Trump Presidency

[Chips]

Those strike were totally worthless.

and yet they sent a signal that has obviously been understood by Tehran, and likely Russia, China and every other country on the planet.

Is that worthless?

[Vertigo 7]

That the orange one is a lunatic with an arsenal at his disposal and will attack without provocation?

Everyone seems to have forgotten he pulled this the last time he was in office when he assassinated an Iranian general with a drone strike and told us "He was planning bad things. Trust me!". He's just picking on someone that doesn't have the means to truly fight back that no one is really going to give a crap about to make himself look like he's big and tough.

[matthewfarmery]

Even the Congress briefing has been cancelled, Which means, that the WH is clearly hiding something, or might not want to admit stuff.

Iran Strike Briefing Is Abruptly Cancelled

Time: “A highly anticipated classified briefing for members of Congress on the United States’ surprise bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities was abruptly rescheduled on Tuesday morning, infuriating Democratic lawmakers and fueling suspicions that the White House is withholding critical information—including early assessments suggesting that the strikes may have only modestly delayed Iran’s nuclear program.”

“The result was a day of visible disarray in Washington. As Trump vented on social media and to reporters, Democrats expressed alarm at his strategy. By day’s end, many were still seeking basic answers: Was the ceasefire truly in effect? Had the strikes achieved its intended goal? And why, after risking regional war, was the Administration refusing to provide them with answers?”

If the WH is withholding information, then what else could they be withholding? And when will congress get that briefing to keep them in the loop? This could be concerning.

[matthewfarmery]

So a leak has happened, which contradicts Trump's claims about the strikes. But the WH has hit back to say, that this document was a highly classified intel and was leaked by a low level loser.

But there are questions there, if the intel was wrong, why classify it? and if it was so high, why did a low ranking member has access to it?

So a lot of questions, and very few answers.

[Vertigo 7]

To be fair, being low ranked has nothing to do with clearance level and need to know. For example, I held a TS-SCI clearance as early as E-4 in the Navy. It was part of my duties to handle extremely sensitive information related to my duty assignment. And typically mission reports are classified.

Now, I'm not surprised that the Orange one's embarrassments demand coverups. That's pretty on point for him. Remember sharpie-gate? Or Stormy Daniels? etc.?

[Warenwolf]

So a leak has happened, which contradicts Trump's claims about the strikes. But the WH has hit back to say, that this document was a highly classified intel and was leaked by a low level loser.

But there are questions there, if the intel was wrong, why classify it? and if it was so high, why did a low ranking member has access to it?

So a lot of questions, and very few answers.

Point being is that the regime in question lied from the first moment they made any claim right after the strikes was complete - you can't know that the results that fast in that sort of operations with several unknown elements - but that is not a surprise, since if we know anything about current US admin is that they, just like communist regimes during the cold war, will always claim some sort of victory since "they are infallible".

As to who leaked it, that is totally irrelevant. We are talking about people who use telegram to coordinate between departments strikes on Houthis. For all we know, some high level official may have had midlife crises and wanted to impress some cute trainee half his age and she rushed to share it with her journalist friend (this is kinda how this stuff goes half the time).

[Chips]

tbf Trump always lies when it comes to anything he wants people to think positively about *his* claims, it's not even exaggerated, just made up half the time.

Reference literally *everything* the guy says about jobs, economy, immigration and prior administrations

The bbc copped a load of false criticisms from the White House press secretary person recently; it was all balderdash, but likely picked on as they regularly use a "fact checking..." style report of things people say.

There's a lot regarding Trump over the time, pointing out how much BS he spews.
(e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9vxve994ro )

[jlehtone]

... current US admin is that they, just like communist regimes during the cold war, will always claim some sort of victory since "they are infallible".

Both Israel and Iran have already declared that they did win the war.
Unless US admin does the same soon, then surely US did lose this one?

[felter]

Let's be honest here, if it's something that Donald Trump, his family, his staff, his administration or even his allies has said, you have to assume it is a total lie, especially if it is Trump that is saying it as he has a pretty hard time with honesty and telling the truth.

[matthewfarmery]

Birthright Citizenship Case Turned Into Class Action Case

“An organization representing immigrants fighting President Donald Trump’s birthright citizenship order wasted little time seeking to recalibrate its legal strategy to block the president’s policy despite the high court’s restrictions on nationwide injunctions,” Politico reports.

“CASA Inc. is asking a federal judge in Maryland for an emergency block on Trump’s policy — which would deny citizenship to children of some immigrants born on U.S. soil — and said it has refiled its broader lawsuit as a class action case.”

“Class action lawsuits are one of the ways that the Supreme Court explicitly indicated Friday were permissible to broadly block a federal government policy.”

So the corrupt supreme court basically restricted lower courts powers to impose injunctions against Trump's executive orders. Which means, that he can forge ahead with getting rid of birthright citizenship. But the aboe group is still trying to fight to preserve birthright citizenship. So judges should be ashamed of themselves. So another dark day for America. and forging ahead with a dictatorship

[chew-ie]

Yet another new low: Trump threatens to cut off New York City funds if Mamdani ‘doesn’t behave’

He’s got to do the right thing or they’re not getting any money

Last time I checked the candidate was successful for doing the left thing, that's his mandate from the voters. By the people, for the people.

[fiksal]

Trump and its supporters are fans of taxation without representation

[clakclak]

Zohran Mamdani is the democratic frontrunner for the office of mayor of New York. The federal government has just announced that they are open to begin an investigation against him, to see if they can strip him of his citizenship. I assume the endgoal here is to be deport him.

https://www.alternet.org/leavitt-trump- ... tizenship/

(Video of the statement at the bottom of the article)

As for the reason for a potential denaturalization, the issue at the core of this are rap lyrics Mamdani rapped in 2015. Yahoo summed it up better than I could:

[...]“According to public reports, including a June 21, 2025 New York Post article, Mr. Mamdani expressed open solidarity with individuals convicted of terrorism-related offenses prior to becoming a U.S. citizen. Specifically, he rapped: ‘Free the Holy Land Five / My guys,’” Ogles wrote in the letter.

The rap lyrics come from a song Mamdani rapped in while he was pursuing a rap career in a "past life." He began rapping around 2015, and was known under the monikers Mr. Cardamom and Young Cardamom.

The "Holy Land Five" lyric refers to the five leaders from The Holy Land Foundation, a U.S.-based Muslim charity, who were convicted for funneling funds to Hamas in support of Palestine in 2008.

Ogles believes that Mamdani's once rapped lyrics were "publicly praising" the five and that it raised concerns that Mamdani may have "held affiliations or sympathies he failed to disclose during the naturalization process."

“While I understand that some may raise First Amendment concerns about taking legal action based on expressive conduct, such as rap lyrics, speech alone does not preclude accountability where it reasonably suggests underlying conduct relevant to eligibility for naturalization," Ogles wrote.[...]

Source for that quote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/denaturaliza ... u9Ipiyg_vv

[felter]

If I was a New Yorker, I would currently be having a public discussion on having a state referendum on whether New York State should leave the US and go it alone, as it looks like their state is not in sink with the rest of the country and could possibly be better off not being part of that country. California and Hawaii should probably also be doing the same. While I don't think they should necessarily go through with it, but them just talking about it or even considering it would send shock waves through American politics. California probably should go through with it, what with them having the 4th largest economy in the world, they could certainly afford to go that way.

[chew-ie]

@clakclak's findings: head -> table -> wall

[clakclak]

To be fair to both sides here: „Young Cardamom“ as a rap name should probably be a deportable offense in and off itself. Also, we can be happy that he gave up bis rap career, I am going to spare you, but let’s just say he wasn’t exactly good.

[fiksal]

next stop for fascism, turning citizens into non citizens


MAGA is looking to start this
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/30/trump- ... mmigration

The DOJ directed attorneys to prioritize denaturalization in cases where naturalized citizens commit crimes, per the memo.

The DOJ calls for "civil denaturalization" in the case of "war crimes," "extrajudicial killings," "human rights abuses," and for those "convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the United States," as well as "terrorists."
"The Civil Division shall prioritize and maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence," the memo said.

...

Denaturalization is no longer so rare," noted Cassandra Burke Robertson, a professor at Case Western Reserve University's law school, in 2019, saying that the rise began under the Obama administration, "which used improved digital tools to identify potential cases of naturalization fraud from years before."

"But the Trump administration, with its overall immigration crackdown, is taking denaturalization to new levels."
Robertson also noted that denaturalization was a common political tool of the McCarthy era.

[clakclak]

next stop for fascism, turning citizens into non citizens


MAGA is looking to start this
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/30/trump- ... mmigration

The DOJ directed attorneys to prioritize denaturalization in cases where naturalized citizens commit crimes, per the memo.

The DOJ calls for "civil denaturalization" in the case of "war crimes," "extrajudicial killings," "human rights abuses," and for those "convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the United States," as well as "terrorists."
"The Civil Division shall prioritize and maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence," the memo said.

...

Denaturalization is no longer so rare," noted Cassandra Burke Robertson, a professor at Case Western Reserve University's law school, in 2019, saying that the rise began under the Obama administration, "which used improved digital tools to identify potential cases of naturalization fraud from years before."

"But the Trump administration, with its overall immigration crackdown, is taking denaturalization to new levels."
Robertson also noted that denaturalization was a common political tool of the McCarthy era.

This is, surprisingly already out of date. Donald Trump himself is now no longer only talking about denaturalisation of those that became citizens after birth. Instead he is now openly talking about the deportation of American born citizens. It is time for Americans to understand that an American passport, no matter how you obtained it, is at the end of the day only a piece of paper if the laws that govern citizenship become meaningless. Nobody is safe from being deported.

Source: https://www.wjbc.com/2025/07/01/trump-r ... criminals/

[burger1]

Pretty obvious that the ICE is trumps personal army like putins personal police force. If the big bill is passed trump will increase their funding and numbers by a very large amount. $167b budget (previous budget was only 2 or 3 b) and 10,000 officers. Immigration isn't the only thing he is currently using ice for. They are targeting democrats, us citizens, legal immigrants and other people.

Alligator Auschwitz type immigrant and dissident internment camp

Trump press secretary happily announcing the internment camp surrounded by swamps and dangerous animals

https://youtu.be/ton2pcYDMDc

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/gove ... r-AA1HQbUg

trump launches a perfume brand

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 429755007/

On Monday, June 30, Trump announced a new line of Trump Fragrances that celebrate his presidential wins in 2016 and 2024. Available for both men and women, "Victory 45-47" is named after Trump's titles as the 45th and 47th president of the United States.

US has halted arms shipments to Ukraine. US seems to be in cahoots with russia. Trade offs for bombing iran and getting trump out of trouble? Russia and North Korea can land a plane with nuclear weapons on it and hand it over to iran in less than an hour. Iran showed no signs of building a nuclear bomb. Iran had maybe 10-12 days of missiles left. Israel maybe less than that.

US lifts sanctions on russia to let hungary build nuclear power project. Hungary is pro russia and china while being part of NATO. Has a China police force.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/us ... r-AA1HFy6c

US tries to get Israels leader Netanyahus trial cancelled.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-us-tr ... fff0c2ac28

[matthewfarmery]

Its frightening isn't it. But America is clearly turning into pre WW2 Germany at a rate of knots.

Edit

Looks like Trump's bill has faltered in the house,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzmLp9RoLws

Still got a bad feeling it will get passed. If that happens, America be damned.

Edit 2


Very good video about American's growth, (or lack of)

BREAKING: Trump gets the news he DREADED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlQg8KBOT0

So yeah, Early signs of recession. And who will Trump blame?