[Script] TC Stock Exchange "The Evolution of a Financial Revolution" v4 Full Release.

[RyuKazuha]

What about preventing the Index from crashing and or rise instantly?

If the Index would crash more than 100 Points, (198 in Xans Example) it won't crash at once, but first go drop only half of the amount (200-99 = 101), some time later a quarter (101-49 = 52) and even later the last quarter (52-49 = 3).

This wouldn't destroy normal stock fluctuations, not even as scam like that, but it would take more time, time for the economy to counterbalance the demand.

[mark_a_condren]

How does this look ?

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No, no US IRS. But You may in future have to fill out an ATO Overseas investment declaration and pay tax on any profits earned. (ATO = Australian Taxation Office)

As for slowing the drop of the index over time, the coding involved in this becomes quite extensive when you factor in that you have to monitor every ware at every exchange. I think i'll look for an aternative method than that at first. Thanks for the suggestion though and i'll keep it in mind.

MarCon

[RyuKazuha]

Looks really good.

I'll fill my evening with some experiments on the Corporation Index. Hrhrhr.

[XanII]

Looks good. Just ran my eyes through the wording and yes it does look like the fees listing is now in such words that you can 'at a glance' figure out how much fees you pay and what the net sum is. Problem solved i say.

Crashing and Booming of the index in such a way is indeed unrealistic, in real world when a company tells they made a super deal or warns of losses the hit on stock can be +20 or -20 instantly, then it evens out as people 'sell to grab their winnings'. Though the story would perhaps be different if people would actualy see the index like that in real life.

Such index drops and highs has not been seen since napoleonic wars.

[XanII]

The more i use this the less i like the basic commodity trading. Havent done any 'scams' now anymore. But i dont think very highly of frontrunning orders either. I mostly place 'honest, i think someone will soon buy all the 200mj shields' -type of bets.

Gamble more with corporate indexes now.

Not sure what would make the commodity trading work. Does those stations that are counted into the index have a bank account? somehow the profit you make should be counted as how much items pass through there, like first there is 0 200mj shields, then there is 4, then they get sold out too and stock is 0, however station bank account shows that they were actualy sold and not just transfered between stock and ship cargo.

Hmm....

[mark_a_condren]

NPC stations always have a bank account of 2,000,000,000 credits updated by the game engine very regularly. So you can't see by that if the wares were sold or transfered.

Unfortunatly the system used by stock exchange is not perfect, it is however, the best i've come up with so far.


MarCon

[XanII]

Dang. cant get over it that way either.

Well in that case i guess the best remedy is to make those scam blocks to work. Though the scam gets old so quickly. I prefer to exploit nividium instead and fool around with other stock types.

[vukica]

Played this script(s) for a couple of days and it is really great!
But there are a few things that would make it even better, if I may suggest...

1.) Additional stock(different type) that once bought gives dividend payout. That would be great for corporations that don't bounce around much.
2.) There has too be more risk to it. You buy at min price and there is no risk, you can only gain. that's not really cool.

[RyuKazuha]

If you want more risk, buy company shares at Buying Index 50.

[XanII]

^ Aye. Normal corporate index stocks even at close 100 can be risky. Remember: if you cant extract your capital and are forced to sell on loss or you just hang on to the money = it counts as a loss imho.


Meanwhile...

Just bought shares in Terran Space. Point Singularity Projectors. 70 mil.

And now im holding my breath how this ends.

No exploiting intended. i really do NEED 8xPSP for my Osaka so i dispatched my ships to collect as many as i can find but... well. This will be interesting how much this yields.

Not doing any mosquito missile scams. Might be easy money but i prefer to make atleast semi-honestly trades. the PSP might be front running but hey, this is not cheating. i am ordering something that costs me the shirt even if no stocks would be involved.

[mark_a_condren]

vukica

1) There will be dividends for stocks held over a longer period (1 game day) in the next version. Besides that i have no current plans for other dividend type shares.

2) Artificially manipulating commondity prices is not something i'm interested in doing so i can't see a way of making them more risky atm. As for the other share types, as RyuKazuha said, buy at 50. There are things i could do i suppose but no plans wright atm.

I've taken a break from scripting on this and Universal banking for a little bit, some of the content for them both was starting to drive me nuts trying to get it right, and as there was no game breaking bugs in the current release, i've taken the break. If i didn't i think i was just going to walk away from the whole script. I spent too much time on it and had burnt myself out and it was turning into a labour of hate. That was never going to produce a good script. So i'll return to is shortly, but by all means keep the ideas and suggestions coming, a fresh perspective is sometimes all that's needed.

Thanks for the feedback, and you may always suggest ... then we'll see.

EDIT:
XanII
Can you let me know how that 8 X PSP trade goes please.


MarCon

[Idea]

I've taken a break from scripting on this and Universal banking for a little bit, some of the content for them both was starting to drive me nuts trying to get it right, and as there was no game breaking bugs in the current release, i've taken the break. If i didn't i think i was just going to walk away from the whole script. I spent too much time on it and had burnt myself out and it was turning into a labour of hate. That was never going to produce a good script. So i'll return to is shortly, but by all means keep the ideas and suggestions coming, a fresh perspective is sometimes all that's needed.

I know what you mean.Sometimes I can't start 3dsMax for month or two.Take your time and enjoy in life.We will be here

Cheers

[vukica]

vukica

1) There will be dividends for stocks held over a longer period (1 game day) in the next version. Besides that i have no current plans for other dividend type shares.

2) Artificially manipulating commondity prices is not something i'm interested in doing so i can't see a way of making them more risky atm. As for the other share types, as RyuKazuha said, buy at 50. There are things i could do i suppose but no plans wright atm.

I've taken a break from scripting on this and Universal banking for a little bit, some of the content for them both was starting to drive me nuts trying to get it right, and as there was no game breaking bugs in the current release, i've taken the break. If i didn't i think i was just going to walk away from the whole script. I spent too much time on it and had burnt myself out and it was turning into a labour of hate. That was never going to produce a good script. So i'll return to is shortly, but by all means keep the ideas and suggestions coming, a fresh perspective is sometimes all that's needed.

Thanks for the feedback, and you may always suggest ... then we'll see.

EDIT:
XanII
Can you let me know how that 8 X PSP trade goes please.


MarCon

That answer is more than i hoped for 1 day seems like a fair amount of time.
I understand your position on backing off from any pile of code. Sometimes it just gets ugly and evil and you never want to compile it again...

Another idea to make things more risky... much simpler than the one in my previous post.
You could simply forbid buying the stock unless it's buying index is over ... some fair number. say... 75 or 80... that would definitely add a little spice to the whole thing. And is quite easy to implement. You only enable the buy button if the stock has a proper index. You can call that a "Monopoly prevention law".

Again, I must say that I really like Evolution of Financial Revolution and hope to see more from it in the future.

p.s. when entering stock amount there should be added something more simple to buy/sell all. instead typing the number 365000 you could type some keyword like "all" or simply "a" or any letter really.

[mark_a_condren]

vukica


I have taken your suggestions 'under advisement'.

Also,

p.s. when entering stock amount there should be added something more simple to buy/sell all. instead typing the number 365000 you could type some keyword like "all" or simply "a" or any letter really.

There is already the 'all' option when selling, would you like to see this as a 'buy' option as well? select it and you buy all you can afford or if using 'limit available shares', the max shares available?

MarCon

[XanII]

I think manual typing of the numbers is good. Prevents you from hitting enter twice and loosing all your money. Whoops. Especialy when dealing with high-tech weapons you can literaly loose your whole bank account.

The case with the PSP guns is till on going. Reason: the transports are moving soooo slow. takes ages to reach those stations with TS/TP ships that can carry those huge PSP guns.

But it will be interesting. My faith in this is faltering. there seems to be more weapons available than i can find on the map so somewhere there is supply that i dont know. And by removing the 8 from the supply im not so sure if i can turn a profit. i still have the comissions activated.

Great script btw mark, even if you would get completely bored with this then it's fine. This is 'working' already as it is. It might not have the 100% working scam protection or fully detailed reports. so what, all that you need to do works and it gives you the option to gamle with your money. I use this all the time and it's now part of routines. I think the 'difficulty' of using this is just right.

[mark_a_condren]

But it will be interesting. My faith in this is faltering. there seems to be more weapons available than i can find on the map so somewhere there is supply that i dont know. And by removing the 8 from the supply im not so sure if i can turn a profit. i still have the comissions activated.

It might not have the 100% working scam protection

It may not be 100%, but it is working ... yes that's a hint

Great script btw mark, even if you would get completely bored with this then it's fine. This is 'working' already as it is.

Not bored, just didn't want to get to the stage i didn't want to work on it any more. There are still things to be added and improvements to be made yet.

I think manual typing of the numbers is good. Prevents you from hitting enter twice and loosing all your money.

You can still enter more than the amount of shares there are or more than you can afford, but there are checks to correct this. So if you can afford 1324 shares and you just go 999999999 on the key pad, it will still only come up the max you can buy of 1324. If you go over the max it defaults to the max.

Have faith, work will continue on the script. Atm im working on the updated MSCI Reference, what i learn from doing that may also help in future scripting efforts. So hopefully it will be a win win situation.

Thanks for the reports, i'm still interested in how the PSP transaction works out.

MarCon

[vukica]

vukica


I have taken your suggestions 'under advisement'.

Also,

p.s. when entering stock amount there should be added something more simple to buy/sell all. instead typing the number 365000 you could type some keyword like "all" or simply "a" or any letter really.

There is already the 'all' option when selling, would you like to see this as a 'buy' option as well? select it and you buy all you can afford or if using 'limit available shares', the max shares available?

MarCon

yeah, that's what i thought. I really have no idea why i wrote sell since i use that option all the time.

[XanII]

Thanks for the reports, i'm still interested in how the PSP transaction works out.

MarCon

Results are in. This time i couldnt beat the system.

http://limetti.com/images/X3TC/x3screen00013.jpg

Here is the end result just before 'cashing in'. As stated i removed 8 from inventory and was hoping to score some bucks. The numbers show a nice 3,6mil as profit.

However i paid full price for 2x3 PSP:s. (i bought the remaining 3 from 2 different stations at top price).

Also deduct the 5% comission and the end sum is just barely above buying price and because i paid premium for some of the PSPs i am now taking a loss.

I cant even find those remaining PSPs anywhere so getting them wont solve much either.

[mark_a_condren]

XanII

I cant even find those remaining PSPs anywhere so getting them wont solve much either.

They are there, just not where you are looking (hint)

Your getting around the insider trading check with some of it due to a built in safety, but it's still getting you on some of the PSP's. Which in this case was enought to make any insider trading attempt not pay off. It still needs some adjustments though, as some of your other trades you have reported you have got away with it clean.

MarCon

[lettuceman44]

This just adds another dynamic element to the universe!

Quick question, what is Universal Banking? I did a google search and it just gave me this topic