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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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No it is the Centaur.

We have only seen 6 M combat ships , with 3 unseen ships likely in game.
Corvettes : Centaur, Osprey, Nemesis
Frigates : Cerberus, Shrike*, Deimos*
Bombers : Minotaur, Peregrine, Hades*
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:16
X-Raptor wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 16:30
13913408324 wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 13:01 4 M-size Combat Ships per race!?Why are you so sure?
I'm not sure, but now I think there might be only 3 M-size Combat Ships per race (not 4). :P I thought that ship is another Argon Frigate (other than the Cerberus) but it turned out to be the Teladi Osprey! :wink:

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However, isn't that ship is a fourth frigate (other than the Cerberus, Osprey and Nemesis)? :?
That's probably just the Cerberus and the fighter on top is likely the Elite.
The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nova, which you can tell for yourself by the identical cockpit/fuselage to other images of the Nova we’ve seen.
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 18:11
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:16
X-Raptor wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 16:30
I'm not sure, but now I think there might be only 3 M-size Combat Ships per race (not 4). :P I thought that ship is another Argon Frigate (other than the Cerberus) but it turned out to be the Teladi Osprey! :wink:

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However, isn't that ship is a fourth frigate (other than the Cerberus, Osprey and Nemesis)? :?
That's probably just the Cerberus and the fighter on top is likely the Elite.
The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nova, which you can tell for yourself by the identical cockpit/fuselage to other images of the Nova we’ve seen.
This is the Nova

It was specifically called that in one of the QA vids. 2 weapons, WW1 style double wings and side mounted engines.

that ship

The fighter on top has 5 guns (2-2 on each end of the wings, 1 under the cockpit), a different wing and back mounted main engines
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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This confirms there are some kind of large fighters with 4 or 5 guns.
So this is not an M ship at all.
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You all are not so accurate! :roll::
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:16 That's probably just the Cerberus and the fighter on top is likely the Elite.
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:04 that ship

The fighter on top has 5 guns (2-2 on each end of the wings, 1 under the cockpit), a different wing and back mounted main engines
That ship is the Cerberus, you're probably right. Although the fighter on top of it is the Eclipse, not the Nova nor the Elite. :P
Geek wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:24 No it is the Centaur.
Not exactly, it is the Cerberus as I said, because if corvettes have docking pads then what's this ship and that one? :roll: Both seem they don't have landing pads! :wink:
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 18:11 The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nova, which you can tell for yourself by the identical cockpit/fuselage to other images of the Nova we’ve seen.
Not exactly, lol, it's quite similar to the Nova but this is because it is the Eclipse, but it's not the Nova. :P It has 4 (or 5) guns and looks heavier than the Nova! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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X-Raptor wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:39 You all are not so accurate! :roll::
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:16 That's probably just the Cerberus and the fighter on top is likely the Elite.
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:04 that ship

The fighter on top has 5 guns (2-2 on each end of the wings, 1 under the cockpit), a different wing and back mounted main engines
That ship is the Cerberus, you're probably right. Although the fighter on top of it is the Eclipse, not the Nova nor the Elite. :P
The last time you asked what would be the Eclipse, now you think this is certain? :lol:

It's going to be fun to see how wrong this list is next week. :rofl:
Geek wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:33 This confirms there are some kind of large fighters with 4 or 5 guns.
So this is not an M ship at all.
The dock underneath it has an orange outline which I recall being there for M docks not S docks. This was the main reason I thought it's M in the SotD thread.

Here you can see both, M dock orange outline, S dock none:
https://youtu.be/Hk4pPuC3GjA?t=3017

And the Peregrin, Behemoth have 2 frontal weapons, doesn't make them S. Frontal weapon number is variable between subclasses. Corvettes will likely have more frontal weapons than frigates and bombers.
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csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:46 The last time you asked what would be the Eclipse, now you think this is certain? :lol:

It's going to be fun to see how wrong this list is next week. :rofl:
Lol yeah, when I asked what would be the Eclipse, I didn't know there are 4 variants for S Combat Ships (thought they are only 3) but that Screenshot of the Paranid Theseus introduced a 4th variant, then I said the Eclipse must be the Argon fourth one! :) :roll:

Oh and for how wrong this list is next week..., well, I said from the beginning that the list is speculations (ships marked with *) and it might not be 100% accurate. And I've said I shall regularly update it the more info we get.

Guys I meant to give a picture of how X4 Ships are even before the release of the game! :|
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:46 And the Peregrin, Behemoth have 2 frontal weapons, doesn't make them S. Frontal weapon number is variable between subclasses. Corvettes will likely have more frontal weapons than frigates and bombers.
Frontal guns just seem someting all warships have (except maybe carriers)
All M/L/XL warships have turrets and docks for smaller ships. Where are they ?
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I think it's probably an M-ship too. I think the M category just has tons of internal diversity. It holds baby capital ships like Cerberus/Osprey, corvette-y bomber-y things like Peregrine and the Argon one, and what looks like super fighters. Not to mention freighters and miners.
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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Geek wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 20:23
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:46 And the Peregrin, Behemoth have 2 frontal weapons, doesn't make them S. Frontal weapon number is variable between subclasses. Corvettes will likely have more frontal weapons than frigates and bombers.
Frontal guns just seem someting all warships have (except maybe carriers)
All M/L/XL warships have turrets and docks for smaller ships. Where are they ?
How many turrets and docks the Skunk had? :-P
It's an M ship and was brought up in the first QA.
And the Peregrin and the Argon bomber (Minotaur was it?) don't have docks either.
Plus in one of the screenshots the same ship has 5 of the chainguns the Peregrin had equipped in one of the videos.
X-Raptor wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 20:12
Guys I meant to give a picture of how X4 Ships are even before the release of the game! :|
We perfectly understand it's just friendly fun poking. :roll:
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So we have the L-Class Behemoth, but is there any news on whether we might have an XL-Class Titan?
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csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:04 This is the Nova

It was specifically called that in one of the QA vids. 2 weapons, WW1 style double wings and side mounted engines.

that ship

The fighter on top has 5 guns (2-2 on each end of the wings, 1 under the cockpit), a different wing and back mounted main engines
X-Raptor wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 19:39 You all are not so accurate! :roll::

Not exactly, lol, it's quite similar to the Nova but this is because it is the Eclipse, but it's not the Nova. :P It has 4 (or 5) guns and looks heavier than the Nova! :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
See, when I said "The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nova, which you can tell for yourself by the identical cockpit/fuselage to other images of the Nova we’ve seen," I did not mean that the identical cockpit/fuselage are the confirmation. Rather, they are evidence that we players might use to establish that no strict confirmation is needed.

Based on the way we've seen ships named on the map, we can reasonably induce that ships in X4 will have variants similar to X3's vanguard/hauler/etc. variants, which also had variant models. Now, I think we can all agree that this is unambiguously the Nova, yes? Compare it, then, to the fighter in question here. The wings are clearly different, but the part that fundamentally makes it a Nova, the cockpit/fuselage (see that callback there? :D ), are identical. Even the paint is the same. The only reasonable conclusion to draw is that they are both variants of the Nova.

Of course, none of that matters, because what I did mean when I said "The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nove" is that Egosoft said that it's a Nova.
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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 23:10 See, when I said "The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nova, which you can tell for yourself by the identical cockpit/fuselage to other images of the Nova we’ve seen," I did not mean that the identical cockpit/fuselage are the confirmation. Rather, they are evidence that we players might use to establish that no strict confirmation is needed.

Based on the way we've seen ships named on the map, we can reasonably induce that ships in X4 will have variants similar to X3's vanguard/hauler/etc. variants, which also had variant models. Now, I think we can all agree that this is unambiguously the Nova, yes? Compare it, then, to the fighter in question here. The wings are clearly different, but the part that fundamentally makes it a Nova, the cockpit/fuselage (see that callback there? :D ), are identical. Even the paint is the same. The only reasonable conclusion to draw is that they are both variants of the Nova.

Of course, none of that matters, because what I did mean when I said "The fighter has been confirmed to be a Nove" is that Egosoft said that it's a Nova.
You're probably right, it may be the Nova Sentinel then! :)
Well, when I first saw the Nova, I said "Only two guns?! And one of them is for missile launchers?!". But as you've pointed out, I now understand that there could be other Nova variants like that one that has more guns, so again you are most likely right! :wink:
csaba wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 17:16 That's probably just the Cerberus and the fighter on top is likely the Elite.
So, it looks like me and you weren't so accurate. :mrgreen:
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Solflame wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 23:02 So we have the L-Class Behemoth, but is there any news on whether we might have an XL-Class Titan?
It would be very cool to have XL-class Battleships like the Titan in X4, but the game may not have them at release, so if it doesn't, then hopefully Battleships could be added later perhaps! :)
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X-Raptor wrote: Wed, 21. Nov 18, 07:55
Solflame wrote: Tue, 20. Nov 18, 23:02 So we have the L-Class Behemoth, but is there any news on whether we might have an XL-Class Titan?
It would be very cool to have XL-class Battleships like the Titan in X4, but the game may not have them at release, so if it doesn't, then hopefully Battleships could be added later perhaps! :)
I’m betting a lot of ships still are under wraps. From the XL class we can only name the Colossus and the Atlas so far. Info on L class ships is also lacking. These classes were the most iconic and diverse in XR (partly due to the Skunk already being M so in relative terms those ships were the most visible) so I expect a lot of ships there as well.

I’d imagine something like an XL Titan would be a surprise and not spoiled before launch, so they don’t take the first contact wow (or fear :lol:) factor away.
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Re: X4 Ship List [without images]

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Believe it or not! I cannot confirm but I believe there are 4 M-Size Combat Ships (2 Frigates, 1 Corvette, and 1 Bomber), per Race! :)

Have another look.
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X-Raptor wrote: Sun, 25. Nov 18, 19:25 Believe it or not! I cannot confirm but I believe there are 4 M-Size Combat Ships (2 Frigates, 1 Corvette, and 1 Bomber), per Race! :)

Have another look.
I don't know how you came to this conclusion but 2 frigates would mean variants imo (vanguard, sentinel, raider) not proper subclasses.

We should know more in the coming days... I hope Ego releases at least 1 video before Friday.
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Xenon L confirmed. Same as XR in Hull. Weapons not certain yet.

Theseus confirmed. It's this one :https://www.egosoft.com/games/x4/screen ... en_071.png

Going to sleep now. Will update once the stream is available in video form. Unless somebody beats me to it.
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csaba wrote: Wed, 28. Nov 18, 22:52 Xenon L confirmed. Same as XR in Hull. Weapons not certain yet.

Theseus confirmed. It's this one :https://www.egosoft.com/games/x4/screen ... en_071.png
Good info, though I already knew the Theseus is that ship! but you've confirmed. :)

So... this is the latest and my best speculation for the Ship List. :idea:

However, it's not confirmed whether there are only 3 or maybe 4 (Ship Names) M Combat Ships per race, but I believe there might be 4 not just 3. This is a speculation which might be wrong!
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What we thought was the Vulture so far is actually the Teladi Tern.
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