Hey all,
I've been looking at the Station Transaction Logs on a Wharf of mine that I've opened up to the public. I can see other Factions are buying the odd ship - clearly shown in the log with "[ship name] - Sold ships" and the credit amount. However, I'm also seeing lots of entries that just say "Transfer" and a credit value. These are NOT manual transfers made by me, nor are they transfers done automatically by the station to my account. No, they are transfers to the Station's account from some unknown source.
In my prior games, v7.5 and prior, I'd often see entries showing that an allied ship resupplied at my open Wharfs/Shipyards - nice and clear in the logs - however, I've not seen even a single such entry in a fresh v7.6 game.
So, has something changed? What are these "Transfer" entries?
Note: for clarity, I'm NOT talking about:
- the red, negative "Transfer" entries where credits are transferred from the Station to my personal account.
- the green, positive "Transfer" entries where I've moved credits to the station myself.
These are simply Transaction log Entries showing "Transfer" (no other text) and a green, positive credit value but with no cited source. These appear to be from friendly ships resupplying, but I'm not getting the resupply message I used to. It'd be nice to have that detail back, if this is indeed the case.
Station Transaction Log has less detail than before?
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Re: Station Transaction Log has less detail than before?
Transfer entries are ship repair & resupply income. Such entries exist also in previous versions of the game.
You can figure this out when look transaction log times and credit amounts and compare them to Wharf/Shipyard logbook entries. Logbook will clearly tell what happened.
You can figure this out when look transaction log times and credit amounts and compare them to Wharf/Shipyard logbook entries. Logbook will clearly tell what happened.
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Re: Station Transaction Log has less detail than before?
Yes, I think that's what they are, but my point is that I'm NOT getting the details I used to. It just says "Transfer", rather than telling me that a ZYA Chimera resupplied at the station.BitByte wrote: ↑Fri, 4. Jul 25, 00:56 Transfer entries are ship repair & resupply income. Such entries exist also in previous versions of the game.
You can figure this out when look transaction log times and credit amounts and compare them to Wharf/Shipyard logbook entries. Logbook will clearly tell what happened.
Why remove the detail from the Transaction Log? That's my point. It was far far more useful there, rather than having to cross-referrence the transaction in the Logbook. So, why should we have to figure it out, when the game just used to tell us. While not game-changing, seeing at a glance what sort of ships are visiting, and how much they are spending is useful. Equipment Docks have been a fairly significant revenue stream in my prior games, so the information is useful to me. Now it's gone.
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Re: Station Transaction Log has less detail than before?
Like I said "transfer"-entries have been there before 7.5.
I have build my very first EQ (and Wharf after that) when game was going in version 4.x and it was there then too.
I have build my very first EQ (and Wharf after that) when game was going in version 4.x and it was there then too.
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Re: Station Transaction Log has less detail than before?
Yes, as I said, Transfer entries have indeed been around for ages, however they used to come with details, not just the word "Transfer" and a value for certain transactions. I don't know if I still have them, but I might be able to load up an older save where the station Transaction Log still has the details in... I will have a look later, time permitting.
Edit: Right, I just loaded a couple of different older saves and checked various Station Transaction Logs...
Going through historical data - logs entries that would have been made in v7.5 and as old as v7.0 Beta - I see a lot more detail. For example, I have stations that SELL to other factions. In my current game, the station Transaction Log is EMPTY - no entries at all - even though the station has had many visitors buying wares - not just my own ships selling. I hadn't actually noticed that until just now. Compare that to the station Transaction logs in my older saves and I can clearly see things like:
"[Ship name] = Trade Sale", time stamp and number of credits.
If I expand the entry (click the + sign) I then get below that:
"[Station Name] sells [number] Energy Cells to [ship name]"
No such entries exist for my "open for sales" stations in a v7.6 fresh start. The individual sales (to other Faction's ships) have not been logged at all. Again, I hadn't previously noticed that, until I started directly comparing older vs. current saves. Note: my stations are pretty much all just for me now, except the "public" Wharf I built recently. However, historically, several also sold to other factions to bolster early-ish game income, so I'd have expected to see Transaction log entries for those sales.
Looking at Equipment Dock / Wharf type stations - any that can resupply/repair ships - where I have them open to other factions, my current game simply shows "Transfer" for when a ship visits for repair and resupply. However, in my older saves I clearly see a much more detailed entry, example:
"ARG [ship name] - Resupplied Ship" plus a time stamp and then the credit value.
Ship purchases by other factions are unchanged. It's just "servicing" that no longer has the detail it once did.
I would check even earlier saves, however, as I generally start fresh with major version changes, the oldest games I have were started in v7.0. I was evidently a bit more organised than usual, and deleted a load of older backups.
Is there some game settings I've perhaps changed without knowing it? One time, my game did crash - very rare for me - and when I launched it next it'd lost a load of settings. I had to tweak all the graphics and control options again. Config.xml was still present, but had been overwritten with default values for some reason.
I've looked at numerous Station Transaction Logs in these older saves, compared them to equivalent stations in my current saves and the Transaction logs simply contain more detail in those older games. Now there ARE entries that just say "Transfer" in those older saves too, but they are JUST for either manual or automatic credit transfers. Older saves have the details I mention above for ships that visit for repair/resupply. Current saves do not.
I'm going to do a full file verify (GoG version here) just in case something is amiss.