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Reapers Passage thoughts so far?

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No probs Paranoid, as I said; you have a greater understanding of the characters motives. And your explanation does clear up some of the circumstances.

As for the characters being pushed along by forces beyond their control.. doesn't everybody get that. One can't control fate, eventually we all get taken to places we weren't intending to go.
Maybe it's part of lifes duality, we feel like we're both in control and having no control of lifes events. Slipping through ones fingers :mrgreen:

Now get back to writing the next chapter j/k :P :wink: :D
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Snowship wrote:No probs Paranoid, as I said; you have a greater understanding of the characters motives. And your explanation does clear up some of the circumstances.
Actually - thanks - you made me think twice about the filter of my own perception, I think suicide has been a bit too much on my mind not to mention irrationalities. Which has given birth to the slipping in of a little extra [thankfully mini] sub plot (see next Chapter when finished). I always say nothing is made out of nothing - something one of my old tutors was always saying which kind of proves the point!

Showing my age had to look up j/k I thought for a moment it was some obscure reference to the author love her or hate her. :)
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Reapers Passage Chaper 119 posted

Tuesday 8th Apr 08

What can I say not so many to go. :o This one flowed out rather nicely - so I will probably find lots of typos to fix - when I reread it! Hope you enjoy, I think it is rather amusing myself!

All Comments Appreciated as Ever. :D
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nice semi-eulogy there for Fey Paranoid :wink:

Damn, and some action is next chapter :shock:
Hope Tur doesn't get ahold of the Combat bot, that'd be bad news for all :mrgreen:
didn't get how Dans clean-up is not bugging Wiki...

Anyway, can't wait til the next one :D
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Snowship wrote:didn't get how Dans clean-up is not bugging Wiki...
You have confused me with this sentence perhaps you could elaborate a little?

Wiki was despatched By the - Federal Argon President - and the Senate. A poor political move in Danna's eyes one that ignored his wishes, Wiki was planning to go in heavy help stir trouble up with the assistance of Fay on the LOOSE (getting rid of her at the same time) - then crush it - try to clean Aladna Hill out once, and for all even if it meant creating another full on colonial civil war - which it probably would! Wiki isn't really the subtle type the LOOSE scheme was Svens. However, Ban see's The Hill as a useful tool, and that sort of heavy handed action more trouble than it is worth!

But if you were eluding to something else please explain?
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I meant the character "Linus" he arrived on the Lost for words to clean up the mess.
Now I'm thinking he's a actual person, but in the way you worded it he could be a AI.

Just thought he'd be bugging General Wiki as part of his cleaning up duties :?

That help?
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Snowship wrote:I meant the character "Linus"
lol for once not enough description on my part [now corrected] Linus is indeed a real person not an AI! He certainly will be looking at the General but as far as he knows for the moment that one is tied up in quarantine and rather neutered by the locals.

Linus is playing catch up in many ways - doing ten different things at once - really he is more concerned with replacing Fay, and preventing a LotD mutiny should word of the Fortresses destruction leak out to the troops before he has a plan to deal with the loss of the Incentive Laboratory! :o

Linus believes Fay - just killed herself - he doesn't know about the LOOSE yet! Thus he thinks the rest of the Navy staff are locked down with the Army boys but reasonably safe!

WI knows a lot more than it is letting on but unable to share, it is just trying to keep the others - calm - because it detected the LOOSE!

As to bugging the General largely he was seen as a blunt predictable opponent and Fay - was on the scene - to keep an eye on him! Almost all transmissions in and out of the TL are being blocked except by direct cable connections (Traffic Control) umbilicals housed in the docking pad.

NOTE - The Devils claim that sympathisers had bugged the ship is BS he was hooked in via BANE, and a very effective direct line in Traffic Control System Hack into the Shuttles central computer, and beyond, but he hardly wanted to give that fact away to Raharaha! :D

As ever lots of misinformed people, and professional liars in my story! Trust no one! P66 :D
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Reapers Passage Chapter 120 posted

Friday 11th April 08

Yes, it is all coming to a rapid close now. :o So is it sigh's of relief or calls for more? Thinking about all that serious proofing editing and consolidation that needs doing ouch!

Also I am thinking I would like to completely rework the prologue so that it is more fitting to the entire piece not just about G.

Lots of rewriting when I have that last Chapter (which really must be the next one) - just tidying up - thought maybe a more structured sequel after X3TC comes out if I have the time, and it can be made it fit what does anyone think?

Always thought this one might end in a big space battle but guess it wasn't to be! I kept making specific endings in advance than breaking them.

As ever all comments appreciated. :D
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Interesting developments.
and yes definately only one chapter to go by the looks of it...
...maybe Tur's exposure can be something for another story :wink:
aswell as Anna's mum's story :idea:

For a little while there I thought Ploopy was one of the abducted borons :o Luckily he wasn't and looks like he's getting a bigger empire :D . Betcha the split won't like that :lol:

It'll be good to see the planned future for the AF4 group.
of and don't forget to get the Wolf outa there :)

Can't wait.

Good writing there Paranoid :D
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The next one will be the last Chapter in this particular run, but it will still be left rather open for a second potential future book so to speak.

I am hoping after the next chapter I might get some more feedback here on the whole - benighted thing - information I might be able to take forward to the full stories edit, and rewrite, not to mention extra heavy polish!

Things I would like to address...

-rework the prologue so that it is a proper introduction to the story arc.
-trim repetition caused by the serial posts.
-chapter length sections will be amalgamated into proper sized chapters
-label consistency for example the 'Lost For Words' not 'the Lost For Words' or 'The Lost For Words' lol.
-missed typos, and dodgy grammar (will likely need help with this).
-more people things going on in the background outside of the characters (external window dressing).
-check the characters for a little more consistency and uniqueness.
-going to go to these (") instead of (') for speech as I have decided it will aid clarity.
-a little less waffle, and trim those convoluted, confused sentences except when people are supposed to be losing it - as much as myself!
-then get some sleep! :D

Of course talk as they say is cheap!
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Paranoid66 wrote:-then get some sleep! :D
Oh I think you'll need sleep before you get all of the above done :wink: :lol:

I was going to give a greater/final/full review obviously after the final chapter.
And I'll try to add suggestions on the above points and more....

Although I see namings as : the Lost For Words. Rather than a ship called The Lost For Words.... Now what ship has "The" in it's title.
I see it as you're naming the ship rather than having a descriptive as part of its name :o
Unless you want a "Alice in Wonderland" descriptive naming convention :D
That's just my opinion of course.

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Snowship I think I might need the sleep and therapy, but I'm sure it will still be keeping me up at night.

A final full review would be much appreciated those are some good pointers already - which shows how I have gotten far too close to the project. It is good to step back listen, debate, and discuss!

I had trouble deciding with the 'The' one which is probably why it changed a lot. I think I must have been thinking of 'The Commitments' sort of thing just 'Commitments' wouldn't seem right lol or was it 'the Commitments' or the 'Commitments' then there is the 'Legion of the Damned' LotD I guess not 'The Legion of the Damned'!

Other things like 'comm' rather than 'com' 'Inter Link' rather than 'Inter-Link' or 'INTER-Link' I tried lots of stuff out for size, but will probably go for what is the most straight forward, and obvious (why did I bother) still I suppose it was just a little experimentation?

What I think did work was: FAITH for the Clone, BANE for the Upload, and KHAAK for the Minion as a means of distinction.

I did kind of like the added emphasis of The but in relation to ship names I'm sure you are right, the 'Titanic' not 'The Titanic' hmmmmm! Need to edit my example already. :D

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Reapers Passage Chapter 121 posted

Monday 14th Apr 08

**That completes the current story arc**

Originally I was going to move things on a bit more at the end but decided not to do this partially because the game tends to squeeze so much into just a few days and with X3TC on the horizon.

Of course I will now be working for a time on sorting out all the niggles I have with it in preparation for making a pdf so my work on this one in some ways is only just beginning! Once again thanks for the support even if you are just lurking, and reading!

So if you have any comments - now - really is the time to scream out and be heard - yes even criticisms lol! :D
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I enjoyed reading it. The lack of punctuation conveyed a sense of urgency especially in combat descriptions, while the more convoluted passages made me stop and think about the meaning of your words (not a bad thing).
I felt the frequent namechanges were somwhat confusing though.
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tiamdal wrote:I enjoyed reading it. The lack of punctuation conveyed a sense of urgency especially in combat descriptions, while the more convoluted passages made me stop and think about the meaning of your words (not a bad thing).
I felt the frequent namechanges were somwhat confusing though.
Thanks tiamdal - glad you enjoyed it - I'll take your comments into account along with all the others when / if the folks stop lurking lol!

On the punctuation front it is either too much or too little with me. I may well have got carried away on the name change front - especially at certain points in the story - something for me to look at!
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I cant belive this has ended! I loved this story i really did, get for escapism with a beautifully detailed background, clear distinct characters, varided locations, action, the plot twisting like a cork screw and the food for thought this gave me. a great read my friend and i look to hearing more from you. that all being said i do have a few niggles. the way you use your language can sometimes be quite confusing and in somecases im afriad made little sence. of the top of my head i cant think of an exact quote but i rember that it caused me some frustation because the bulk of the story was so brilliant. i really must give you kudos on your quick delivery, i have never seen an online fan-fic grow so quickly! a great read and i cant wait till your next project! in the mean time however enjoy your sleep :D
(ps sorry for anyspelling mistakes.. dislexia is a pain and i dont have the time for a spell check :( )
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Congratulations on finishing this fine story Paranoid

I hope you feel some pride in the accomplishment cause you've done well and it's very worthy of the reading. :D

My impressions;
Again, overall it's an in-depth and interesting story with fully fleshed out characters that the readers (imo) can sympathise and feel for. With lots of plot twists and unexpected events to spice the arc up and events that left me wanting the next chapter.. now dammit :twisted: . <- which is the sign of a decently written and engaging story that sucks the reader in. Again well done.
BTW if you like writing, maybe you should try some short stories (not necessarily game related) and join a writers club to expand you art. I know where I live some community radios had a late night segments where novelettes are read out over the radio, Maybe there's something like that near you?

For the story overall, before any re-writes and fix-ups..
An interesting take on the game, different and thoughtful, maybe a little above what the games core was, but creative none the less. It had characters and events that felt in-line with what they should have felt/done.
Sometimes the writing was heavy and could have been trimmed a bit in the choice of wording but overall it didn't detract from what was there in the plot & particular scenes.
Sometimes I felt there was a sudden plot-jump into a sub/side-plot that had little warning or build-up. This felt a bit like a "skip" on a CD or DVD that just jumps into a new scene and I'm left wondering how it got there.
That isn't to say the side/sub-plot was bad, just a little more explanation on events could have helped.

a brief notes on some of the specific points you wanted.
The Prologue:
As you noted the prologue felt different than the main story arc. To me it feels like short story set in the same universe but different from the Main plot. (The 1st Act upto the Hammer incident has some of this feel too. Maybe because the plot then goes into Corealien/Tur Ryn territory and away from just events in the X-universe).
my suggestion would be to try and have the garrin intro tie into later events. (maybe have the pirates he fled from meet him at a later date and re-act/interact some. Cause as far as I'm aware the pirates just end up Damned and he never see's them again, so that makes the intro feel a little like a "fluff piece")
Trim repetition:
Maybe not re-explaining some of the previous plot events. Although maybe that was more of a symptom of you writing the chapters one at a time, with time between them. And when finalised into a main (1 off) story they can be removed without damaging the flow of events. That's something you'll have to trim and see how it looks when you do your re-edit.
Chapter Length:
Nothing really wrong with them atm. Here on the forum boards they might seem too large, but when they all get compiled into a book/pdf format they'll seem more suited. Maybe a merging of some like events into a chapter here and there but overall they're Ok.
Label Consistency:
we talk about this before and you're aware of what I think :wink:
Missed Typos / Dodgy Grammar:
Yes there are some :o :lol: , but once you can get it into a single file PM me and I will help you if you desire it :)
Window Dressing:
If you want more then ok, I felt things like Amon on the Split planet with the Robot Warrior were good for this, but as said above, make sure you give some description on how events got there, don't just "Jump" there.
Character consistency and uniqueness:
You've done well on this with the major characters, maybe some need some more fleshing out (Elaen with Ravn, especially later on [for example]). And check that not all the Pirates/Dogs are clone-like and have different reasons for who they are and what/how they do things. But they're your characters so I won't like to advise on how they should be..
Inverted Commas;
Yes, most obvious :P
A little less waffle:
what, where :o , points to this post :lol: .

A little suggestion for multiple naming for certain characters....
If you want to break up the naming counts for some characters, a good way to do it, is to name people by the different people they interact with:
ie: Tur Ryn can be known as "The Devil" when he's with his own pirates, as "Bane" by Fey, and as Tur Ryn by Jess/Kerry and people who don’t know him as either and Ex-pirate of the remade Devil.
Again Fey can be with the professor and Ban Danna and Faith can be with the legion.
Something for you to think about at least.

Again congrats of finishing the story, I enjoyed reading it immensely and consider it one of the top X-universe fan-fics

Now take a break, but please don't let the skills fade, write a short story or two. (Doesn't have to be in the same game universe you've set, maybe try something different)

Thanks for taking me on this journey into your world.

Snowship


And now that I wont dilute the different stories in my head I can read others..
Sometimes its hard to keep track of different stories when your reading multiple ones. I know it's like that with me atm. Reading this, an e-book at work during lunch and a different paperback at home... sometimes they just blend with one another :oops:


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Thanks Fly_by, and Snowship. :D

It is great to get some support. It has been good fun, and at times hard work. I certainly plan to keep writing. Hopefully improving a bit too!

Lots of useful comments. I am currently working away on the chapters - off line - (fixing the most obvious gaffs) notably speech marks, and so on first.

I am posting some basic revisions straight away as I feel guilty sitting on these, just to keep the stuff up to date - as much as I can - for new readers. However it is still a WIP so the final clean up won't occur until later when the whole final edit is complete!

A bit messy I know, but the simple result of the story already being out.

Snowship when I have finished if you are still keen I might hold you to that promise proofing wise! :)

At the moment (in my basic corrections) at Chapter 65.

So a long way to go. The early chapters are I suspect going to be light work compared to the later stuff, especially around the middle of the story!

Confess I have added a few small bits of extra content already with the advantage of hindsight also for the sake of clarity - there is some space for this - especially in the early short chapters.

Added to the Prologue a short piece introducing Febr (set at the Argon Asylum). I believe that should make a better introduction to the entire story Arc hinting at a lot of things later on - without giving too much away - (especially for new readers) hopefully it should set the right tone from the onset!

Only difficulty with this is the treatment is a bit too heavy, and third person so I find myself thinking about a total rewrite to change the - style - of the prologue to make it easier to read. I keep thinking this is the hook for new readers, and needs to be as sharp as possible.

I agree the old prologue just wasn't right. G runs through the whole story but only as a sort of loose thread of light association that helps link it up.

In some ways I kind of like that idea that the Reapers Passage is a series of touching intertwining stories as well as a few main plots, rather than just one singular plot. The old introduction prior to Febr's inclusion gave a false impression, and is more an insight into my initial idea for the story - which changed radically - once I introduced AFC 4, and the Hive access Core!

Garrin was the first character I made up, he arrived on the scene before I really had a full plot up, and running! :o

Anyway thanks again, it is hard watching it starting to sink - now it is no longer actively being bumped up via new chapters! :(

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Playing with format concept including: date, and time stamps, and the inclusion of a fictional source for the story.

See Page 0 Introduction

If anyone is bored, and wishes to comment on this idea I would be very grateful.

As well as planning to add new content to bridge some gaps in the story. I was also thinking this idea could also help put some fragments - jumps that I like - in context?

I also like the idea of specific bias, and potential inaccuracy in the retelling.
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8) Keep us updated how the edits going :D :wink:
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