BUG?: My Property / Ships not showing M class when fighter option unchecked

[russbo]

Any reason why in the My Property panels, that the M capital class ships will not show in "All Property" and "Ships" unless the "show fighters" is checked in Options??

Just checking "show M1, M2...." in Options doesn't cause the cap ships to show in My Ships; the "show fighters" has to be checked also.

Purchasing capital ships in shipyards still finds them unrecognized as capital ships in the My Property panels. Creating cap ships also; they all won't show unless the "show fighters" option is checked along with "show M1...).

Using latest version of TC on Steam, with Vista, dual 8600gtx, dual core Intel. Using EMP as mod (but this was an issue before that was installed).

Did use the X3 to X3TC converter script, but not using any of those capital ships. All cap ships are either purchased or created.

With a FRESH game, no conversion, creating a Zeus with all options checked, will show that Zeus in "all property" and "ships". Unchecking "fighter" option will cause Zeus to be removed from "all property" and "ships", leaving only the player ship.

Any idea how to fix this so that it worked as in Reunion? Have I missed something? Or is this a Steam thing? (have I mentioned that I hate Steam?)

Thanks!

[russbo]

Don't really want to belabor this, but either there is something wrong with my download game, this is a new "feature", or no one has noticed this.

Why won't the M class cap ships show up in the SHIPS section of MY PROPERTY unless the "show fighters" option is checked? This is different from Reunion.

[Sandalpocalypse]

it has nothing to do with steam.

no idea why this was changed...

[russbo]

So it is not only me? This is a game design change?

(Can it be changed back? This makes managing large empires more difficult).

[jtb2008]

I have the same problem and I wyould guess it is a bug. Otherwise there is no point in having that option.

[russbo]

Well, we're at patch 1.4, and this still seems to be here. I'm not sure if it's a bug (it's different than Reunion) or the "new design".

When trying to view M and T class ships in the PROPERTY MANAGER, you cannot filter them from the other ships.

"Show M class ships" reveals nothing, UNLESS you have either "Show fighters..." or "Show traders..." clicked also.

Problem is, your M class ships show up with a few hundred fighters or transports.

Can we revert back to the old way, which allowed us to filter the capital class ships to show by themselves? With large fleets, this is getting difficult.

Or if this is the "new design", then can someone explain why? Has anyone figured out a way to workaround this issue???

Thanks!

[russbo]

I've purchased the Steam version and the retail DVD version, and both exhibit this bizarre filtering behavior.

Anyone figure out a way to make this work properly? Has this been an oversight on Egosoft's part, or a new design decision?

Frustrating to deal with when you have large fleets.

Thanks!

[Strayen]

Did a quick search on the forums and this thread is in the same area of where my problem is.

I am patched up and have the DVD version of the game. I turned OFF the satellites from appearing in my ALL property screen and now nothing shows up in my property screen or ships. I turned the satellites back on but still nothing.

Anyone know how to reset the property screen? It's really annoying not being able to control any of my ships easily.

[Carlo the Curious]

Did you accidentally set 'Show wingmen only' to 'Yes'?

[Strayen]

YAY! Thanks for the quick help. Now to get back to taking over the universe.