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Re: Honest Review from Steam. Developers Please Read!!

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Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 08:40 I would very much like to read the annual report myself too... Are the financials that bad? Cant find it though... :(
(aka got a link for me?)
https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet - search for EGOSOFT and type in the entire word (or letter + numbers), not the first one as the Google Chrome translation asks. Check the last 2 years, the total amounts and the annual spent, the trend says 2018 would be the last without selling something new.
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Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 09:35 ...
What a big wall of text, but i sign, the most that i read and did understand.
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I am not sure why people find the Universe of X3 largeness so great?.
you know their are so many sectors in X3 i bet most of the hardcore players can't even name 6 of them by name

10 to 20 Hex Sectors should be enough no need to create no mans sky the biggest empty space ever created.
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AdrianB1 wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 16:51
Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 08:40 I would very much like to read the annual report myself too... Are the financials that bad? Cant find it though... :(
(aka got a link for me?)
https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet - search for EGOSOFT and type in the entire word (or letter + numbers), not the first one as the Google Chrome translation asks. Check the last 2 years, the total amounts and the annual spent, the trend says 2018 would be the last without selling something new.
Interesting, thanks!
ES is a very interesting company, it's healthy but they where out of liquid assets if they didnt release X4:Foundations within 2018, which would require them to get loans which would make the profit margin on X4 worse.
Simply put: rebirth almost killed their company :P
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DeJuan wrote: Sun, 9. Dec 18, 00:49 I want free expansions!
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Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 19:44
AdrianB1 wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 16:51
Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 08:40 I would very much like to read the annual report myself too... Are the financials that bad? Cant find it though... :(
(aka got a link for me?)
https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet - search for EGOSOFT and type in the entire word (or letter + numbers), not the first one as the Google Chrome translation asks. Check the last 2 years, the total amounts and the annual spent, the trend says 2018 would be the last without selling something new.
Interesting, thanks!
ES is a very interesting company, it's healthy but they where out of liquid assets if they didnt release X4:Foundations within 2018, which would require them to get loans which would make the profit margin on X4 worse.
Simply put: rebirth almost killed their company :P
TBH I was sure it did kill the company lol.
Then one day X4: Foundations pop onto my steam queue and Im like OH BOI. I laughed so hard at the name the first time... F O U N D A T I O N S - aka WE ARE REALLY SORRY ABOUT REBIRTH, WE GUD NOW, BACK TO FOUNDATIONS ^^

I'm part of the problem, since I could have refunded the game but decided to just stick along for the ride. I've been waiting for a "THE SPACE GAME" for a better part of last decade. SotS 2 came close, but then was just a mess. It was like being cockteased by the hottest angel ever, just to have an anvil dropped on your nuts :rant: I guess
I got my moneys worth anyway, looking by AAA standards (already played 65 hours...) For now I'm having fun on the forums :lol:


And shilling for my cities idea! Use code S7 for cities!
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Zealoth wrote: Wed, 12. Dec 18, 01:44
Ornias wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 19:44
AdrianB1 wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 16:51
https://www.bundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww/wexsservlet - search for EGOSOFT and type in the entire word (or letter + numbers), not the first one as the Google Chrome translation asks. Check the last 2 years, the total amounts and the annual spent, the trend says 2018 would be the last without selling something new.
Interesting, thanks!
ES is a very interesting company, it's healthy but they where out of liquid assets if they didnt release X4:Foundations within 2018, which would require them to get loans which would make the profit margin on X4 worse.
Simply put: rebirth almost killed their company :P
TBH I was sure it did kill the company lol.
Then one day X4: Foundations pop onto my steam queue and Im like OH BOI. I laughed so hard at the name the first time... F O U N D A T I O N S - aka WE ARE REALLY SORRY ABOUT REBIRTH, WE GUD NOW, BACK TO FOUNDATIONS ^^

I'm part of the problem, since I could have refunded the game but decided to just stick along for the ride. I've been waiting for a "THE SPACE GAME" for a better part of last decade. SotS 2 came close, but then was just a mess. It was like being cockteased by the hottest angel ever, just to have an anvil dropped on your nuts :rant: I guess
I got my moneys worth anyway, looking by AAA standards (already played 65 hours...) For now I'm having fun on the forums :lol:


And shilling for my cities idea! Use code S7 for cities!
viewtopic.php?f=146&t=407095
X4: Foundations was a surprise for me too, I didnt even know they where working on it, thought they where just patching rebirth...

"I got my moneys worth anyway, looking by AAA standards (already played 65 hours.."
I love that comment, some people tend to forget how incredibly cheap games like this actually are... buy a movie: 20-40 euro's for 1,5-2,5 hours of fun, buy a game: 50 bucks: 24-200 hours of fun... I had/have A LOT of fun with X4 and the forums, now that the war is fixed that is :D
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palm911 wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 04:15
DeJuan wrote: Tue, 11. Dec 18, 00:13
palm911 wrote: Mon, 10. Dec 18, 03:20

no i did not, in my opinion the review is not accurate or balanced, i stopped reading the review when he/she said the x4 universe was smaller than rebirth (which is not True)... remember it got a DLC or two (cant recall) that expanded it further, but even with expansion is still smaller than X4.
I meant to say just X3 Terrain Conflict. You completely ignored X3TC and continued to complain without conversating on my whole statement. You only saw what you wanted to see however, I said more before that. Just because you do not agree with something does not mean stop reading altogether. Your mind is closed if you do that and it was a mistake I made. Why are people so polarized in one direction? It is not healthy as a society to be so dismissive. I disagree with what a lot things people say however they also say somethings I do agree with. Take a breath relax and open your mind a little bit more. Thank you for your opinion none the less.
well , when you see something that is not accurate, and you know its not, then i made the call (probably wrong on my side) as for my eyes it lost lots of objectivity, there is a fact Xrebirth was (spacewise) smaller than this game, discrepancy of opinions are totally ok! there is a reason this is called a discussion board, and my words over this has also been honest. as you can see there are people in both fences, and you can clearly see that, so if someone disagrees does it means we need to open our mind a bit? i appreciate you took the time to respond as well, and based on what i know about egosoft, what i paid is a bargain. could have been better at launch? absolutely.

you said you have preordered all EGOSOFT games, if so, you have to agree that those launches were, on the weak side, many more bugs (x3 reunion,), Rebirth was terrible!! when it launched, if compared to what we see over x4, and also remember , X3 , X3 TC, and X3 AP made the game what it was in the end (X3 AP), that is a lot of development time with those 3 games, so of course X3AP had many more sectors, but they were tiny in comparison to what you can see per sector today.

i have the outmost trust in what egosoft can do, they have proven that all the time, so thats when i say X4 is in very compentent and responsible hands, i cant really say that for some really large studios. but that is conversation for another topic.,
I completely agree with you 150%! EgoSoft almost always has a rough start however, they do not give up on the community and that gives me reason enough to always pre-order new games from them.

To me, more sectors means more economy/stations, more territory take overs, more derelicts to claim, and overall more things to do. I do enjoy the big systems I just wish there were a lot more of them.
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pretty sure its coming :) dejuan!
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