[Official] Behind the scenes

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 14:31

All bigger flames, eh? Sounds like Radiant Heaven just got crispy

Post by **linolafett** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 14:33

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:All bigger flames, eh? Sounds like Radiant Heaven just got crispy

Bingo

Artean · Post by **Artean** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 14:59

Great additions, Lino! But where's our flame thrower?

Post by **Ketraar** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 15:16

Artean wrote:Great additions, Lino! But where's our flame thrower?

Built-in a guitar that powers your ship.

MFG

Ketraar

PilotsBallad · Post by **PilotsBallad** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 16:09

linolafett wrote:A nice little feature was added for us artists to play around with: Damage areas.

We can now define hitboxes in which all objects recieve damage.
I added to all (big enough) engines damage areas. When you see an engineflame and fly into it, you recieve constant damage. It will kill you if you do not move away in a certain amount of time.
When a ship is stopped and the engines are off, you do not recieve damage of course.

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The hitbox for the damage area is marked in green.

I also added damage areas to all bigger flames visible in the game. If you see fire, do not fly trough it anymore or at least, do it quick!

Wow, very nice! I can see how this will change combat and especially boarding quite a bit.

I might answer my own question, but here I go anyway: seeing as you state that all objects receive damage
from the flames, will that include boarding pods? It would make it very difficult to avoid casualties
if that is going to be the case.

BigBANGtheory · Post by **BigBANGtheory** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 16:23

Can you make the wrecks break up? The capitalship explosions are very good but the remaining wreck doesnt really look right in its complete form.

Post by **linolafett** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 16:23

It will destroy boarding pods in a blink of an eye! Hack the ship to disable it from moving or just destroy the engines.

EDIT:

BigBANGtheory wrote:Can you make the wrecks break up? The capitalship explosions are very good but the remaining wreck doesnt really look right in its complete form.

No i cant. The game uses the LOD0 as collision mesh. We just replace the visual mesh with the wreck, therefore the geometry can not vastly differ from this LOD0.

PilotsBallad · Post by **PilotsBallad** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 16:51

linolafett wrote:It will destroy boarding pods in a blink of an eye! Hack the ship to disable it from moving or just destroy the engines.

Oh boy, I'll have to increase the pay for my cannon fodder then ... will destroyed turrets also trigger damage?

strude · Post by **strude** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 17:27

linolafett wrote:... or just destroy the engines.

Don't the engines (and jump drive) need to be destroyed before boarding pods will launch anyway?

Post by **linolafett** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 17:27

Destroyed surface elements will not have a damagearea, so that is save

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 17:46

strude wrote:
linolafett wrote:... or just destroy the engines.
Don't the engines (and jump drive) need to be destroyed before boarding pods will launch anyway?

That's what I was thinking too. Unless an Engineer happens to repair a historically damaged engine just after the pods launch, the target's engines should not be alive while pods are in flight. The engine's of other capitals could potentially be alive and close by however.

DJ0JJ · Post by **DJ0JJ** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 19:44

A little offtopic question here but where I can get the song of the Teladi Outpost intro?
I saw it on youtube but downloading audio from youtube its not good.

Post by **Tamina** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 20:26

Sparky Sparkycorp wrote:
strude wrote:
linolafett wrote:... or just destroy the engines.
Don't the engines (and jump drive) need to be destroyed before boarding pods will launch anyway?
That's what I was thinking too. Unless an Engineer happens to repair a historically damaged engine just after the pods launch, the target's engines should not be alive while pods are in flight. The engine's of other capitals could potentially be alive and close by however.

Imagine you just launched your pods, they try to land und suddenly another capital ship boosts through the ship (as it happens sometimes with pathfinding currently) and all your pods are crushed.

Anyways, small addition with a neat small positive gameplay effect

Maybe besides boarding and making fire a little bit more immersive this can be used interestingly in other areas, too.

PilotsBallad · Post by **PilotsBallad** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 20:32

linolafett wrote:Destroyed surface elements will not have a damagearea, so that is save

Thanks for saving the life of my crew before they even engaged the enemy.

DJ0JJ wrote:A little offtopic question here but where I can get the song of the Teladi Outpost intro?
I saw it on youtube but downloading audio from youtube its not good.

You can extract the audio file directly from your game with the official X Rebirth Modding Tools.
Open the Catalog Tool and import the ext_01.cat. You can find the catalog file here:

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{your game directory}\extensions\ego_dlc_teladi_outpost\

It should contain six .xwma files, which are the tracks that were added with the Teladi Outpost DLC.
Most music players can't read these files, so you might want to look up how you can convert it to the .wav format.

MegaJohnny · Post by **MegaJohnny** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 20:55

If this comes in a patch I hope someone makes a melee weapon for the Skunk.

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Mon, 7. Sep 15, 21:37

linolafett wrote:It will destroy boarding pods in a blink of an eye! Hack the ship to disable it from moving or just destroy the engines.

EDIT:
BigBANGtheory wrote:Can you make the wrecks break up? The capitalship explosions are very good but the remaining wreck doesnt really look right in its complete form.
No i cant. The game uses the LOD0 as collision mesh. We just replace the visual mesh with the wreck, therefore the geometry can not vastly differ from this LOD0.

I agree with BigBANGtheory that the current wrecks are a little too close to the undamaged model. Maybe keep the same general shape of the ship, but remove large(r) chunks from it? There are already sizable pieces of hull that fly off as part of the explosion effect; I'd expect them to have come somewhere on the ship.

I'd be okay if you have to fudge things, and large craters and holes in the visual model aren't reflected in collisions.

Post by **Aken_Bosch** » Tue, 8. Sep 15, 12:11

Veeery nice, something sorely missed in the flight/fight mechanics (for me at least)

Just a thing I'd like to ask...aside from the damage received, would it be possible to also have some clear visual/audio clue? I'm thinking about some shuddering of the cockpit (if it could be more or less pronounced depending on the distance from the exhausts it would be great), accompanied by the usual creaking/metallic sounds, a text notification or even better Betty's warning about engine wash...

I'm mostly thinkin about how the engine wash was implemented in the good old Freespace (also, chipping away directly the hull together with shields), back there you really had to worry if you happened to get in the way of some capital engine in the middle of a fight!

Post by **Sparky Sparkycorp** » Tue, 8. Sep 15, 12:27

I think Egosoft ill have seen it but for related ideas, there is the MIS: Hot Engines mod.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=367766

Gligli · Post by **Gligli** » Wed, 9. Sep 15, 12:10

What about exploding vessels? I' didn't make explode one recently

And I never could figure out if the radius damage (when Isha ask to leave quickly) did never affect me at that time.

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Wed, 9. Sep 15, 21:19

Capital ship explosions do deal damage; the damage radius is just very small compared to the visual explosion effect.

I don't think I've ever been caught in one since they're so easy to avoid. But I've seen many NPC fighters destroyed by large ships detonating themselves.

Curiously enough, containers dropped by capitals are released the moment its hull reaches zero, and before the explosion takes place. Yet those containers never seem to be destroyed by the blast. I'm guessing that's intentional otherwise it'd confuse and frustrate players.