Game executable is 32-bit and some testing

SpaceBrotha · Post by **SpaceBrotha** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 11:54

As most have noticed, the game has some slight issues with framerates. In an attempt to figure out where the bottleneck was, I put HWiNFO64 on my second screen, as well as task manager.

First thing i noticed was that the game shows up as a 32 bit application in the process tab, based on the *32 next to the process name. Which is a curious thing, but seeing as the game never took more than 1,4gb of ram, i doubt that's the main problem either.

I booted a new free play and just started spinning in place where the game started.

I have an i7 3770k, 8gb ram and radeon HD 7870.
Settings at almost minimum (1080p and shaders at normal, others off, view distance and effect distance at 30)

Still getting massive fps drops whenever something other than empty space was in view.

HWiNFO was showing GPU utilization at 85% and task manager was showing cpu utilization at a paltry 20 something %, looking at performance tab, seeing four of the eight logical cores utilized at slightly above 40% at all times.

So CPU, GPU nor RAM (even for 32-bit program) fully utilized, yet fps horrendous, what gives?

One reason could be blocking threads, I have no idea how the game is programmed, but if there's a point where on screen stuff causes strain on one thread or another, and other threads wait for that one thread or two to finish, you could see FPS drops even when not everything is fully utilized.

It would also explain why some very high end systems have very little to no FPS drops: Their hardware is simply so high end that no one thread ever becomes a bottleneck.

Another reason could of course be that 85% GPU is the best my system can give and the GPU really is the bottleneck, even though it's like two generations better than the recommended GFX card.

Then there's the possibility that similar to what happened with Skyrim happened here: "Forgot to use optimization in the compiler options, whoops."

I don't know, but I hope this helps the devs even slightly in figuring out what's up because I really want to play but <20fps when something is on screen is infuriating.

santaranger · Post by **santaranger** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 12:59

I don't have the game, but have you considered overheating as a possible source of bad performance? A firend of mine had annoying fps drops until he found out his cpu cooler was not attached properly.

Have a look at your processor's clock rate during gameplay. When the Windows ( 8 ) Task Manager shows 40% cpu usage, it can mean your CPU is used 100% but clocked down to 40% of nominal clock rate.
This is generally a good thing that happens to protect your hardware when things go wrong.

It does not have to be the CPU overheating. On my rig, the voltage regulator chips (next to the socket) overheat when my 8core is stressed and I don't actively cool them. Mine have no cooling whatsoever, which is a mistake I won't ever make again when buying a board.

Overheating issues often surface when new games with high requirements come out. Older games may not draw that much power to cause overheating, or the fps drops may not be noticeable there.

SpaceBrotha · Post by **SpaceBrotha** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 13:43

Nah, jumps from 1600mhz to 3700mhz when the game finishes loading and stays there.

Post by **CBJ** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 15:51

Yes, the game is 32-bit. The requirement for 64-bit Windows stems from it needing more than 2GB of memory, not it being a 64-bit application. The 1.4GB figure you quote is not the full picture as it doesn't include all the memory the game is actually using.

Can you post a [url=http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq_answer_en.php?answer=610&version=8][b]DX[/b][b]D[/b]iag[/url] report so that we can get a clearer picture of which systems are suffering performance issues and which not?

Deleted User · Post by **Deleted User** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 16:31

CBJ wrote:Yes, the game is 32-bit. The requirement for 64-bit Windows stems from it needing more than 2GB of memory, not it being a 64-bit application. The 1.4GB figure you quote is not the full picture as it doesn't include all the memory the game is actually using.

Can you post a DXDiag report so that we can get a clearer picture of which systems are suffering performance issues and which not?

I was ADAMANT the game would have been a 64-bit executable... why the change?

Post by **CBJ** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 17:40

No change; it has never been 64-bit. People just made that assumption based on the requirement for a 64-bit version of Windows, even after we explained that this wasn't the case.

Deleted User · Post by **Deleted User** » Sun, 17. Nov 13, 08:53

you did? wherE?

SpaceBrotha · Post by **SpaceBrotha** » Sun, 17. Nov 13, 09:49

So yeah, I saw someone mentioning that downloading radeonpro, enabling overdrive and setting "always use highest performance clocks while gaming" helps... and it did, atleast somewhat.

Now i'm looking at 20-35 fps in most places, dips to below 20 whenever sitting or standing up from the pilot chair.

Seems like part of the problem is gfx clock fluctuation, though what causes THAT is beyond me.

Shaders normal, vsync off, shadows on, vsaa off, AA 4x (3-5 fps difference between this and 0x), view/effect distance 50, lod 30

DXDiag:

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| | | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09
| | | Service: usbhub
| | | Driver: usbhub.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 343040 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ USB Input Device
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC225
| | | | Location: Port_#0004.Hub_#0005
| | | | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | | | Service: HidUsb
| | | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 30208 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 76800 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 7/14/2009 02:06:17, 32896 bytes
| | | | 
| | | +-+ HID-compliant device
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC225
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid_device
| | | | | 
| | | +-+ HID Keyboard Device
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC225
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| | | | | Service: kbdhid
| | | | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 33280 bytes
| | | | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes
| | | 
| +-+ Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0016
| | | Location: Port_#0007.Hub_#0004
| | | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_1532&pid_0016&rev_0100
| | | Lower Filters: rzdaendpt
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | | Driver: rzdaendpt.sys, 7/10/2013 08:29:44, 33464 bytes
| | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 30208 bytes
| | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 76800 bytes
| | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 7/14/2009 02:06:17, 32896 bytes
| | | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 7/14/2009 07:21:12, 1721576 bytes
| | | 
| | +-+ Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Keyboard
| | | | Location: Razer Keyboard
| | | | Matching Device ID: {16ea057e-3926-43c6-b752-353f3d0bf493}\hid_device
| | | | Upper Filters: mshidkmdf
| | | | Service: rzvkeyboard
| | | | Driver: rzvkeyboard.sys, 7/10/2013 08:29:42, 30904 bytes
| | | | 
| | | +-+ Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0016
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_0016&mi_02
| | | | | Upper Filters: rzudd
| | | | | Service: kbdhid
| | | | | Driver: rzudd.sys, 7/10/2013 08:29:32, 137400 bytes
| | | | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 33280 bytes
| | | | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes
| | | | | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 7/14/2009 07:21:12, 1721576 bytes
| | | | 
| | +-+ Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0016
| | | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_0016&rev_0100
| | | | Upper Filters: rzudd
| | | | Service: mouhid
| | | | Driver: rzudd.sys, 7/10/2013 08:29:32, 137400 bytes
| | | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 31232 bytes
| | | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 49216 bytes
| | | | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 7/14/2009 07:21:12, 1721576 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC221
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/14/2009 01:19:57, 105472 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 63360 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/14/2009 02:00:20, 26624 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 49216 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 53.9 GB
Total Space: 122.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: OCZ-VECTOR

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 81.7 GB
Total Space: 356.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: Volume0

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 2.9 GB
Total Space: 400.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD20EARX-008FB0

      Drive: F:
 Free Space: 40.6 GB
Total Space: 225.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0

      Drive: G:
 Free Space: 15.5 GB
Total Space: 251.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0

      Drive: H:
 Free Space: 24.2 GB
Total Space: 90.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3320620AS

      Drive: I:
 Free Space: 11.0 GB
Total Space: 215.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: ST3320620AS

      Drive: J:
 Free Space: 1017.9 GB
Total Space: 1507.7 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD20EARX-008FB0

      Drive: K:
 Free Space: 48.8 GB
Total Space: 475.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1

      Drive: L:
 Free Space: 16.5 GB
Total Space: 478.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1

      Drive: Z:
 Free Space: 72.1 GB
Total Space: 120.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: Volume0

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System Devices
--------------
     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E5
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 - 1E1C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E1C&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E6
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_84321043&REV_06\4&11EB9DBD&0&00E4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) Z77 Express Chipset LPC Controller - 1E44
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E44&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&F8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 03:48:27, 15424 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 1E18
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E18&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E4
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AAB0&SUBSYS_AAB01043&REV_00\4&BAB4994&0&0108
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 122368 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface 
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E3A&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 1E10
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E10&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_C4\3&11583659&0&E0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6819&SUBSYS_04311043&REV_00\4&BAB4994&0&0008
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E31&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&A0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\iusb3xhc.sys, 1.00.0001.0209 (English), 1/4/2012 21:58:50, 786200 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E02&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&FA
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 11.00.0000.1032 (English), 11/29/2011 18:40:32, 568600 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1E2D
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E2D&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&D0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 52224 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 325120 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 343040 bytes

     Name: Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port - 0151
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0151&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_09\3&11583659&0&08
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1E26
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E26&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&E8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 52224 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 325120 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 343040 bytes

     Name: Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller - 0150
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0150&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_09\3&11583659&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SMBus Host Controller - 1E22
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E22&SUBSYS_84CA1043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&FB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_1080&SUBSYS_84891043&REV_03\4&17F33A27&0&00E5
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 184704 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E20&SUBSYS_84451043&REV_04\3&11583659&0&D8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 122368 bytes

     Name: Sound Blaster Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0012&SUBSYS_00231102&REV_01\4&299066B9&0&00E6
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\cthdb.sys, 6.00.0102.0023 (English), 7/3/2013 14:52:38, 34072 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/21/2010 05:23:47, 122368 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.18221
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft TV Captions Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.01.7601.17514
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
ATI MPEG File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
AMD Video Decoder,0x00200000,1,2,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
AMD MJPEG Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AMD Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
ATI MPEG Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AMD Video Scaler Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft TV Subtitles Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.18175
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.7601.17514
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AMD Video Rotation Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.7601.17514
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc64.dll,13.20.0000.31107
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Digital-In (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
What U Hear (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Sound Blaster Digital-In,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Sound Blaster Microphone,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Sound Blaster What U Hear,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio SPDIF out 5,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Sound Blaster SPDIF-Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Sound Blaster Speaker/Headphone,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: SPDIF-Out (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Speakers (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SPDIF-Out (Sound Blaster Z),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

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    Enabled:
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Cdaragorn · Post by **Cdaragorn** » Tue, 19. Nov 13, 04:00

Why on earth would you put out a 32 bit exe on a program that requires a 64 bit OS? You're honestly telling us that you have intentionally added a bottleneck to the game for no reason whatsoever?

Aside from the fact that it can't use all the memory available on the system, it also has to run under emulation. This is ridiculous. What possible good reason could you have for doing this?

Can you please compile this using a 64-bit compiler so we can use the system's native architecture?

pfrabott · Post by **pfrabott** » Tue, 19. Nov 13, 04:56

Well, technically speaking it's a 64-bit process (EXE) that is running in a 32-bit container (or virtualization). It only spends it's time in 64-bit mode when it is accessing higher MAS. It does a few 64-bit processor feature things but not much. Originally I thought based on a HEX dump that it was running in 64-bit mode for most of it's processing but spent it's mainproc time in 32-bit mode.

I even said that in another post last week. After an Egosoft MOD corrected me I revisited my research. I found that although it was running 64-bit features those were being passed down to the 32-bit process.

If you run task manager, there is a "carrot" next to the X EXE process. When you drop that down you will see it is actually running 2 EXE's the parent EXE which is running 64-bit in a 32-bit container and the child process which is running in the 32-bit container directly. The 64-bit parent is only required for the higher MAS access but it probably does some mapping to hand down to the 32-bit process.

Game executable is 32-bit and some testing

Game executable is 32-bit and some testing

32 bit exe, are you serious?