Trump Presidency

[chew-ie]

Presidents day: people chanting „We shall overcome“ (video snippet @bluesky)

[Observe]

Presidents day: people chanting „We shall overcome“ (video snippet @bluesky)

It's kind of humorous that we are seeing people protesting about DOGE uncovering government waste, corruption and inefficiency, while evidently those same people are quite happy that the government is the one who is wasting their hard-earned money to start with.

Fortunately, other than a few rag-tag disgruntled liberals bemoaning the loss of their golden goose, the majority of Americans would rather see their government be accountable and use the money wisely.

[matthewfarmery]

Presidents day: people chanting „We shall overcome“ (video snippet @bluesky)

It's kind of humorous that we are seeing people protesting about DOGE uncovering government waste, corruption and inefficiency, while evidently those same people are quite happy that the government is the one who is wasting their hard-earned money to start with.

Fortunately, other than a few rag-tag disgruntled liberals bemoaning the loss of their golden goose, the majority of Americans would rather see their government be accountable and use the money wisely.

I just have to shake my head on this, your clearly haven't a clue on how much damage Musk and co are doing. What is more, Musk so far has provided ZERO evidence for this so called waste. Yet at the same time, plenty of people are getting laid off and will probably be soon worrying on their next check, and worrying over their future. You seem to be happy seeing the government being gutted for no reason.

But all this will damage the government no end. Trump is damaging America at a rate of knots. And Musk is gutting agencies after agencies, and at the same time, gaining access to private details that could if it fell into the wrong hands, could bring down the government, and the economy. America is getting weaker by the day. Realise that, before its too late.

[matthewfarmery]

And this is funny and sad, Trump taking a vacation at this former home, but that costs tax payers money.

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Each time he goes there, it costs the US tax payers 3.4 million per day. and from last weekend, its so far added up too, 10.2 million. And yet, this so called agency doesn't do a thing there does it? Trump can create waste, and is free to do so. But for the rest of America, that is a no, no. See the problem observe?

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Trump loves to spend money, (as long as it's other people's money)

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America is getting weaker by the day. Realise that, before its too late.

I do realize that. Which is why it was so urgent to get rid of Biden and prevent Harris from allowing the hemorrhaging to continue unabated. I take no pleasure in voting Republican for the first time in my long life. Unfortunately, Trump offered the only prescription that has a chance of turning the tide. It is my fervent hope that Democrats will wake up and smell the destruction of their own making. Alas, I see no signs of that yet.

[Chips]

It's kind of humorous that we are seeing people protesting about DOGE uncovering government waste, corruption and inefficiency, while evidently those same people are quite happy that the government is the one who is wasting their hard-earned money to start with.

Fortunately, other than a few rag-tag disgruntled liberals bemoaning the loss of their golden goose, the majority of Americans would rather see their government be accountable and use the money wisely.

Is that *really* what they're protesting though?

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Is that *really* what they're protesting though?

Well, as you pointed out:

But there's so many damned options. Something Israel/Gaza, Ukraine, Canada, Greenland, Diego Garcia (over the UK and Chagos Islands - which the home crowd will likely love anyway), Panama, Putin to US for talks... -- and that's only at the huge international, rather than national, issues.

There is of course, the usual hue and cry whenever on side loses. This is especially true when it comes to Trump. Throw in the mix of all the things you mentioned, on top of backlash from DEI, 'woke', gender madness and other things, and you have a recipe for what we are seeing.

[Chips]

Is that *really* what they're protesting though?

Well, as you pointed out:

But there's so many damned options. Something Israel/Gaza, Ukraine, Canada, Greenland, Diego Garcia (over the UK and Chagos Islands - which the home crowd will likely love anyway), Panama, Putin to US for talks... -- and that's only at the huge international, rather than national, issues.

There is of course, the usual hue and cry whenever on side loses. This is especially true when it comes to Trump. Throw in the mix of all the things you mentioned, on top of backlash from DEI, 'woke', gender madness and other things, and you have a recipe for what we are seeing.

Ah, so you think their protests aren't about DOGE and government efficiency then.

Instead, you're de-legitimising their protests that are allegedly about DOGE on the basis that they're actually protesting about Trump making threats to invade Panama, Greenland, trade wars with Canada and China.

Is that what you're saying?

Or you're saying that just because they're not Republicans, they're protesting about DOGE, and because they didn't vote Republican, they have no legitimacy to protest?

There's absolutely, without any doubt in your mind, no chance whatsoever that there's any legitimacy to protest about DOGE actions or mandate.

[matthewfarmery]

America is getting weaker by the day. Realise that, before its too late.

I do realize that. Which is why it was so urgent to get rid of Biden and prevent Harris from allowing the hemorrhaging to continue unabated. I take no pleasure in voting Republican for the first time in my long life. Unfortunately, Trump offered the only prescription that has a chance of turning the tide. It is my fervent hope that Democrats will wake up and smell the destruction of their own making. Alas, I see no signs of that yet.

didn;t you see the links I posted? I mean come on, Trump is at this moment in time, wasting millions for staying at his former home. While food aid is rotting. I really shake my head on what you are saying. You voted for a monster. And this monster is doing a great deal of damage. Plus his so called side kick. Like I said, Musk has provided no evidence for this so called waste. none, zero. So how can you say that the previous government was wasteful? Trump is even more so. And doing far greater damage then Biden ever did.

[clakclak]

Trump fires a lot of FAA staff. This is a great chance for other countries/companies to potentially hire some very qualified people. The FAA has a excellent reputation and as the firings are not merit based there will be some really qualified people here.

[matthewfarmery]

Crazy isn't it? Which means air travel in the US will get a whole lot worse. That isn't cost cutting, that is putting people's lives at even greater risk. No justified reason for the firing. At this rate, America will just crash and burn.

[matthewfarmery]

So, Musk has no No ‘Formal Authority?

White House Admits Musk Has No ‘Formal Authority’

“Elon Musk is not the administrator of DOGE and nor is he an employee of the department that’s overseeing massive cuts to the federal workforce and agencies, per a Monday night White House court filing,” Axios reports.

In that case, what powers does he have to rampage through agencies and fire staff and have access to personal details then? I suspect this is because of the outcries of disgruntled people getting annoyed with him. And Trump might be trying to distance himself from Musk.

Then, if this is the case, he should be arrested and the whole DOGE agency needs too be stopped in it's tracks.

What do you say now Observe? Musk has no power to do the things that he doing.

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What do you say now Observe? Musk has no power to do the things that he doing.

I am having a hard time mustering the effort to look into the latest legalities of DOGE, because in the minds of Democrats, it hasn't been settled yet, and legal challenges are ongoing.

In answer to your question directly, it's true that Musk has no power to do the things that he is doing. The thing is, President Trump has made it very clear, that Musk is not doing anything on his own. Everything that DOGE is doing, is with Trump's approval.

So, the real question is, does the President of the United States, have the authority to audit the government? More than likely, this will go to the Supreme Court, which is where just about everything that Trump does, ends up. On his side, is Congress, the majority of whom are in support of DOGE and the activities thereof.

[matthewfarmery]

Which still begs the question, if the WH has said, Musk have no official power, then something is major frelled up, wouldn't you agree? And I still don't see a president having the power to give someone else the power to mess up the inner workings and fire and gut agencies without merit. Trump wants to be a dictator. So he has given power to Musk to do whatever he likes.

So, if Musk has no official power, then he has no power to fire anyone. Regardless what the president says. To me, The WH is setting Musk to take the fall. Otherwise, that statement wouldn't have been issued. Someone is lying. And someone's head might roll as a result. And then on top of that, if those people who Musk has fired, would it possible for them to get their jobs back and sue Musk for wrongful firing? Which then means, Musk will be the one who be made to answer for.

Whichever way you look at it, this latest response from the WH regarding Musk, isn't a good sign for him, and might be a rift between the two men.

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And then on top of that, if those people who Musk has fired, would it possible for them to get their jobs back and sue Musk for wrongful firing? Which then means, Musk will be the one who be made to answer for.

Again, everything that Musk is doing is in collaboration with the Trump administration.

Clearly there will be a backlash from all this at the ballot box. If all the people who got fired and their families end up voting Democrat, the political tides may turn - as they always do. In the meantime, Trump has unleashed a tsunami of change, and there probably isn't very much that anyone can do about it, other than watch and learn and bide their time.

[clakclak]

Elon Musk’s DOGE fires FDA employees tasked with reviewing his company Neuralink. We are now sprinting towards a William Gibson esque future with breakneck speed.

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It looks like Musk has received funding to automate air traffic control. Which is a pretty big conflict of interest and a really bad idea. Russia has already compromised air traffic safety gps spoofing etc.... Humans are much better and more adaptable to changes or illogical issues.

Air traffic controllers were in high demand. It's unlikely they would be able to be replaced soon by other people.

Musk will probably also try to replace fighter pilots with drones which is also a bad idea. Aside from all the potentially crippling disadvantages there's also the moral human angle. Having one person in control is more dangerous than many people. At some point some people will stop while ai won't. Also if the system gets hacked then your ai weapon is your enemies ai weapon.

Musk was looking at old age security. Not sure if he will freeze it temporarily.

Having a few people being to disable a large portion of the US is a very bad idea.

More protests going on.

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President Trump on Tuesday signed an executive order declaring that only the attorney general or the president, instead of federal regulators or bureaucrats, can speak for the U.S. when interpreting the meaning of laws carried out by the executive branch.

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Trump fires Democrat US attorneys. Republicans trying to solidify their control.

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NASA employees escape being fired likely due to the employees mainly being in red states. Probably would be replaced by Elon Musks space x.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/n ... oyee-cuts/

Trump to tries rehire some Department of Agriculture employees after finding out they monitor the bird flu outbreak. Seems to be a trend. US likely to experience disease outbreaks in people, animals, wildlife, crops, forests, etc...

Looks like people wanting to get rid of the government is growing and people supporting it are decreasing in number.

[matthewfarmery]

Well guess what Observe, despite your claim that Musk won't touch SS, well here goes

Trump and Musk Set Their Sights on Social Security

“Before President Donald Trump started mass layoffs of federal workers, he demonized them, arguing, despite evidence to the contrary, that most never went into the office,” CNN reports.

“As he moved to cut foreign aid, he and Elon Musk alleged widespread waste and abuse, although they offered little evidence to back up their claims and may simply disagree with how the money was being spent.”

“With that in mind, consider what the Trump administration is now doing to Social Security, seeding the idea, which is not backed up by known facts, that millions of dead people are collecting payments.”

So, SS will be on the chopping block. And musk is also saying, that 150 year olds are getting SS, which is BS for a start.

[Chips]

Are any Republicans wibbling as of yet? Or are Republicans pretty united at this point still?