Any1 else tried this With an SDD

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Any1 else tried this With an SDD

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i cant seem to get any noticeable improvements?
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Post by Alan Phipps »

Tried what, and do you mean an SSD?

If you mean an X game and an SSD then you wouldn't see any real improvement except maybe in game launching time; the game in progess plays from RAM rather than loading many files from the HDD/SSD.

You might see some improvement if you are quite low on fitted RAM and/or have a 32 bit OS and so will be using pagefile a lot (only if your pagefile is on the SSD though). You would be better there spending cash on more RAM and a 64 bit OS than on an SSD in my opinion.

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I've noticed a difference in "Hearts of Iron III" loading times. With 3 normal HDDs in RAID-0 it loads pretty fast, with an SSD a tad faster and with a single normal HDD it takes quite long.

But, if you mean for X, you won't see a difference, not even in loading times.


And Alan, I would not put my pagefile on an SSD. Seriously! That's what you got an RAMDISK for.
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Post by Alan Phipps »

Neither would I. I would fix the RAM shortage or update OS first and use the SSD for launching OS and applications which is what it is good at. Maybe I would use it as an SSD commonly-loaded files speed cache under OS/mobo tools auto-control if the mobo supports that.
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Post by Sieg06660 »

recently majorly upgraded my pc (in anticipation of new games including Rebirth )With new motherboard bundle, case and an SDD and currently was wondering what affects Load times as Shogun 2 has gone from 5 min loading to 2 min

how do i change my page file as i moved most of my Temp files off the SDD and use steam Tools for game SDD managment
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Post by Alan Phipps »

As we both above now agreed, if you have plenty of RAM and a 64 bit OS (as I assume for a new build/upgrade although you haven't actually told us) you don't want or need your pagefile on the SSD.
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Post by Psychoclops »

I had issues with my SSD after purchase, luckily the place i purchased it had a forum with a help thread specially for SSD pc's, i'll link it for you as it solved my problems and anyone here with an SSD may find it really helpful: SSD Management
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First, unless you never want debug info from a blue-screen, you need to keep at minimum pagefile on the boot drive. No way around that. Second, there are certain other house-keeping functions that the pagefile does that we benefit from. When I first upgraded to 16GB RAM, I had disabled my pagefile completely, thinking I would never bother with it. Every so often I would keep on getting crashes that I lost a great deal of time trying to diagnose. Read on a blog (can't find it right now) and the microsoft.com site about some things the pagefile does and decided to try switching it on. Problems disappeared.

Defrag in Windows 7 should not allow you to defrag an SSD. It definitely does not in Windows 8 (which I was happy to see just now).

The only thing that matters is TRIM, but if you have a sandforce-based drive that can get tricky, because trim is disabled in some of their firmware. Also if you run RAID-0 it will be disabled on Intel motherboards that aren't Z77.

Finally, if you have HDDs, you will likely move your documents, pictures, music and videos folders to one of them. Instead of turning it off, spend the time on configuring Indexing so it ignores your SSD but still indexes those locations that you need to quickly search through on the HDDs. It will improve your overall experience.
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Post by fiksal »

if you compile a lot, you'll see a difference.
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Post by pjknibbs »

The main area where SSDs beat spinning rust is in access times, which makes reading lots of smaller files much faster. If you're streaming a single large file from the disc, and it's not too badly fragmented, you won't see much difference. Most games tend to keep their data in large chunks rather than scattered around as lots of small files, so the improvements will tend to be less for them than for some applications.
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Post by ali-stool »

I don't see any difference at all playing x3 but I do with some other games which have a lot of loading and other cpu intensive games such paradox grand strategy games. However even then it's only by a few seconds or so, nothing that noticeable.

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