Suggestion / Request - Repeat Order - Sell all Cargo

[alt3rn1ty]

There may be another way to do this, but I just want to reduce the tedium of selling off Build Storage (either from a Station which has redundant build storage due to downgrading / rebuilding, or from the left over build storage of a deconstructed station).

So if you have any of the above situations, it would be good if we could set up a large Freighter with Repeat Orders.

1. Select Freighter behaviour "Repeat Orders"
2. Select Freighter left click, then right click on station and choose Trade for station build storage
3. Right click on Freighter, choose new command "Sell all cargo"

Sell all cargo now becomes part of the repeat orders, the freighter gets to step 2 and buys all it can.
At step 3 it then goes looking for anyone buying the item, and sells all of it ..
.. then it goes back to step 2 automatically. Grabs more, sells to anyone buying, without the player constantly having to look for target buyers.

In the case of a deconstructed station, I know for the quickest we can just remove the build storage which is much less of a pain than selling it all .. but its such a huge waste of profitssss.

"Sell all Cargo" would solve the problem of having to babysit a freighter getting rid of it all.

Anyone think of any snags with this?

[vvvvvvvv]

Anyone think of any snags with this?

Sure. Sell it "where"?

Basically it feels like there should be something other than Repeat Order for those situations.

Some sort of "temporary trade manager" which could:

* Buy items on the list and deliver them to station.
* Buy things station needs without becoming a suborinate.
* Sell off station stock or build storage stock.
* All of it can do himself or using subordinates.

I suppose a simpler way would be ... "dump cargo", which would pick a sector as a target and sell whatever is in the hold to anyone in the sector and... "take cargo" which will just take whatever's available from source which could be build storage.

Hmm.

While trying to empty build storage I also recall there was no "transfer cargo" order.

[Raptor34]

While trying to empty build storage I also recall there was no "transfer cargo" order.

Repeat order or what? Because I've transferred cargo from it before.

[alt3rn1ty]

Anyone think of any snags with this?

Sure. Sell it "where"?

At step 3 it then goes looking for anyone buying the item, and sells all of it ..

Like an Advanced Autotrader, but getting rid of it.

I can get an above 3 Star freighter pilot who is already in Advanced Autotrade mode, with a manual command to Trade with my own station for excess build storage, and without anymore commands the pilot will go and sell all of that to clear his cargo space and then go on with doing the normal Advanced Autotrading everywhere, but you have to do that repeatedly.

A temp trader to get rid of stations build storage would also do the trick, but could we also have one of those on just a build storage platform after a station has been deconstructed.

[LameFox]

I do kind of wish there was a non tedious way to do this. Another example is, if you have a collector that picks up dropped cargo in a conflict area and then wants to offload it somewhere, say to a station of yours. Are you expected to make a separate sell order for EVERY potential cargo it might pick up? Consequently, it's one of those things that you can technically do, but the automation for it is so obscenely unfriendly it's not worth the hassle.

[Raptor34]

They should give us a firesale button which permanently turns the build storage into a trade station with only sell orders.
Of course this would have the limitations that you cannot cancel it after clicking it, and also you cannot transfer or sell TO the build storage.

Either that or expand build storage mechanics so it isn't just a tiny station that somehow has more capacity than multiple L container storages.

[PV_]

I haven't tried myself, but doesn't the change help in solving OP issue?

Added player-only sell offers for remaining cargo of orphaned Build Storages.

[Raptor34]

I haven't tried myself, but doesn't the change help in solving OP issue?

Added player-only sell offers for remaining cargo of orphaned Build Storages.

I THINK, that's only for NPC one's, not your own.
Or at least I've seen such things and also discussion about it, but 7.5 is recent enough that I'm not sure if it's different than what I'm thinking of.
Was Hyperion 7.5 or 7.0? I saw it when I came back for the Hyperion DLC.

[PV_]

I THINK, that's only for NPC one's, not your own.

For Player's NPC it seems. As it is "player-only sell offers". If not for assigned to build storage trader then auto-trader should deal with it. I mean player may limit the autotrader with only build materials and set the storage sell price at minimum (if it isn't by default). Yet there is still exists a chance that trader will find "better" deal on side but shouldn't be huge pain in the ass, I suppose.

Was Hyperion 7.5 or 7.0? I saw it when I came back for the Hyperion DLC.

v7.5

[Raptor34]

I THINK, that's only for NPC one's, not your own.

For Player's NPC it seems. As it is "player-only sell offers". If not for assigned to build storage trader then auto-trader should deal with it. I mean player may limit the autotrader with only build materials and set the storage sell price at minimum (if it isn't by default). Yet there is still exists a chance that trader will find "better" deal on side but shouldn't be huge pain in the ass, I suppose.

Was Hyperion 7.5 or 7.0? I saw it when I came back for the Hyperion DLC.

v7.5

Yeah, but have you actually tested it?
The discussions I've seen about this issue since 7.5, I've never seen this before. Only asking for the NPC thing to be applied to players too.

[PV_]

Yeah, but have you actually tested it?
The discussions I've seen about this issue since 7.5, I've never seen this before. Only asking for the NPC thing to be applied to players too.

I have no idea what is meant by "NPC thing to be applied to players too".
Also:

I haven't tried myself

[Raptor34]

Yeah, but have you actually tested it?
The discussions I've seen about this issue since 7.5, I've never seen this before. Only asking for the NPC thing to be applied to players too.

I have no idea what is meant by "NPC thing to be applied to players too".
Also:

I haven't tried myself

Okay. So you're just speculating basically.

[alt3rn1ty]

Yeah I remember seeing that quoted change, but haven't been able to find how or where we use it (is it a contextual menu item somewhere etc).
Either its none obvious, or I'm either having another senior moment
This game defies me sometimes.

[LameFox]

I think I've seen my ships pick stuff out of my build storages after I deconstruct something? It's not something I was really looking out for though. From memory it ended up sitting there with just energy cells. I guess those were simply never in any demand.

[PV_]

I've dismantled a station, removed the plot and left "remove build storage" unchecked. Build storage started offering stocked wares. Tested repeat orders with "buy in" the sector and the ship has found the offer and went transferring wares.
Sell offer also appeared at map filter for constructions goods.
I suppose that might be considered as solved issue for OP.

[Raptor34]

I've dismantled a station, removed the plot and left "remove build storage" unchecked. Build storage started offering stocked wares. Tested repeat orders with "buy in" the sector and the ship has found the offer and went transferring wares.
Sell offer also appeared at map filter for constructions goods.
I suppose that might be considered as solved issue for OP.

I see. So you need to clear off the plot then.
Thanks.

[LameFox]

Yeah, I don't think it's an issue for build storages. Though like I said earlier the order would still be nice to have for things like collectors. As-is the ships I have doing that usually fill up their cargo hold and just never empty it because that's tedium I can't be bothered with.

[Raptor34]

Yeah, I don't think it's an issue for build storages. Though like I said earlier the order would still be nice to have for things like collectors. As-is the ships I have doing that usually fill up their cargo hold and just never empty it because that's tedium I can't be bothered with.

Until they implement something, you should build a trade station and use that instead. Just dump everything at it. Which speaking of, there should also be a dump everything at station command.

[LameFox]

Yeah, I don't think it's an issue for build storages. Though like I said earlier the order would still be nice to have for things like collectors. As-is the ships I have doing that usually fill up their cargo hold and just never empty it because that's tedium I can't be bothered with.

Until they implement something, you should build a trade station and use that instead. Just dump everything at it. Which speaking of, there should also be a dump everything at station command.

Well that's what I meant to use it for. I could have it sell everything to one of my stations that would then either ship it out to my own stuff or sell it.

Right now though, the only way I can think to do that with a repeat-orders ship like a collector, would be if you had set up a sell order for each separate ware it might conceivably pick up... and that just sounds awful to deal with.

[Raptor34]

Yeah, I don't think it's an issue for build storages. Though like I said earlier the order would still be nice to have for things like collectors. As-is the ships I have doing that usually fill up their cargo hold and just never empty it because that's tedium I can't be bothered with.

Until they implement something, you should build a trade station and use that instead. Just dump everything at it. Which speaking of, there should also be a dump everything at station command.

Well that's what I meant to use it for. I could have it sell everything to one of my stations that would then either ship it out to my own stuff or sell it.

Right now though, the only way I can think to do that with a repeat-orders ship like a collector, would be if you had set up a sell order for each separate ware it might conceivably pick up... and that just sounds awful to deal with.

Oh, you mean an auto-collector... Yeah, that sounds like a pain.
Which is why I want them to rework how repeat orders work. Repeat orders is just a pain tbh.
Like why does adding any order to them turns it permanent? Or why can't I mimic or copy and paste it?

I know why, just that the current system feels like a stopgap rather than something someone would actually design.