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Re: Trump Presidency

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Observe wrote: Sat, 9. Aug 25, 15:41
clakclak wrote: Fri, 8. Aug 25, 18:54 47% of Republicans say they would still vote for Trump even if he was implicated in Epstein‘s sex crimes. They would rather vote for a pedophile rapist than for literally any other candidate.
Perhaps Democrats should ask themselves what it is that people hate them so much for, that they would vote for such a vile person?[...]
I think you got it backwards. I think it is his vile nature, his open embrace of hatred to those considered to be 'other' that makes him such an attractive candidate to many republicans. People like to feel superior to others and it is my believe that many Trump voters embrace Trump because he gives them a feeling of being special, better than those 'others'.

More important note while we are already on the topic of elections, the American government is also testing the waters for other ways to limit voting right besides gerrymandering. Pete Hegseth is already reposting videos in which priests call for the abolition of woman voting rights based on religious grounds. I think even during Trump‘s last administration, a high ranking government employee floating the idea of taking away woman‘s voting rights would have been met with intense outrage. This time around it is only a footnote.

https://www.opb.org/article/2025/08/10/ ... dn-t-vote/
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clakclak wrote: Sun, 10. Aug 25, 18:55
Observe wrote: Sat, 9. Aug 25, 15:41
clakclak wrote: Fri, 8. Aug 25, 18:54 47% of Republicans say they would still vote for Trump even if he was implicated in Epstein‘s sex crimes. They would rather vote for a pedophile rapist than for literally any other candidate.
Perhaps Democrats should ask themselves what it is that people hate them so much for, that they would vote for such a vile person?[...]
I think you got it backwards. I think it is his vile nature, his open embrace of hatred to those considered to be 'other' that makes him such an attractive candidate to many republicans. People like to feel superior to others and it is my believe that many Trump voters embrace Trump because he gives them a feeling of being special, better than those 'others'.
This right here is how you lose an election and people like Donald Trump end up in ....charge God I hate having to write that....

Observe has asked a question I myself have been wondering.

I do think 'the don' is going to get soundly defeated in themidterms but for Gods sake until then lets not alienate more people!

We must remember the teaching of Jesus to love your enemies

That means YES those confederate flag waving.....plebs, embrace them and forgive them!
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Skism wrote: Mon, 11. Aug 25, 00:10
clakclak wrote: Sun, 10. Aug 25, 18:55
Observe wrote: Sat, 9. Aug 25, 15:41
Perhaps Democrats should ask themselves what it is that people hate them so much for, that they would vote for such a vile person?[...]
I think you got it backwards. I think it is his vile nature, his open embrace of hatred to those considered to be 'other' that makes him such an attractive candidate to many republicans. People like to feel superior to others and it is my believe that many Trump voters embrace Trump because he gives them a feeling of being special, better than those 'others'.
This right here is how you lose an election and people like Donald Trump end up in ....charge God I hate having to write that....

Observe has asked a question I myself have been wondering.

I do think 'the don' is going to get soundly defeated in themidterms but for Gods sake until then lets not alienate more people!

We must remember the teaching of Jesus to love your enemies

That means YES those confederate flag waving.....plebs, embrace them and forgive them!
I very much doubt that they would want to be embraced by me, with me being queer and all that. Sure they probably would only know if I told them, I don’t look particularly queer and am in a heterosexual relationship, but these are people to whom my pure existence and those of many people close to me is an affront to god. I find it hard to find any common ground with people like that.

You can try the approach of Jesus, it is a valid idea, I quite frankly do not have the strength to constantly turn the other cheek. Especially while some of these same people implore Jesus to prosecute friends of mine.
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Skism wrote: Mon, 11. Aug 25, 00:10 That means YES those confederate flag waving.....plebs, embrace them and forgive them!
Empathy can't be taught passed certain age. There's nothing to embrace.


And to direct you back to the article I linked. Their side won, why would they vote for anyone else, anyone else who will undo everything they have won?
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Donald Trump deploys National Guard to Washington DC, federalises Washington police force. According to him these measures are to "[...]rescue our nation’s capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam and squalor[...]". I must admit I am out of the loop here, is there even anything particularly unsual going on in DC?
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clakclak wrote: Mon, 11. Aug 25, 20:21 Donald Trump deploys National Guard to Washington DC, federalises Washington police force. According to him these measures are to "[...]rescue our nation’s capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam and squalor[...]". I must admit I am out of the loop here, is there even anything particularly unsual going on in DC?
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Maybe he should do this in red states. He's going to send mentally ill people to internment camps. They aren't being taken care of because people don't understand that they have medical issues that need taking care of that can cost millions to treat moderately per person.

Trump is one person he isn't the one carrying out these orders. No one actually has to do these things and they can do something like malicious compliance (working vacation - lunch break time - nap in the car time).

Trumps also going to Russia on Friday. Aka Alaska

https://www.msn.com/en-za/politics/gove ... r-AA1KjXkU

Trumps also trying to redistrict areas to give the republicans more seats. 2026 will be bigger midterms.

Trump threatens to attack Mexico and South America.

In case there's any doubt Epstein himself said Trump was a close friend for at least 10 years. This is when he was arrested. Trump officials are told a narrative and they are told to stick to the narrative even if doesn't make sense. Pretty easy to see this.

Trump mainly won on immigration and gaza. Immigration is easy you just make the regular police do their job. Can even start a permanent on going sting operation to fire non compliant police. Trump flip flopped on gaza like most issues. Dumb people voted for him due to gaza even when it became apparent before the election that he was very much against gaza but I guess people don't watch the real news vs fox.
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burger1 wrote: Mon, 11. Aug 25, 21:42 Trump mainly won on immigration and gaza. Immigration is easy you just make the regular police do their job. Can even start a permanent on going sting operation to fire non compliant police. Trump flip flopped on gaza like most issues. Dumb people voted for him due to gaza even when it became apparent before the election that he was very much against gaza but I guess people don't watch the real news vs fox.
Mainly immigration and gaza?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/factors-th ... 0-minutes/
One of the most important factors in this year's election is the economy, specifically inflation. All throughout the pre-election polling, Salvanto said, voters marked it as the top issue, and Trump had always had an advantage with people who said the economy was their top concern.

Salvanto said that, when he highlighted features pointing to the economy's strength, including steady GDP growth and a low unemployment rate, voters told him their personal experience made them feel otherwise.
and

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why- ... e-results/
The Harris campaign was always running uphill. She served as vice president to a president whose approval rating plunged in the middle of his first year in office and never recovered. The public’s judgment of his performance on two core issues—inflation and immigration—was harshly negative, and Harris inherited this disapproval when Joe Biden abandoned his quest for a second term.
So immigration has been mentioned, but dismissing the loss as just due to immigration and "Gaza" may not be the best idea. Reading both (they're short) it is interesting to note what's brought up.
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Economy was doing great mostly due to the Ukraine war. Only place for it was to go downwards. Immigration is tied to inflation. Inflation will continue unless the government introduces price controls like they proposed in the UK. The government also needs to stop allowing mergers, mega corporations (vertical integration, monopolies), collusion/price fixing. Immigration is pretty much number one in any country currently. Housing prices/demand rents, food prices are directly linked to demand. Look at population growth and where it's coming from. Percentage swing was enough to lose the election.
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let's wait when people realize that they actually needed social security, and healthcare, and consumer protection, and worker rights, equal rights, voting rights, rights over own body, education, science, to be doing well - not the GDP itself


though maybe they won't realize
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They may not have to wait too long :P
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US creating a military reaction force to use against US civilians. Looks like the oath keepers are definitely the bad guys and are part of these things. Looks like they are a bunch of trumpers and have no interest in upholding democracy or the constitution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/penta ... r-AA1KmDsZ

According to Trumps fake economical numbers food prices are down 0.1 % since last year and inflation's between 2.7 % core inflation 3.0%

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leavitt- ... dy-2112412

The decline in gas prices, down 2.2% from June and 9.5% from last year, combined with a 0.1% drop in grocery prices
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burger1 wrote: Wed, 13. Aug 25, 02:59 US creating a military reaction force to use against US civilians. Looks like the oath keepers are definitely the bad guys and are part of these things. Looks like they are a bunch of trumpers and have no interest in upholding democracy or the constitution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/penta ... r-AA1KmDsZ

[…]

Seems like America is turning the SAVAK treatment on itself. The CIA has quite some experience, forming units like this. I assume it is going to be an effective tool to control dissent.
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trump trying to get scotus to overturn parts of the voting rights act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wdphkaguQ0


trump offering russia access to rare earth minerals in Alaska and the dropping of some sanctions in exchange for a cease fire.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tru ... 00800.html

They will include opening up Alaska’s natural resources to Moscow and lifting some of the American sanctions on Russia’s aviation industry, The Telegraph can reveal.

trump orders review of Smithsonian exhibits and removal of the ones that don't fit his view of history

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/white-house-o ... 27630.html

The White House continued its cultural crackdown on the Smithsonian this week, pressuring the institution to review its exhibits and operations and align them with President Donald Trump's view of American history.

US national debt hits a historic high of 37 trillion

https://apnews.com/article/treasury-deb ... 07a3c926f4

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