[SCR] MARS Fire Control (v5.25 - 16.02.13)

Gazz · Post by **Gazz** » Sun, 17. Mar 13, 12:50

Do you have lasers on board?

Ranged66 · Post by **Ranged66** » Sun, 17. Mar 13, 15:22

I do, i have 2 PAC"s aboard. I am going to buy more
soon.

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 01:32

hello, I cant find the MARS system anywhere to buy. I read the FAQ and I dont have any text error in the game either. I checked a lot of equipement docks / stations. I play AP, downloaded with Steam in the X3 pack, nothing modded.

I installed it in steamapps/common/X3, so what is going wrong here ?

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 17:32

uh, anyone ?

I READ THE MANUAL, YES.

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 17:39

If MARS is installed properly then the ware should be in Equipment docks. It should be easy to find.

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 17:42

The French manual says that you have to buy the MARS system in any equipement dock. Like the combat command MkI, etc.

I can read the english manual and obviously the french traduction is not very accurate.

What do I have to do to activate MARS ?

edit : it is also in the English manual, I quote :
"Required equipment:
Motion Analysis Relay System (sold in nearly all equipment docks) "

I'm lost.

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 18:01

I must be incredibly stupid then. I installed it properly, did this 2 times, and nothing.

I saved/loaded my game to 'activate' the script. I followed all instructions, and still nothing.

Well, f** me I guess.

I quote again the 'manual' :
'MARS Menu / Configuration
• This should be set to a hotkey.
It controls practically all aspects of MARS, on your ship as well as on others.'

This 'should' be set to a hotkey ? How ? Where ? This is seriously over complicated.

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 18:01

Yeah, you're right. I just tried it: if MARS is installed correctly then you should find the ware at most equipment docks.

Do you see an Artificial Life plugin for MARS (controls use of MARS on NPC ships)? If not, then your installation is probably not complete.

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 18:05

The installation is only a .zip to extract in the root directory of the game !!!

I dont understand what could go wrong, and what is going wrong.

edit : to make sure, I installed it in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\X3 Terran Conflict'

I'm playing Albion Prelude.

I see there is another 'addon' folder in the X3 TC folder. Should I extract the zip there instead ?

edit 2 : When trying to find the MARS system, I was flying a Sciron ( M6 ). I visited like half of the equipement docks in the universe, at least. There is definitely not any MARS system to buy anywhere.

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 18:10

spacepimp wrote:I'm playing Albion Prelude.

I see there is another 'addon' folder in the X3 TC folder. Should I extract the zip there instead ?

Yes, that should do it. AP's "home" is in the addon folder, so scripts and mods should be added there (unless specific instructions say otherwise).

Enjoy!

spacepimp · Post by **spacepimp** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 18:16

DrBullwinkle wrote:
spacepimp wrote:I'm playing Albion Prelude.

I see there is another 'addon' folder in the X3 TC folder. Should I extract the zip there instead ?
Yes, that should do it. AP's "home" is in the addon folder, so scripts and mods should be added there (unless specific instructions say otherwise).

Enjoy!

Finally ! I should have try this before ! The Peace shall be delivered !

Thank you !

protip : maybe add this in the manual

?

Binesi · Post by **Binesi** » Thu, 21. Mar 13, 22:04

I tried this script a long time ago and I decided it balanced things too far in favor of capital ships to the point that fighters where a waste of money. Not fun when I'm such a carrier and missiles fan. However now I've tweaked things a bit with multiple scripts and it seems everything is working pretty well except when I go to collect crates. It seems having MARS active turns my turrets into 10km transporters that slurp up a whole zone of flying wares in seconds (when running the stock special command software).

I know this is an unresolved bug in the Smart Turrets script, but does MARS also have this problem? Or is it just something odd in my huge collection of running scripts? I'm not running Smart btw.. just remember uninstalling it because of that bug.

BTW: If you make a version for Rebirth I would love to see some of the turret target priority options like exist in AP. It is great to setup certain turrets to do something like missiles first, attack my target 2nd, attack fighters 3rd, etc. MARS is a bit too automatic for the control freak in me

Abraxis86 · Post by **Abraxis86** » Wed, 27. Mar 13, 22:45

Stupid question and sorry if it's been asked a million times before but...

if I want to use this for Albion Prelude, do i still just extract it to the Terran Conflict Folder like the installation instructions state or do I have to put it in the /Terran Conflict/addon folder instead?

Edit: After some research it would seem the answer is yes for the addon folder, but still unsure.

Gazz · Post by **Gazz** » Thu, 28. Mar 13, 00:09

The addon folder is AP's home folder.

Koritnaciino · Post by **Koritnaciino** » Tue, 2. Apr 13, 18:39

Hi Gazz, just questions about feautures.

Can we expect that MARS commands will be available also in global commands, fleet commands, wing commands?
Can we expect new command "attack shields" or capture ..? Yes I know that smart turrets have something like this but you know less numbers of scripts better.
Can we expect stop launching drones when start jump sequence?

Drusek · Post by **Drusek** » Sat, 6. Apr 13, 01:51

WHY WHY this stops shooting when target starts loosing its hull...

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Sat, 6. Apr 13, 01:59

Drusek wrote:WHY WHY this stops shooting when target starts loosing its hull... [?]

Page 5 of the manual?

Drusek · Post by **Drusek** » Tue, 9. Apr 13, 00:25

DrBullwinkle wrote:
Drusek wrote:WHY WHY this stops shooting when target starts loosing its hull... [?]
Page 5 of the manual?

Nope. I always have it on "destroy target". I never touch this anyway.
I have to use "set priority target" all the times.
What my turrets do:
1. Shoot at target(s).
2. When target's shield are down they wait a bit or engage other targets if there are any.
3. They shoot some more at the target until its down to less then 50% of hull.
4. They wait again or engage other targets.
5. Finally if I'm still alive they try to finish the target...

Raaaak · Post by **Raaaak** » Tue, 9. Apr 13, 11:42

I have the same problem, my guess is that MARS fires a salvo, bringing down the shields.
then starts looking for targets again, the enemy ship is now running away and is thus ignored in favour of something more interesting.

solution?

A) Get stronger weapons and one shot kill them.
B) Modify the script to prioritize targets where hull damage is likely. Even if hit probabilities are lower due to target evasive maneuvers.

I'd do B personally if I was any good at scripting.

Drusek · Post by **Drusek** » Thu, 11. Apr 13, 23:22

MARS is just ignoring targets now that lost their shields...
Look at the screenshot, after the Xenon I lost their shields my turrets started shooting other things... like M3 fighter!? I have circled my 'bullets'. Before that all 3 turrets (front, left and right) were shooting at Xenon I.
http://i.imgur.com/gXOZrNa.jpg
settings:
http://i.imgur.com/JiRLfbP.jpg

Edit: in 7054 file I have changed

Code: Select all

<t id="20230"> Priority bonus for being able to do hull damage. </t>
<t id="20230"> Stripping the shields off 6 ships does... a whole lotta nothing. </t>
<t id="20230"> Default = 50  </t>
<t id="20231">1000</t>

<- set this from 50 to 1000 and it seems to work - turrets keep shooting at targets after they lost shields

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