The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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It's bad enough with the Xenon, I have built fleets to contain the Xenon in both Hatikvah's and Family Zhinn.

I have built a heavily defended wharf to help the ZYA, however the Argon have two Behemoths sitting around my station taking out the split shipping.
They are also doing damage to my station, which I can't do anything about, which is exceedingly annoying. If I damaged a station like this I would public enemy no 1.

Is this war between Argon and ZYA a perpetual one? I thought relations went up and down between the factions.
Having the Argon take out the ZYA ships while I am trying to help is a PITA.

I don't want to ruin my relations with either side, but I need to get rid of these ships.
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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If sector is owned by ZYA and they don't have at the moment enough powerful fleet to take those ships out you have few options to solve the situation.
If these 2 Behemoths are not part of bigger fleet and ZYA is trying attack against those ships you can offer helping hand and shoot ship hull to as poor condition as possible but make sure ZYA is the one who performs final shot. That way you won't get reputation loss. Also avoid destroying surface elements (engines, shields or turrets) as if you do each will cause reputation loss.
If you have enough skilled marines you can perform ships capturing and with that way help yourself and ZYA.
Captured ships you can decide if want keep them or want sell them for ZYA's (or other faction) shipyard.
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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Did you join the split vs argon Guild missions? Go heavy on the fleet building missions and max out the ships - could help but you may not make a profit
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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Duncaroos wrote: Wed, 30. Oct 24, 19:10 Did you join the split vs argon Guild missions? Go heavy on the fleet building missions and max out the ships - could help but you may not make a profit
Not sure if applicable in Split vs Argon but atleast Argon vs Xenon fleet mission reward was ship value + 50% so no matter what kind of loadout you choose you make profit (more expensive more profit).
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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I think I might try a boarding operation. I have scanned one of the Behemoths and it only has a very low boarding resistance.

I will look into the Split v Argon guild missions for a build ship mission as well.
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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BitByte wrote: Wed, 30. Oct 24, 20:40 Not sure if applicable in Split vs Argon ...
It is. All "War Guilds" offer two types of "Fleet Assembly" missions. One of them has that "all slots must be filled with whatever, we pay +50%", and the other gives you exact loadouts to deliver, for a fixed price. On the latter ARG, PAR, and ZYA all want a Carrier among the fleet -- for ZYAvsARG that is a Raptor.
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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When I'm in the "saving ZYA's ass mode"... i take on as many missions to make ships and especially defense stations, as I can. Defense stations you can beef up pretty well, and the AI has gotten better about defense station placement for those missions to make the defense stations more useful to a sector. Capping the ships is what I would do if i was trying to remain allies with both ZYA and ARG. it could be a small reputation hit, but that should be about it. If I'm not at war with ARG as well, you can set your factories in range to not sell to ARG, so they're having to get their goods from other possibly further locations which may slow down their ship building.

Also, you can continually hack ARG shipbuilding production in the area. Hacking production and storage can really slow down ARG putting ships out, as well as if you see ZYA going after an ARG station, go in and hack the defense of the station, like turrets.
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Re: The really annoying Argons in Split Space

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grapedog wrote: Thu, 31. Oct 24, 13:59 If I'm not at war with ARG as well, you can set your factories in range to not sell to ARG, so they're having to get their goods from other possibly further locations which may slow down their ship building.
If you can also set your trade to prefer buying from ARG, even better. I used to haul a lot from ARG producers to ZYA consumers. That supports ZYA and keeps ARG stations in shortage.
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