amtct wrote:But more publicity means more than 300,000 copies sold.
Er, no it doesn't. A quick study of business economics covering the basics of market size and elasticity of demand will quickly show you the flaw in your statement.
The publishers have a much clearer idea than you or I of the potential sales in a given market, with or without publicity, and have clearly decided that it isn't economically viable to produce a Gold edition specifically for the English-speaking market. Trying to second guess them on this is a futile exercise.
amtct wrote:But more publicity means more than 300,000 copies sold.
Er, no it doesn't. A quick study of business economics covering the basics of market size and elasticity of demand will quickly show you the flaw in your statement.
The publishers have a much clearer idea than you or I of the potential sales in a given market, with or without publicity, and have clearly decided that it isn't economically viable to produce a Gold edition specifically for the English-speaking market. Trying to second guess them on this is a futile exercise.
This mean that this game doesn't deserve a lot of publicity?
I made some kind of publicity to this game my self convincing 10 of my friends to buy this game.I will stop when I will reach 100
In my opinion,this is the cheapest game on the market, for the complexity it has.
English-speaking market its larger because non english people prefer the english version(I'm one of them).
amtct wrote:This mean that this game doesn't deserve a lot of publicity?
That is not what I said. What I said was that your numbers don't add up to give something that will convince a publisher to create an English-language version of the Gold edition.
mufassa wrote:
And ego continue to have obviously successful and in demand products published by companies which will limit their profits why?
For certain values of "successful" and "in demand". I don't know the actual sales figures for TC, but even if every single person signed up for this forum bought the game, that's a little over 300,000 copies sold. Believe me, in computer game terms that's small potatoes.
Then by this logic, there shouldn't have been an English language version of TC at all, because this seems to assume there were more German language sales than English of the original. And yet, the potential English language buyers (including those non-native English speakers who prefer the English language version), judged by the total number of English language speakers worldwide, greatly outnumber those who speak German and who may prefer the German language version.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Deepsilver the publisher for both the English and German versions (among others)? So just what licensing agreement is there between Egosoft and Deepsilver that prevents them from publishing the Gold Edition in both languages? Also, if you check the numbers of threads on the English language X-Universe forum vs the German language one, we have nearly three times as many. Such activity is generally a good indicator of the relative numbers of overall players, so it would seem that there are nearly three times as many English language X-ers as German. And yet, there's only a German version of the Gold Edition. It puzzles me.
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Nanook wrote:So just what licensing agreement is there between Egosoft and Deepsilver that prevents them from publishing the Gold Edition in both languages?
There's no licensing issue, other than the fact that they can only factor in significant numbers of sales of any English-language versions in Europe and a few other places as the North American publisher is different. Clearly they have decided that it isn't worth their while producing this in English. The raw number of players isn't the only factor here; they have presumably also looked at things like how sales of compilations and collectors' editions sell in their different markets and made their decision on that basis. It's not the first time they've published a special edition in German only, so it's not really such a big surprise. As I said before, it's pointless trying to second guess the publisher; they have access to real costs and sales figures while people like you and me don't.
Nanook wrote:So just what licensing agreement is there between Egosoft and Deepsilver that prevents them from publishing the Gold Edition in both languages?
There's no licensing issue, other than the fact that they can only factor in significant numbers of sales of any English-language versions in Europe and a few other places as the North American publisher is different. Clearly they have decided that it isn't worth their while producing this in English. The raw number of players isn't the only factor here; they have presumably also looked at things like how sales of compilations and collectors' editions sell in their different markets and made their decision on that basis. It's not the first time they've published a special edition in German only, so it's not really such a big surprise. As I said before, it's pointless trying to second guess the publisher; they have access to real costs and sales figures while people like you and me don't.
Thanks for the clarification. I was going by this statement:
Toastie wrote:.... Note: UK-based fans should be aware that the licensing agreement for X3: Gold Edition means it will not be available from UK retailers, but the game still includes full English text and voice support.
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it helps a lot to put a "free game" bundle with some major video card manufacturer.... this game can run perfectly well in mid level video cards, such 9600GT.. (or any at its price point)
... just my 2 cents.
we all know that there is NOT a Free game in a bundle? hehe marketing .....
Nanook wrote:So just what licensing agreement is there between Egosoft and Deepsilver that prevents them from publishing the Gold Edition in both languages?
There's no licensing issue, other than the fact that they can only factor in significant numbers of sales of any English-language versions in Europe and a few other places as the North American publisher is different. Clearly they have decided that it isn't worth their while producing this in English. The raw number of players isn't the only factor here; they have presumably also looked at things like how sales of compilations and collectors' editions sell in their different markets and made their decision on that basis. It's not the first time they've published a special edition in German only, so it's not really such a big surprise. As I said before, it's pointless trying to second guess the publisher; they have access to real costs and sales figures while people like you and me don't.
Thanks for the clarification. I was going by this statement:
Toastie wrote:.... Note: UK-based fans should be aware that the licensing agreement for X3: Gold Edition means it will not be available from UK retailers, but the game still includes full English text and voice support.
That statement relates to the fact that the game will not be sold by UK retailers, NOT the fact that the box and manual will be only in German.
Yes, thank you, it was unclear to me at the time, but CBJ cleared it up. So in essence, we have two issues - a licensing one where the current version won't be sold in the UK, and a, presumably, fiscal one where the publisher won't make an English language version. I'll go away now.
{Nanook looks back over his shoulder and issues a plaintive-sounding little roar as he shuffles his great clawed feet dejectedly towards the exit, knowing there will not be a new pretty box with his favorite toy inside in a language he can understand.}
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Nanook wrote:Yes, thank you, it was unclear to me at the time, but CBJ cleared it up. So in essence, we have two issues - a licensing one where the current version won't be sold in the UK, and a, presumably, fiscal one where the publisher won't make an English language version. I'll go away now.
{Nanook looks back over his shoulder and issues a plaintive-sounding little roar as he shuffles his great clawed feet dejectedly towards the exit, knowing there will not be a new pretty box with his favorite toy inside in a language he can understand.}
I hope it was sufficiently clear that even if the toy's box and instructions aren't in a language you understand, the toy itself is still perfectly 'playable with' in a language you do understand.
IMHO the box's prettiness isn't diminished by the fact it's in another language, in fact it's probably more exotic and collectable as a result, much like trying to acquire foreign imports of your favourite band's albums to complement or complete your collection.
To answer a few questions about the box and manuals for the Gold Edition...
The box will, of course, be localised for the country of sale.
Only the German version (as sold in the Egosoft.com shop) will have a fully printed manual of X3:TC. Other EU versions will have a short 16-page manual, with the pre-existing PDF manuals available on the game disk, which now includes a fully translated version of the TC manual in Spanish.
Manuals for X3: Reunion will be available in English, German, French and Italian in PDF format on the gamedisk.
Hello Toastie, A quick question, will X3 TC version 2 (Aldrin Missions) be available as an add-on-download or only available as the full-"Gold" -version?
thanks
Buried in a paragraph in the first post is the news that "Existing owners ... will also be pleased to know that ... The Aldrin Missions will be made available for download as a patch from Egosoft.com and Steam. "
I feel that ought to have been a paragraph in its own right, more people would have spotted it that way.
