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apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 02:39

Probably better if you do restart. There is a lot done on that second load, and its a do once type of thing. So if it doesnt get done then, it never will.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 07:52

Sigh, placed it as a false patch at the end.

Still getting this message:

"Station objects: not detected (mod is not installed) at index null."
Just complex cleaner tho...I will live.

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 07:56

What false patches are your using ? List them on numerical order. Then list the mod. Then the contents of any folder under addon.

Something has to be interferring with the mod.

Edit : Also, check in your game. In Argon Prime, do you see an Apricot Shipyard ?

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 09:01

Using MARS - #14
Then put AMS at #15

I didnt see the Apricot Shipyard at all.

I am deleting T-files, etc and will fresh install again. Will start with AMS and then add on from there to see whats going on.

Update: I checked the t-files of each mod/false patch and script that I used (the list I had before was correct) none appeared to conflict. Think it must have been something with the way I installed. heh.

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 09:07

Which game is this ? TC or AP ?

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 09:30

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 09:56

Theres your problem.

For AP the false patches go into addon as 03 and 04.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 10:00

Doh! lol I see you wrote that before but I was a bit confused.
That is still in the parent TC folder correct?

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 10:04

No.

TC\addon\03

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 10:20

Ah...totally making sense now....my failure has become clear. Almost done with the reset of my files here. Thanks for helping me gain a clear understanding. Was surprised to hear from ya so fast, or at all lol. Looking forward to getting this running.

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 10:23

I respond when I'm close to the computer. Thats a lot of the time, so quick response time.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 10:48

Success, again thanks!
Of course it would take a simple noob move like that sigh, I have learned!

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Thu, 15. Mar 12, 12:06

It usually is something simple.

That whole addon thing fools everyone for a bit.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 01:25

Ok now I realized another reason you responded so fast lol, your in my time zone. << Japan lol. Generally very few people are active on forums and such at the same time I am. Glad someone got you that copy of AP.

BTW everything works great except for some reason the FDN menu isnt showing up in my key selection. If I read correctly however, "thereshallbewings" is no longer necessary. Does it just take a little time (as in several re-loads) to boot up that script? I did notice that over several re-loads PM came around.

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 01:34

Gilgamec wrote:BTW everything works great except for some reason the FDN menu isnt showing up in my key selection. If I read correctly however, "thereshallbewings" is no longer necessary. Does it just take a little time (as in several re-loads) to boot up that script? I did notice that over several re-loads PM came around.

I'm not sure about the not necessary part. Plugin Manager integration with the steam version might suggest that its not, but if you dont instal any scripts using plugin manager, then the game may still need the SE turned on. In any case, I assume it may and get people to do so. Cant hurt to make sure.

FDN is an Artifical Life plugin. You need to turn it on in the AL menu first. Same with the rest of LA's stuff.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 01:41

I have the AL window with FDN, SSDN, and PM marked active, but the key bind in the controls has yet to pop. I started a new game and it did not load after the first save/reload. The PM option came up after a while, I thought maybe it was just a timed thing. I assume if PM came up, Thereshallnotbewings is not completely necessary.

I guess it cant hurt to try and see if that is the issue, but I didn't think it would show up in the AL options until SE is active.

Happy its Friday so I can go home and play with this all weekend

. The AMS start seems intriguing.

**Edit** after going back and reading the post where I believed turning on the editor was not necessary, I discovered that it said they fixed the typing delay, so there would be no more Thereshalbewings...not..that typing it itself is not necessary. Been in Japan too long...massive English fail.

/facepalm

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 01:56

There does seem to be an issue with AP, where some things just dont start when they are told to, then later switch on for no apparent reason.

I know that NPCBail seems to take ages to start. And Jump to derelict hotkey is there but doesnt work for a long time until suddenly working.

There is a pause in the game after a while, just like when you activate the SE, and this could be the game resetting itself and activating anything thats somehow not been switching on or was paused.

They changed the way the game stores hotkeys and commands for AP. It solved some problems they refused to admit were problems in TC, but it seems to be creating other ones.

At this point, I still think AP has bugs where hotkeys and commands are concerned. But since this is in modified territory, you cant present them in tech support as bugs, because they wont address anything to do with modified games. And of course, in vanilla, there are no added extra hotkeys or commands, so the problem cant occur.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 02:04

Yea I can tell its weird because the first time I installed (when I could not see your shipyards) I had full access to the FDN and SSDN and PM menus, yet after the fresh install and correctly installing the mod/false patches, I am down to PM....odd.

Still I will try the 'wings' and hopefully that fixes it all magically...that would be sweet.

apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 02:22

Gilgamec wrote:Yea I can tell its weird because the first time I installed (when I could not see your shipyards) I had full access to the FDN and SSDN and PM menus, yet after the fresh install and correctly installing the mod/false patches, I am down to PM....odd.

That is definitely a problem with the way they redid the hotkey and command storing, and multiple restarts.

They only get stored once. So when you do a game restart, they are already stored, so dont get created again. But because they dont get created, they dont get into the save, and so dont function in game. I suspect this is a problem with the steam implementation, and an assumption that a game start only happens once while the computer is on.

The only answer I've found is a power off of the computer between game starts.

Gilgamec · Post by **Gilgamec** » Fri, 16. Mar 12, 02:25

Huh, a very intriguing proposal. Thats very uber bugged of them. Like I said, the PM menu just randomly popped on (or I didnt notice it prior). Still I may try as you suggest as a last ditch effort.

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