X3AP version 2.0 – The war continues

[you_rebel_scum]

There are a lot of players, that don't even read this forum and would therefore not have seen CJB's comment about the Terrans not having a plot, in hindsight I should have forseen this after reading that statement. I think some people are more pissed about not having the plot rewards rather than playing through them, after all they are very powerful tools.

I'm gonna playthough a bit on this Lost Lar start that I have begun, see whats happens but I am keeping my Terran save backed up just in case...

It's the marine training times that I just can't stand

[wRAR]

Some time after patching I've lost about 5 UTs in the Asteroid Belt (4 of them during one hour), is that a coincidence or something was changed?
Of course all war sectors are blacklisted in the Mk3 Blacklist manager

did you blacklist Mars, Venus, Moon, Jupiter 2/3? because if you didnt they will still jump to asteroid belt to get to one of those

I did it after this, but it's interesting that this didn't happen for quite a long time in 1.1.

[Lorric]

Why is the plot unavailable in the Terran Commander start? I guess there must be a good reason for this? And can it be changed through mods?

[TTD]

I guess the story of the plot is based from a commonwealth/Argon viewpoint.

Maybe the same plot could be viewed from the Terran viewpoint via a mod.
I don't know.
Best ask in the S/M forum.

[Ripskar]

The main plot had to do with the Argon War Effort.

The new plots have completion of that as a requirement.

The Terran Revitalization Project is working on adding the new plots but will result in ***MODIFIED***.

I can't believe we're being driven to this...

[Shootist]

Wow fixed Megalodon is hax, wouldn't mind seeing a Teladi M2+ or just give the Phoenix a bunch of 12 point turrets....

Hax. n. Something deemed unfair or unexpectedly unfavorable

[Shootist]

The main plot had to do with the Argon War Effort.

The new plots have completion of that as a requirement.

The Terran Revitalization Project is working on adding the new plots but will result in ***MODIFIED***.

I can't believe we're being driven to this...

Seems to be the Perfect Solution to me.

[Catra]

Indeed it doesn't.

But it also makes it rather silly to complain about a 1 sided campaign when just about every other sandboxy game has a 1 sided campaign as well.

Ergo what I said is quite valid.

Again, the plot is not even the issue here. Of course not having a plot makes the game somewhat pointless, but there still is the war against the argon traitors.

I was looking forward to using the PHQ as a base of operations and as a means to replicate some Js. I wanted to go Aran hunting. I was exited to find out what it was they had in mind for the UFJD sectors.
All that, based on information from ES that made it totally reasonable to expect those features when playing the terran start.

If you do not understand the point of the terran players, i can't help it.

what information did ES say that would make you beleive that it would be reasonable to assume that?

links plz

[Skinmeister]

[wRAR]

Indeed it doesn't.

But it also makes it rather silly to complain about a 1 sided campaign when just about every other sandboxy game has a 1 sided campaign as well.

Ergo what I said is quite valid.

Again, the plot is not even the issue here. Of course not having a plot makes the game somewhat pointless, but there still is the war against the argon traitors.

I was looking forward to using the PHQ as a base of operations and as a means to replicate some Js. I wanted to go Aran hunting. I was exited to find out what it was they had in mind for the UFJD sectors.
All that, based on information from ES that made it totally reasonable to expect those features when playing the terran start.

If you do not understand the point of the terran players, i can't help it.

what information did ES say that would make you beleive that it would be reasonable to assume that?

links plz

What information did Egosoft say that would make you believe that it would not be reasonable to assume that?

Links 'plz'.

That's another question.

[EmperorJon]

Although I can't find a link, I distinctly remember someone saying that the plots wouldn't be available for Terran Commander.

[Skinmeister]

[EmperorJon]

Well then, I imagined this conversation:

will the new mini plots be available to both sides of the war?

No. They are both linked to the main plot, so you cannot play them if you start as Terran Commander.

[wRAR]

That's another question.

Incorrect. It's the other side of the same question.

No, WeriTis explicitly said "based on information from ES that made it totally reasonable to expect those features when playing the terran start".

[Skinmeister]

[Jumee]

Well then, I imagined this conversation:

will the new mini plots be available to both sides of the war?

No. They are both linked to the main plot, so you cannot play them if you start as Terran Commander.

Yeah, that was said in this thread. Five days ago. We're talking about never being told this previously since the game came out. Plus the plots are also unavailable in the Aldrin Adventurer start, which isn't mentioned.

Aldrin Adventurer is only available if you edit registry so it is not really supposed to be played

[EmperorJon]

Firstly, that wasn't in this thread, and secondly, it was said when someone asked. They answered a question. How can you blame them for that?

[Skinmeister]

[elio]

This is the best update ever from EGO by far.

I believe that with such a marketing behaviour EGO will never have a problem.

I know that there are other voices but i am a fan and i like a game that never stops giving me new things to do (which i like ) and listens to the community.

Thank you EGO

[Catra]

Firstly, that wasn't in this thread, and secondly, it was said when someone asked. They answered a question. How can you blame them for that?

Yeah you're right in that it wasn't said in this thread, I read the title too quickly. It was still only five days ago though, which is the important part.

The matter we 'blame' them for is previously having told us everything apart from the main plot would be available for Terrans, when this was a lie.

it was recommended for new players because it was a tutorial plot. =P after that if you wanted to play terran again theres was a USC commander and the aldran adventurer, and you picked one depending if you wanted to redo the first half of the terran plotline or not.

and mr. egosoft representative (CBJ) DID state in the survival guide under the WAR! section that only the argon side of the war had plots enabled.

Thank you for reminding me on that one.

The main game plot story is available from the Argon Peacekeeper gamestart but not the Terran Commander one.

Aside from the plot, choosing one of these gamestarts does not limit your other options in the game.

"*THE* plot". "Does NOT limit your other options in the game".

I can not see how this is a totally clear statement to not expect future plots and most of all how this is an announcement that one of the game starts would not feature PHQ/HUB/UFJD, which are pretty much implied by "other options in the game".

So no, Catra, i understand you're valiantly trying to defend ES out of whatever mislead fanboy reasons ever, but what you said is simply not true.

Also, the terran defender start was not only a tutorial start - i played my longest game of TC ever from that gamestart. Trying to diminish the role of the past terran defender start to counter my argument is a bit questionable.

This post sums everything up perfectly, and has yet to be countered.

if you stopped trolling and midly educated yourself, you would find it easily countered in the WAR! section. he left out the remaining portion of that segment that details what options you have as a terran commander.