75mw sheild script

the old one · Post by **the old one** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 14:53

Ihad a nova but it was that slow, i used the 75mw script and now fly the mamba with 1 75mw sheild and it is the best thing since sliced bread,i can now catch must anythig i chase now,and my combat ratings are going up just fine,so i would like to thank all the scripters out there ,thanks Dennis

Al · Post by Al » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 15:17

I'm not surprised your combat rating is going up. Why stop at a 75MW shield. Would it not be easier in combat to fit a couple of 125MW shields instead?

Al

the old one · Post by **the old one** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 15:56

I am taking it for granted that the 75 mw sheild is = to 3 25mw sheilds as in the nova,so the mamba should be equal to the nova for sheilds Dennis

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 16:11

For that matter, why not just script in guns which will kill any enemy (even an M2) with a single shot? If you want everything handed to you on a plate that would seem the logical way to go...

Steel Chicken2 · Post by **Steel Chicken2** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 16:18

I got an idea, how about we give someone grief because they enjoy playing the game differently then we do, that will be fun.

SunFire · Post by **SunFire** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 16:29

pjknibbs wrote:For that matter, why not just script in guns which will kill any enemy (even an M2) with a single shot? If you want everything handed to you on a plate that would seem the logical way to go...

I couldnt have said it better my self.

Al · Post by Al » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 17:54

The point wasn't to give someone grief but rather to point out that if you start hacking the ships to make the game easier, why not go all the way.

Each ship within a class should have merits and downsides. Thats why they are different. If you remove this then you might as well only have one ship of each class

Al

Mantra2K · Post by **Mantra2K** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 18:16

Leave the guy alone! It's his choice if he decides to change the game, if there's something he doesn't like then he has the right to change it.

Don't flame a person just for that. You took it so far as it just made you seem like trolls. I expect better than that from a moderator.

Curmudgeon · Post by **Curmudgeon** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 18:21

No, I think the point was that dh_mann used a script that made the game more fun for him and was thanking the people that helped to make the game more fun for him.

His idea of fun was to put a 75 MW shield in a Mamba. He didn't want to go all the way to aone or more 125 MW shields or kill M2 ships in one shot. Sarcasm, particularly by a moderator, is uncalled for simply because you disagree with his idea of fun.

Mantra2K · Post by **Mantra2K** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 18:30

Agreed.

Al · Post by Al » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 18:41

Wooohooo aint never been called a troll before.

the old one · Post by **the old one** » Thu, 29. Jan 04, 21:20

Thanks again,a point to the snipers,instead of having a go at me for useing a script why dont you have a go at EGOSOFT for putting the script editor in the game or am i just an easy target Dennis

kryptyk · Post by **kryptyk** » Fri, 30. Jan 04, 04:40

1) it's just a game guys.....chill

2) I don't think Egosoft put the scripting engine in the game to "cheat". It's just like any powerful tool.....it can be abused

Deleted User · Post by **Deleted User** » Sat, 31. Jan 04, 23:20

kryptyk wrote:
I don't think Egosoft put the scripting engine in the game to "cheat". It's just like any powerful tool.....it can be abused

and who says he is cheating and more to the point, who is he cheating.
Answer Nobody, certainly not you

Tai Gordon · Post by **Tai Gordon** » Sat, 31. Jan 04, 23:33

that's right...

i'm using this mod too and it's been said several times: the only one i can cheat in this game is me...okay, maybe the khaak...but they started first cheating...damn clusters...

the 75mw idea is IMHO great...beside some missing balancing...i guess 2 75mw for a nova would be more than enough...
but still it's no real cheating...would ships like the m6 class be more integrated in the story and the environment itself i wouldn't need that mod...

cheers

tai

Tai Gordon · Post by **Tai Gordon** » Sat, 31. Jan 04, 23:34

that's right...

i'm using this mod too and it's been said several times: the only one i can cheat in this game is me...okay, maybe the khaak...but they started first cheating...damn clusters...

the 75mw idea is IMHO great...beside some missing balancing...i guess 2 75mw for a nova would be more than enough...
but still it's no real cheating...would ships like the m6 class be more integrated in the story and the environment itself i wouldn't need that mod...

cheers

tai

kryptyk · Post by **kryptyk** » Sun, 1. Feb 04, 01:30

XenonBuster wrote:
kryptyk wrote:
I don't think Egosoft put the scripting engine in the game to "cheat". It's just like any powerful tool.....it can be abused
and who says he is cheating and more to the point, who is he cheating.
Answer Nobody, certainly not you

True....I don't care one bit about who does what with their game and wasn't pointing the finger at anybody. I was defending the script engine from the people that think it's just there for cheaters to use and no good could come from it. It's there and can be used to improve the game or someone can use it to "cheat". Just as long as they realize that it takes away from the game when you do this. It's not as fulfilling to spawn a Titan then it is to buy it yourself from all the trading and time that the you put into it.

Darshu · Post by **Darshu** » Sun, 1. Feb 04, 05:55

There is one problem that changing the shield settings like that will have on your game.

You're basically flying around in a high power M4 when you fly the Mamba. To stay alive, you need to be an excellent pilot, and be able to split-S and barrel roll your way out of trouble.

THAT's the point of the Mamba. If you give it massive shields, you aren't cheating, you're actually altering the whole point of the craft itself. You're going to miss out on the whole "seat of your pants" thing that Mambas provide.

I fly a Mamba when I want to slaughter pirates, I fly a Nova when facing down Khaak and for capturing. IMHO, the way the Mamba is presented is classic of the series, and it gives the ship flavor. To give it 75MW worth of sheilding, without correspondingly upping EVERY other ships shields, well, it just devalues the play experience. You're cheating yourself man.

kryptyk · Post by **kryptyk** » Sun, 1. Feb 04, 06:02

Darshu wrote: You're cheating yourself man.

I like that....it sums up everything quite nicely.

Without balance the whole thing will deteriorate and fall like a house of cards....and nobody likes picking up the cards.

Darshu · Post by **Darshu** » Sun, 1. Feb 04, 06:10

Catch-52 anyone?

But seriously, if you look at the maths involved, the way the shields are structured:

1MW -> 5MW -> 25MW -> 125MW

See a pattern? Each higher one is a multiple of x5. Perhaps the devs picked it arbitrarily, or perhaps the system is finely balanced.

To balance the game, you'd need to increase everyone else's shields by a factor of 3 as well as multiplying all weapon damage by 3. Then you're back to square one, a balanced game.

/rant

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