?
Call of Rebirth...Don't worry a big patch is comming, its called Star Citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
I don't want to be human !
Last hope for X Rebirth is that Egosoft stop to be arrogant and stupid and give access to Source Code for public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
I don't want to be human !
Last hope for X Rebirth is that Egosoft stop to be arrogant and stupid and give access to Source Code for public.
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Sorry, i'm dyslexic and English is not my first language (i don't speak German and French forum won't make anything moving anyway) but you can just read the "PS(2)" at the end where i say in a shorter version the 3/4 main issue and a important missing feature list under it.Zelnot wrote:It is indeed hard to read this text. Maybe use a little bit of bold letters or different sizesto highlight the topic of a passage.
Call of Rebirth...Don't worry a big patch is comming, its called Star Citizen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
I don't want to be human !
Last hope for X Rebirth is that Egosoft stop to be arrogant and stupid and give access to Source Code for public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM3CptVZDYU
I don't want to be human !
Last hope for X Rebirth is that Egosoft stop to be arrogant and stupid and give access to Source Code for public.
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They are actually planning to add more than one controller option. Should be in a forum in here somewhere, DocAce is talking about it. will see if I can find it later 
The option to push escape when you want to unbind a key is allready present.
I have seen some actions with up to 3 different bindings. Not sure how it works, but you will get an ekstra line to bind keys to the same function.
Maybe if you allready have 2 keys and push and change a key you might get the option to add a new line. Will see if I can find a screenshot later
You can use a mod from Steam Workshop to get more commands for your ships/fleets. Not what we want, but from what I understand they work quite well, so I doubt Egosoft will be focusing on other things for now.
Economy is not as broken as many thinks, in my experience it is actually very small issues, that can how ever cause very big problems. To me these are the main priority of the game (I am a heavy station builder
More options to set for the station managers on your own stations would help some. Also, the shipstations are not generating enough need for most wares (especially the expensive ones), so more of that would be needed.
Things like building fighters and small freighters pop to mind.
I would also like to see more options to upgrade the skunk. The option to choose between adding turrets, XL cargospace, more misile storage, more drone storage, more crew space would be quite obvious options to me. However this is not really that big a priority to me. I am building my stations, I prefer to have them running correctly

The option to push escape when you want to unbind a key is allready present.
I have seen some actions with up to 3 different bindings. Not sure how it works, but you will get an ekstra line to bind keys to the same function.
Maybe if you allready have 2 keys and push and change a key you might get the option to add a new line. Will see if I can find a screenshot later

You can use a mod from Steam Workshop to get more commands for your ships/fleets. Not what we want, but from what I understand they work quite well, so I doubt Egosoft will be focusing on other things for now.
Economy is not as broken as many thinks, in my experience it is actually very small issues, that can how ever cause very big problems. To me these are the main priority of the game (I am a heavy station builder

More options to set for the station managers on your own stations would help some. Also, the shipstations are not generating enough need for most wares (especially the expensive ones), so more of that would be needed.
Things like building fighters and small freighters pop to mind.
I would also like to see more options to upgrade the skunk. The option to choose between adding turrets, XL cargospace, more misile storage, more drone storage, more crew space would be quite obvious options to me. However this is not really that big a priority to me. I am building my stations, I prefer to have them running correctly
