Dear Egosoft, Your game is broken.

[djethernet]

Dear Egosoft,
I was excited to buy rebirth within 24 hours of it's release. It's completely broken. It's still broken after three patches. Seriously, I couldn't get past the title screen (invisible mouse). After spamming all the keys I'm rewarded with a spinning camera. Imagine if I got an hour in the game. You guys and introversion were/are my hero's. Introversion released an alpha and got continuous feedback on their latest game before release. You guys hit F7, the compiler said 0 errors and you said "Ship it!". And for the forum people that tell me to just wait or read the support forum and do this and that, it's 2013 not 1997 where I need to mod an .ini file and boot in DOS mode.

GG!

[NukeEM]

We got riped of by a company that no longer cares about their core customers, all they care about is profit.
If u look into it, u wont find 1 preview of the game anywhere, thats obviously because they refused to ship preview copies to any reviewers. The only reason they would do that is if they knew they had a ****** unfinished product, and knew that they would have reduced sales because of a bad preview.

[Nikola515]

We got riped of by a company that no longer cares about their core customers, all they care about is profit.

That explains everything OMG Bernd and all EGO devs have been kidnaped and replaced by evil Teladi !!!!!!

On a serious note... I'm still having hard time believing they would do something like that on purpose on first place. Some information would be nice from them. Like why game is like this on a first place ? And what a hell happened ?

[Shootist]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

No one has been ripped off.

I am certain that your world is not so limited that you have nothing else to do. Go do it. Come back later, your game will be sorted and you will be able to get on with your life.

[_nox_]

It's certainly frustrating, that's for sure.

Everything I really enjoy is pretty much broken. My captured ships don't repair or defend. I don't know if it works for anyone else but I can't even build a station. It just doesn't proceed, and I have no idea what to do.

I love how the game is put together - I've enjoyed looking at the config files but MY GOD it's frustrating.

[spankahontis]

Yeah, Bernd and crew are sitting in some volcano lair in the Philippines drinking champagne and watching Bond Girls dancing for their pleasure.

Bernd: "We sold them a buggy game, they think were going to fix it? Ha ha ha! The Fools!"

Minions: "Ha ha ha ha!"


Or maybe, they're busy fixing the game? As much as they love making games, this is a business and they do care about their reputation; realistic.

[caleb]

Whether they are fixing the game, or they are in the Caiman islands, the fact is we were sold a game in a deplorable state. And they knew it was on a deplorable state. That is a fact.

[Eriodas]

It's also a very repetitive fact. We already know this, we are actually tired of reading this.. so please use the search function next time and look for a Rebirth Rant topic and post there, so i know i don't have to read it.

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

It is a matter of perspective, TRADE is broken in the game which breaks a large part of the game.

It can be played for Inventory Trading, and general operation of the Skunk but you can not get rely on mass trading working.

URV Drones are also possibly broken as they have a tendency to stop dead in space rather than returning to the skunk.

Due to all the above it is probable that building of your own capital ships and stations may be broken too.

All of the above can be considered broken (as an X-game) probably since at least v1.15.

Have we been ripped off? I would say not, but I would say that from what I have seen so far IMO the game should not have been considered GOLD status it is more like a BETA and appears to have been released way too early (by at least a month by my estimate) under the guise of being GOLD.

People asking for refunds are well with-in their rights IMO but I do believe they are perhaps being a little short sighted and impatient. Egosoft has a reasonably good reputation for supporting their customers after release unlike some larger software houses I could name. I am sure that those of us being patient will not regret it in the long run.

[Sam Redstone]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

Listen, I am an Egosoft "white knight," I will defend them to the death.

But this game is broken, pal.

I will happily wait for them to fix it while I play other games, but PLEASE DON'T say it "isn't broken."

Trading doesn't work.

The economy doesn't work.

Highways (which are the means of travel now that gates are gone) don't work.

Joysticks don't work.

All you can do is fly around in one sector and shoot at civilians for no reason.

Does that fit your definition of an X game?

"trade - fight - build - think"

has become

"curse - fight - regret - crash"

Patiently waiting for Egosoft to put things in order.

Still my favorite "underdog" game developer. Their reach exceeds their grasp, that's all. Frankly, I'm glad it does, or we wouldn't have an X universe at all.

They'll fix it. Just pretend the release date is June 2014 and go back to waiting.

[imminentepicfail]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

Listen, I am an Egosoft "white knight," I will defend them to the death.

But this game is broken, pal.

I will happily wait for them to fix it while I play other games, but PLEASE DON'T say it "isn't broken."

Trading doesn't work.

The economy doesn't work.

Highways (which are the means of travel now that gates are gone) don't work.

Joysticks don't work.

All you can do is fly around in one sector and shoot at civilians for no reason.

Does that fit your definition of an X game?

"trade - fight - build - think"

has become

"curse - fight - regret - crash"

Patiently waiting for Egosoft to put things in order.

Still my favorite "underdog" game developer. Their reach exceeds their grasp, that's all. Frankly, I'm glad it does, or we wouldn't have an X universe at all.

They'll fix it. Just pretend the release date is June 2014 and go back to waiting.

Highways work just fine. No crashes after 1.17 with fresh game.
(no cashes with 1.14 save either, only 1.16 saves crash with 1.17 game)

No one has played this so far that starting new game would ruin their life. Loosing few hours is peanuts and nothing.

You can fight and do missions and think. Trade is broken and that affects building too. Defence officers AI is broken so players capital ships wont fight or defend. After those are fixed, game is very much playable and then Egosoft can focus on adding features and tweaking existing features.

[monsto]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

No one has been ripped off.

I am certain that your world is not so limited that you have nothing else to do. Go do it. Come back later, your game will be sorted and you will be able to get on with your life.

I'm not sure what you're smoking, friend, but you could probably make more money reselling it.

Individual showstopping features of the game do not work -- not that they do not work as planned, they do not work -- for most of their customers. You can't trade, fight or build without all progress being stopped because of a malfunction with the game.

That's what they call broken.

This game got 99 problems and a patch aint one.

[monsto]

Highways work just fine. No crashes after 1.17 with fresh game.
(no cashes with 1.14 save either, only 1.16 saves crash with 1.17 game)

No one has played this so far that starting new game would ruin their life. Loosing few hours is peanuts and nothing.

You can fight and do missions and think. Trade is broken and that affects building too. Defence officers AI is broken so players capital ships wont fight or defend. After those are fixed, game is very much playable and then Egosoft can focus on adding features and tweaking existing features.

People (me) didn't buy this game just to fly around shooting things. I want to take a destroyer fleet into the enemies homebase and rip a station cluster to shreds. I want to incapacitate a carrier, board it and limp it back to my home turf.

Yeah I can peashoot at other peashooters, and I can fly around in circles on what amounts to 1 way streets. That's not the game.

If it were as simple as "just" fixing defence offiser and trade AI, they'd have done that before release and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

[wullf]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

No one has been ripped off.

I am certain that your world is not so limited that you have nothing else to do. Go do it. Come back later, your game will be sorted and you will be able to get on with your life.

u know people like u, defending a company that sells unfinished games, are the problem.
becouse those companie see that and they think they can do what they wont.

the other problem is preordering and first day buying.
if every player, after release would wait for a week or two, till the reviews are finished and they actually can see some real gameplay footage, the probleme would solve itself and then next year every company would release a finished and polished game or go bancrupt.

so the biggest problem are the players themselves for supporting such practise

[wullf]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

Listen, I am an Egosoft "white knight," I will defend them to the death.

But this game is broken, pal.

I will happily wait for them to fix it while I play other games, but PLEASE DON'T say it "isn't broken."

Trading doesn't work.

The economy doesn't work.

Highways (which are the means of travel now that gates are gone) don't work.

Joysticks don't work.

All you can do is fly around in one sector and shoot at civilians for no reason.

Does that fit your definition of an X game?

"trade - fight - build - think"

has become

"curse - fight - regret - crash"

Patiently waiting for Egosoft to put things in order.

Still my favorite "underdog" game developer. Their reach exceeds their grasp, that's all. Frankly, I'm glad it does, or we wouldn't have an X universe at all.

They'll fix it. Just pretend the release date is June 2014 and go back to waiting.

Highways work just fine. No crashes after 1.17 with fresh game.
(no cashes with 1.14 save either, only 1.16 saves crash with 1.17 game)

No one has played this so far that starting new game would ruin their life. Loosing few hours is peanuts and nothing.

You can fight and do missions and think. Trade is broken and that affects building too. Defence officers AI is broken so players capital ships wont fight or defend. After those are fixed, game is very much playable and then Egosoft can focus on adding features and tweaking existing features.

highways are not ok, for me they still crash

[esd]

It's also a very repetitive fact. We already know this, we are actually tired of reading this.. so please use the search function next time and look for a Rebirth Rant topic and post there, so i know i don't have to read it.

And yet, by posting this, you were aiding the thread's exposure by helping to keep it at the top of the forum. Almost as if you want more people to read it.

(Tip: If you don't like a thread, don't help keep it alive by posting in it)

[wullf]

The game isn't broken though it does need patching.

It is a matter of perspective, TRADE is broken in the game which breaks a large part of the game.

It can be played for Inventory Trading, and general operation of the Skunk but you can not get rely on mass trading working.

URV Drones are also possibly broken as they have a tendency to stop dead in space rather than returning to the skunk.

Due to all the above it is probable that building of your own capital ships and stations may be broken too.

All of the above can be considered broken (as an X-game) probably since at least v1.15.

Have we been ripped off? I would say not, but I would say that from what I have seen so far IMO the game should not have been considered GOLD status it is more like a BETA and appears to have been released way too early (by at least a month by my estimate) under the guise of being GOLD.

People asking for refunds are well with-in their rights IMO but I do believe they are perhaps being a little short sighted and impatient. Egosoft has a reasonably good reputation for supporting their customers after release unlike some larger software houses I could name. I am sure that those of us being patient will not regret it in the long run.

actualy u will regret it in the long rund becouse in a month this gaame will cost only 19.99€ and in a few months when it is supposed to be fixed it will drop to 9.99€.
so yes u have been ripped off.
and the worst part of it u have been ripped off with false promises, and this practise seems to be acceptable by the entire gaming industry and even players themselves , who go as far as to defend such behavior

[fsleeper]

I know they didn't "do it on purpose" but there is simply NO WAY they tested it, OR they used the same testers and sign off process as the Obamacare web site (sorry, couldn't resist the dig)

No, what happened is a date was set and they stuck to the date, no matter what. The ones that are at fault is the ones that set a hard date OR the ones that agreed to stick to it.

My beef isn't the bugs, those you can pretty easily fix. My grief is with the entire change in product that cut out ALL that we LOVED and surely still wanted (or didn't)so we now have significantly reduced capabilities, child-focused mini-games, etc. These are base level product elements that can't be casually "fixed".

[Sam L.R. Griffiths]

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People asking for refunds are well with-in their rights IMO but I do believe they are perhaps being a little short sighted and impatient. Egosoft has a reasonably good reputation for supporting their customers after release unlike some larger software houses I could name. I am sure that those of us being patient will not regret it in the long run.

actualy u will regret it in the long rund becouse in a month this gaame will cost only 19.99€ and in a few months when it is supposed to be fixed it will drop to 9.99€.
so yes u have been ripped off.
and the worst part of it u have been ripped off with false promises, and this practise seems to be acceptable by the entire gaming industry and even players themselves , who go as far as to defend such behavior

Can you tell me the winning numbers for next week's Euromillions as well please.

I am sorry, but other than the quality of the release there is little to complain about where X-Rebirth is concerned.

We all should have known from the pre-release discussions that (a) it was not going to be X4 and (b) the game was going to be a starting point and revised based on player feedback.

[eRe4s3r]

We all should have known from the pre-release discussions that (a) it was not going to be X4 and (b) the game was going to be a starting point and revised based on player feedback.

Usually a starting point for anything doesn't rank 32/100 on metacritic after 7 professional reviews..... and is thus one of the 5th lowest ranked games sold on Steam.

If Egosoft wanted us fans to help, they could have asked us. I would have kickstarted X4 ..... but not anymore.