Zen and the Art of Running away.. {spoilers guaranteed}

[JoeVN09]

...Not a good day at the office, then?

Just goes to prove what everyone seems to be complaining about on the forums these days with their M2s on patrol being skewered by Qs... bad luck mate...

...Revenge?

[Cantankerous]

There was a question mark after that word, "Revenge"? You've got to be kidding. This here is Mak G'Yvr we're talking about. Why give our Split a ball of twine, a wire hanger and some strips of aluminum foil and he'll knock together a way to distract a baby who's crib it's hanging over while he busts caps on a whole Xenon sector.

Isshia

[Olterin]

Somehow, I can see a storm brewing on the horizon of all Xenon sectors... and what a storm it's going to be


... The RNG Gods strike back!

[MegaJohnny]

Yay for broken OOS combat.

This many patches and the Qs are still the kings of the universe...

[Nanook]

And as a counterpoint to that, I have a Brig supported by two Carracks on patrol duty in the Hub while I'm gathering resources. They've taken out many Q patrols passing through, and even 'two-shot' one Q as I watched OOS. I think Mak's problem was his Brig was set up as anti-fighter. You should never, ever do that for OOS combat. It's a numbers game and anti-fighter weapons give rather low weapons numbers.

My Brigantine is equipped with as many PPC's as it can hold, with HEPT's and PRG's where it can't. It's an awesome OOS killing machine. And the Carracks carry the heaviest weapons they can. 'Deadzone' died not due to bad OOS design, but due to poor weapons and lack of support.

[Venarti]

Not poor weapons so much as the wrong ones for the task. It's like the missiles - choose the right one for the right job.

[MegaJohnny]

Except the only right gun for any job OOS is the biggest one

[Lord of Nothing]

Yes, but Deadzone wasn't just for OOS.

[Fallen-Angel]

As Homer Simpson would say .. DOH!

[Nanook]

Yes, but Deadzone wasn't just for OOS.

Well, yes it was at that point. A good fleet admiral would've made sure his ship captains used the right weapons for the job. Obviously, the captain was incompetent (or maybe not supplied with the right weapons) and the admiral screwed up.

[Targ Collective]

I feel your loss Mak G'Yvr. Revenge time!

[LTerSlash]

But what were doing in Scale plate green in the first place? is not a good place to put ships on, Q patrols are common there, this also happends with some other sectors too. Specially the Split/Boron ones at the upper/right corner of the universe.

[Tiedyeguy]

But what were doing in Scale plate green in the first place? Q patrols are common there.

He was scouting for Q patrols

[Nanook]

He was trying to raise Teladi rep by killing Xenon in Teladi territory.

[Tiedyeguy]

He was trying to raise Teladi rep by killing Xenon in Teladi territory.

IE: Scouting for Q Patrols

[Nanook]

He was trying to raise Teladi rep by killing Xenon in Teladi territory.

IE: Scouting for Q Patrols

I think he'd settle for pretty much any Xenon that showed up. P and PX patrols work well, too.

[MegaJohnny]

He was trying to raise Teladi rep by killing Xenon in Teladi territory.

IE: Scouting for Q Patrols

He didn't say Qs he just said Xenon.

I'm saying he did use the wrong weapons for the job, but not because the ship was a fighter killer and came up against a Hugeship, but because he didn't put the biggest guns he had in it.

Missiles and weapons don't have roles OOS. Big gun wins. Little baby gun dies.

[philip_hughes]

N.S. did take out a xenon shipyard.... Revenge?

[stealthhammer]

Come on people, give him a break. Even the best people make errors in judgment.

Sorry for the loss of the M2, maybe cap a q like you were saying before and then go for another M2 or a M1?

[1muvwndr]

Too bad that he'd need at least 20 maxed-out marines to even think about boarding a Q. And even with 20 of them he'd need an Aran-sized load of luck to pull it off without reloading - which is against his rules.