#NotMyArgons ARGON RACE and SHIPS

[banghead]

So yeah, the biggest colony had 100k people. "most colonies" were "devastated", and the 100k one got reduced to 20k + Gunne fleet. Not that much of people.

Yeah, I remember that, but the maths does not check out.

Or there must have been some serious baby boom going on during those 700 years so millions, if not billions could populate systems, space stations, and multiple planets in the X universe.

Well not all Planets in Argon Systems are colonized, but thos that are obviously 700 years have been enough to colonize the core systems and another 70 years have been enough to colonize a lot more in the "east"

[boreas.real]

You are right, the worlds population is mostly non caucasian, so one would expect that a Game made in mainly caucasian country and that will be brought by majority of the Caucasian world wouldn't be racist and troll its main player base.
To do so is racist(I actually assume its a bug personally, if it was done intentionally its the last Egosoft title I will ever buy)

One would also think that non caucasians are quite capable of making their own games and don't need to troll their primary player racial base by ensuring they make up only 1% of the ingame NPC.

I went through 250 Human NPC in game.
Of those 250 240 were black, 3 was Caucasian, and 7 were some weird ass Indian/Chinese old granny/man thing.

Funny thing is you are the racist here...
I quite happily buy Asian games set in China such as Romance of the three kingdoms series(when it was good) I don't have any problems with all the chars being Asian.
I played quest for glory 3 Wages of war(one of my fav games) Majority of all humans in that game are African but surprise surprise its set in an Africanish like country and it makes perfect rational sense that they are majority African. I love Asian/Indian movies more so then hollywood these days... most often they don't have a single Caucasian and surprise surprise I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is attacks against my race by SJW claiming people are racist for being upset at what looks like an intentional attack and insult simply because they are white.

What I and others are upset about are the spate of widespread attacks against whites across the western world by people of colour, such as over 500000 white girls raped in the UK over 3 years by muslims simply because they were WHITE.
Or the New years mass rapes in germany by Arabs/Negros against German women that saw thousands of white women dragged down into subways and raped. Feel free to google for the videos...
Maybe its the world wide "knock out game" where Africans go along and punch a random white person as they pass and if they knock them out they "win" and also often rob the victim aswell.

Maybe the fact that in every Western country the most victimized group of people are whites by non whites when it comes to hate crimes based on statistics but hey whites are the majority if they comitted hate crimes at even a equal rate the non whites would actually be more victimized yet they are not... White people don't have a right to be upset right?

Maybe its the mass spate of false claims of white racism across the world and especially in the USA and Canada were "minorities" will write hate speech or nazi symbols or claim they were abused by white people only for video evidence to come out showing they did it themselves.

Maybe people just want to play a game without the PC crap or SJW crap making it into game and possibly being thrown in our faces.

That is some serious racist bull.
First, I searched extensivley about that "500k girls raped by muslims" bull and the closest thing i found about that is a statistic by the Ministry of Justice saying, that 12% of those convicted of rape are muslim. If we take that figure, than there would have been over 4 million rapes in the UK. At that point you have a way larger problem than muslims raping other people.

Second, THOUSANDS of white women raped? Are you serious? In that night were 454 cases of sexual harrasment made, 3 of wich were rape. I don't know how your math works, but in my book 3 and thousands are like night and day.
Before claiming such ridiculous and outragous things, you should check your facts first, but before that, go see a doctor, he might help you with your delusions.

[Phoynix]

Assuming 10k child bearing women having 10 children each(currently much of the world has 7-15) and 16 years between generations(most women become child bearing at 13-15)
Then take fatalities into account so say 8 out of 10 survive so 4 child bearing for each.

After 300 years you have 687194767360000 of bearing age females alone.

Assuming an average of 5 children and 4 surviving and 2 being female child bearing.
2621440000 child bearing after 300 years(not total population which is about 2*~3X taking a human lifespan of 80 years)

Majority of humans today that die is due to starvation and disease, uncontrolled population growth will see ~ another billion humans added in the next 11 years despite this.
There is currently 50 humans for every square KM of arable land on Earth today.

Human population growth is massive given a thousand years just 5 females and 5 males can have trillions at a completely reasonable birth rate..

So yeah, the biggest colony had 100k people. "most colonies" were "devastated", and the 100k one got reduced to 20k + Gunne fleet. Not that much of people.

Yeah, I remember that, but the maths does not check out.

Or there must have been some serious baby boom going on during those 700 years so millions, if not billions could populate systems, space stations, and multiple planets in the X universe.

[Phoynix]

The first is a typo its 50k not 500k

The second is backed up by leaked GERMAN GOV DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL RAPES WERE OVER 2000 AND THE GERMAN GOV COVERED IT UP...
2015/2016New Years

Feel free to actually check properly.

So do you think the fact the media and governments LIE to white people about how serious crimes are makes it better or worse?

You are right, the worlds population is mostly non caucasian, so one would expect that a Game made in mainly caucasian country and that will be brought by majority of the Caucasian world wouldn't be racist and troll its main player base.
To do so is racist(I actually assume its a bug personally, if it was done intentionally its the last Egosoft title I will ever buy)

One would also think that non caucasians are quite capable of making their own games and don't need to troll their primary player racial base by ensuring they make up only 1% of the ingame NPC.

I went through 250 Human NPC in game.
Of those 250 240 were black, 3 was Caucasian, and 7 were some weird ass Indian/Chinese old granny/man thing.

Funny thing is you are the racist here...
I quite happily buy Asian games set in China such as Romance of the three kingdoms series(when it was good) I don't have any problems with all the chars being Asian.
I played quest for glory 3 Wages of war(one of my fav games) Majority of all humans in that game are African but surprise surprise its set in an Africanish like country and it makes perfect rational sense that they are majority African. I love Asian/Indian movies more so then hollywood these days... most often they don't have a single Caucasian and surprise surprise I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is attacks against my race by SJW claiming people are racist for being upset at what looks like an intentional attack and insult simply because they are white.

What I and others are upset about are the spate of widespread attacks against whites across the western world by people of colour, such as over 500000 white girls raped in the UK over 3 years by muslims simply because they were WHITE.
Or the New years mass rapes in germany by Arabs/Negros against German women that saw thousands of white women dragged down into subways and raped. Feel free to google for the videos...
Maybe its the world wide "knock out game" where Africans go along and punch a random white person as they pass and if they knock them out they "win" and also often rob the victim aswell.

Maybe the fact that in every Western country the most victimized group of people are whites by non whites when it comes to hate crimes based on statistics but hey whites are the majority if they comitted hate crimes at even a equal rate the non whites would actually be more victimized yet they are not... White people don't have a right to be upset right?

Maybe its the mass spate of false claims of white racism across the world and especially in the USA and Canada were "minorities" will write hate speech or nazi symbols or claim they were abused by white people only for video evidence to come out showing they did it themselves.

Maybe people just want to play a game without the PC crap or SJW crap making it into game and possibly being thrown in our faces.

That is some serious racist bull.
First, I searched extensivley about that "500k girls raped by muslims" bull and the closest thing i found about that is a statistic by the Ministry of Justice saying, that 12% of those convicted of rape are muslim. If we take that figure, than there would have been over 4 million rapes in the UK. At that point you have a way larger problem than muslims raping other people.

Second, THOUSANDS of white women raped? Are you serious? In that night were 454 cases of sexual harrasment made, 3 of wich were rape. I don't know how your math works, but in my book 3 and thousands are like night and day.
Before claiming such ridiculous and outragous things, you should check your facts first, but before that, go see a doctor, he might help you with your delusions.

[banghead]

Argon life expectation is 110 years.

[boreas.real]

The first is a typo its 50k not 500k

The second is backed up by leaked GERMAN GOV DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL RAPES WERE OVER 2000 AND THE GERMAN GOV COVERED IT UP...
2015/2016New Years

Feel free to actually check properly.

So do you think the fact the media and governments LIE to white people about how serious crimes are makes it better or worse?

No i just think, that you are one of those conspiracy theorists, whose only agenda is to use confirmation bias and made up "proofs" to push thier unjustified and wrong accusations.
None of the things you have stated are true.
Now, if you would kindly not spread your toxic waste outside of your mind, humanity would be very thankfull.

[Phoynix]

Really? thats what you got?
So what exactly is the conspiracy theory part?
The fact it was proven real(the document) or are you claiming the German police falsified the document? let me guess they are racist?...

maybe the videos... you did look right?

Yep its just another white conspiracy because white people are evil and no one else can do any wrong...

Their is a conspiracy theory going on with SJW and the PC crowd but its not by whites...

PS-Look up Uk Muslim Sex/Rape/Grooming gangs and the coverups.
The 50k is taken from 2007-2013 when the UK gov actually dismissed cases and refused to press charges and got victims to recant statements on mass.
Where they also charged children with prostitution and drunkedness and even let Muslims walk when it they were found to have images of their sexual assaults against children on their phones with no charges.

But again.. I guess official documents were just made up by whites because they are racist and the videos were faked...

The first is a typo its 50k not 500k

The second is backed up by leaked GERMAN GOV DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL RAPES WERE OVER 2000 AND THE GERMAN GOV COVERED IT UP...
2015/2016New Years

Feel free to actually check properly.

So do you think the fact the media and governments LIE to white people about how serious crimes are makes it better or worse?

No i just think, that you are one of those conspiracy theorists, whose only agenda is to use confirmation bias and made up "proofs" to push thier unjustified and wrong accusations.
None of the things you have stated are true.
Now, if you would kindly not spread your toxic waste outside of your mind, humanity would be very thankfull.

[StormMagi]

Argon Station Authority Public Service Message. "We would like to remind you that any consumption of Space Weed or Space Fuel is illegal aboard this station. Thank you."

Seriously though, this is starting to derail into an off topic, troll post (though it has a troll title to begin with)... All I am going to say is, if you really don't like something, try learning how to fix it yourself instead of just bitching about it.

I, for one, welcome our Toaster overlords.

[MegaJohnny]

Funny thing is you are the racist here...
I quite happily buy Asian games set in China such as Romance of the three kingdoms series(when it was good) I don't have any problems with all the chars being Asian.
I played quest for glory 3 Wages of war(one of my fav games) Majority of all humans in that game are African but surprise surprise its set in an Africanish like country and it makes perfect rational sense that they are majority African. I love Asian/Indian movies more so then hollywood these days... most often they don't have a single Caucasian and surprise surprise I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is attacks against my race by SJW claiming people are racist for being upset at what looks like an intentional attack and insult simply because they are white.

Forgive me for noticing that none of those games are set in 2900-odd space age.

Again. Egosoft put some black character models in their game. It's not Egosoft trotting out rape statistics or interpreting nonwhites in video games as an attack on their entire race.

Your statistics can be as real as you want them to be, it still isn't even tangentially related to character models in video games.

[Phoynix]

How long they live doesn't matter all that much past 51, women are viable on average till 51.
In theory the average women can actually have 43 children if they became pregnant 1 month after birth for their entire lives.(obviously not good for the lady)
This puts them on the same level as rats that mature after 5 weeks and live for 2 years giving 3-6 litters of 7-10 on average offspring.
While humans are long lived and have small litters or single offspring our capacity to breed is actually larger then most other mammals due to a womans long viable years of breeding and our child morality rate even without modern medicine where only 1/3 of children survive to adulthood is still greater then most other animals.

Argon life expectation is 110 years.

[RWolf]

Its extremely difficult not to respond to such a "sensitive" topic, especially since responding seriously would result in going away from "political correctness", and that always comes with certain risks due to one sided bigotry (the intolerance of views or opinions of others).

I do find it odd that with all the chinese text on in game advertisements, the target audience of the game and the lore + games so far in the series, that you get this odd choice of demographics as far as NPCs go. It is alienating to be honest. I noticed the same thing being done to certain Marvel franchises as well, for example Thor. Asgard is based on Norse mythology, it is the place where the Aesir (a race of nordic people) live, yet when the movies came out the Aesir were largely African, with some Asian and random European looking people. Not as much blonde or red hair as one would expect. The character Valkyrie, who in the lore was a tall blonde named Brunnhilde, whose entire back story involved a relationship with a certain man and his fate. So when Marvel decided to cast Brunnhilde as a short african lady, playing the role of a Norse warmaiden, it became extremely hard to accept, rather it was borderline insulting. It showed no respect for the norse mythology or the range of unique races of people which existed in the world. To make matters worse, they made her a lesbian which completely destroys her characters backstory. The creators saw more value in hitting certain check boxes to earn "social capital" than to actually respect or understand the content they took from.
One could call it "cultural appropriation" mixed with ideological pandering.

When Black Panther came around, marvel did the complete opposite and made sure Wakanda (unlike the Aesir's Asgard) was completely homogeneous. To the intellectually astute, a double standard presents itself. We are told we are not allowed to be uncomfortable by this, but many are they just won't say it because it means losing "social capital" or being attacked verbally. This is not good.

Now with the lord of the rings show coming up, the producers are already saying the people of middle earth, including the elves, will be "multi-racial". This ignores the fact that the whole lord of the rings franchise, the concept, was supposed to be a reflection of Europe and Europeans. Even the new Witcher series based on Polish mythology and slavic people are being subverted in the same manner for their TV show.

At some point, this process not only looks politically motivated (see ideological subversion), but it starts to alienate the fanbase and lessons the value of those said franchises.

With that out of the way, I do not think Egosoft thought about this too deeply in their decisions to add that kind of NPC combo to the game. If anything, the NPCs look like they were generated with presets from something like MakeHuman or some other model generator. A big nono for them was to have so many major noticeable visual markers on the limited number of human NPCs. The red bandana, the dread locks, none of these should be in the game because they are too eye catching. Meaning you will really notice the "cloned" model everywhere you go based on those markers. Instead the non-beginner mistake would be to design the NPCs to be as similar as possible to one another with nothing really standing out, as to prevent the user from seeing a pattern (pattern recognition). Unless Egosoft can generate a ton of different character models and combinations, they should avoid trying to add massive racial variety with big visual markers (red bandana and dreadlocks) as to remove the obvious repetition of the said model everywhere. Better yet, keep everyone in space suits and helmets. The more similar the human NPCs look to one another, the better... in this case.

So do you think the fact the media and governments LIE....

As Orwell pointed out, in time of universal deceit, the truth becomes a revolutionary act. There is a lot of deceit going on, with the intent to subvert.
So for example, the government/news sources will mark down pakistani as simply "asian" as a way to remove the religious and ethnic element. Its obvious why this is being done.

Here in the US we have seen something similar in our crime statistics. There are entire pages full of central american criminals who have committed murder, rape...ect but their criminal profile marks them down as white males. In the news, we have constantly seen attempts to "re-shade" criminals to make them look lighter skinned, especially where high profile shootings occur.

All this manipulation and subversion highlights a certain causality, one that results in whites (european, caucasian and slavic) becoming more racially conscious (which is something every other major racial group has or has been conditioned to have).

I think what a lot this really boils down to is that a racial consciousness that was previously lost is coming back, and with its return, the ability to say you have certain preferences that lean towards the in-group (which is actually quite normal).

That is some serious racist bull.

I really wish you would stop using words like "racist" as at this point it really has no real meaning other than to imply something you think is undesirable, which ironically, used to be the definition of diversity (from latin diversitas, linked to divert, the act of pulling in different directions, tearing apart).

Is what he is saying racial? Sure, however that does not automatically translate to "racist". The word racist originally came from bolsheviks (communist) who used the word as a form of emotional appeal from which criticism can be deflected. If you criticize X then you get called racist as it would silence the criticism. Want to move into a foreign land? If they don't want you, you call them racist in order to influence their behavior. Its all based on emotional appeal, not reason or logic. Stalin said ideas are more dangerous than guns, and he is right to some extent, in so much that ideas require words to spread them. Control the words, and you control thought. Control thought, and you control behavior.
To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

In later years the word racism has tried to be more clearly defined, so they started saying it is "prejudice + power". This implies that only those with the power cannot be prejudice. But what is prejudice? In this context it is an irrational attitude resulting the negative judgement or opinion of another. The problem with using prejudice and attaching negative connotation to it is that most of the time people actually have a rational reason for their attitude, thus it is not irrational. As for power? Well if I fly to Japan, and its a nation of Japanese people... who do you think is logically going to have the power? The Japanese of course. Should I expect to have just as much power as them in their own nation? Of course not. In Japan you can even find shops that say "japanese people only", meaning they won't serve you if you are not japanese. Is this bad? Not really, its their nation. They feel they have a reason for it, thus to them it is justified. Just because I would be a minority would not give me the right to tell them otherwise. In the same vein, a lot of people end up traveling into Europe (which is for the europeans) and use words like "racism" as a form of emotional appeal, to take away the power while implying irrational prejudice.

Logically speaking, if a bunch of X were not allowed into Europe, many rapes and murders would have been prevented, yet such logical conclusions are being told to be ignored because of one word, "racist" which serves no other purpose than to appeal to emotion (not reason, nor logic). The solution is simple, the prevention methods are clear, but no one will do anything because they are scared of one word that only has emotional value.

Thus what I would like for you to do is remove it from your vocabulary and instead just make an argument thats based on reason and logic, rather than "weaponized words" that only appeal to sentiment and nothing else. This is reasonable, yes?

[Baby Schimmerlos]

The first is a typo its 50k not 500k

The second is backed up by leaked GERMAN GOV DOCUMENTS THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL RAPES WERE OVER 2000 AND THE GERMAN GOV COVERED IT UP...
2015/2016New Years

Feel free to actually check properly.

So do you think the fact the media and governments LIE to white people about how serious crimes are makes it better or worse?

No i just think, that you are one of those conspiracy theorists, whose only agenda is to use confirmation bias and made up "proofs" to push thier unjustified and wrong accusations.
None of the things you have stated are true.
Now, if you would kindly not spread your toxic waste outside of your mind, humanity would be very thankfull.

+1

[banghead]

I must say was reading all of that and the only thing i want to say, back to topic <3

i can understand, that this topic is like a big bright light in the dark swamp of moronmosquiotland attracting all the suckers


but please fix this and get us lore like argons and send these folks back to netflix studios or where they may come from *looks at above post* :*

[ZombiePotatoSalad]

You know, I'm finding more here about the race than the ships.

So, what's wrong with the ships? What's so bad about them?

[Tomonor]

You know, I'm finding more here about the race than the ships.

So, what's wrong with the ships? What's so bad about them?

It's too late for that now, the thread ripped off 'that' scar.

Besides, the current title was just a secondary edit for damage control, the original title and the original topic was only related to skin colour.

[Revenant342]

Black people: *exist*
This topic: "SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS REEEEEEE!!!"

[esd]

Locking this while I read it and see if ANY of it can be saved.

Ok, I've given it a read. This thread is going south, sinking off the bottom of the page like it deserves. Honestly, all this nonsense about SJWs, Muslim gangs, etc is simply not acceptable here. This is the forum of a space game. You want to talk that sort of nonsense, take it somewhere else.