Is it possible to have my shipyards/wharfs only sell Argon ships?

[fraeulein78]

I don't wanna sell Terran because I do not get the resources.

[Alan Phipps]

If you choose the commonwealth building method option, do not buy Terran ship or equipment blueprints, and do not stock or trade Terran resources at your construction stations, then you should be fine. You can restrict all the above to just Argon and restrict ship building for and trade with Argon, if you want to specialise further.

[fraeulein78]

Commonwealth method? I always try closed loop if you mean this?
Ok, deleting buy offers from the station. TY.

[Alan Phipps]

I think the correct term for what I meant is the Universal build method as used for example by Argon NPC ship building. Closed loop using using recycled scrap for example could be applied to both Terran and Commonwealth ship construction.

[Manawydn]

No, but construction methods do need a bit of improvement in my opinion.

There is an exception, and that is if you only have ship-building/refitting set to Argon only, then it will only sell Argon ships to the Argon, but when it comes to blueprints, those determine how your wharf, shipyard, or equipment dock allocates wares in storage. There is no way around that last part, you can try to manually adjust wares, but they will always populate a spot.

[humility925]

If you choose the commonwealth building method option, do not buy Terran ship or equipment blueprints, and do not stock or trade Terran resources at your construction stations, then you should be fine. You can restrict all the above to just Argon and restrict ship building for and trade with Argon, if you want to specialise further.

How do one do want all blueprint but yet make your shipyard only specific Terran or commonwealth resource only even building method didn't help and it's not specific use?

[Koizuki]

How do one do want all blueprint but yet make your shipyard only specific Terran or commonwealth resource only even building method didn't help and it's not specific use?

As the owned blueprints determines what wares are purchased automatically, I believe the only way to achieve a restriction like this is to set the build method, then manually override the storage allocation of all "unwanted" wares down to 1 so that it's simply not possible to build anything using them.
If selling to the AI, I'm not sure if they will still attempt to queue purchases that cannot be fulfilled, though; I've never actually allowed any factions to buy ships from me, since it seemed like it was more passively lucrative to sell the wares to their shipyards instead.

[jlehtone]

I don't wanna sell Terran because I do not get the resources.

Who does buy Terran ships? TER, PIO. Anybody else? If you don't allow them to buy from your shipyard, then nobody.

If fact, do anyone else than ARG and ANT buy Argon ships?

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It would be a nice feature to be able to set per Fabrication Bay what it can sell.

[Nanook]

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If fact, do anyone else than ARG and ANT buy Argon ships?...

Yes. The Teladi. Well, technically I've only seen them flying around in Argon ships, and repairing them at Argon Equipment docks (notably the one in Black Hold Sun). It's possible they build them themselves, but I doubt it.

[vvvvvvvv]

I don't wanna sell Terran because I do not get the resources.

You can restrict ship trade to argon and antigone factions via a trade rule. They'll only ever buy argon ships.

[humility925]

I don't wanna sell Terran because I do not get the resources.

You can restrict ship trade to argon and antigone factions via a trade rule. They'll only ever buy argon ships.

Problem is that some faction want to buy ship with equipment that required difference resource, whole thing got lot of confused when you had whole blueprint both terran and commonwealth, and let said player build shipyard only commonwealth resource, not terran resource, design, but since player had Terran and commonwealth blueprint, and A.I buying ship from player shipyard, might buy Argon ship with Terran shield mk3, but waiting forever as if A.I buy ship and never got, it's stuck waiting because human player only design commonwealth shipyard only resource, not mix with Terran stuff when player had whole blueprint. It's messed whole thing when player had both Terran blueprint and commonwealth, yet only specific commonwealth resource equipment but player had no control over A.I buying on shipyard when A.I buy commonwealth with Terran Equipment, that is where issues is.

In same way, let said Player build terran shipyard with only Terran Resource, but A.I buying Terran ship with commonwealth Equipment, that is big problem.

You could limited to yourself Terran blueprint, but problem many quest like terraforming required commonewealth resource, so you kind of end up had to buy blueprint of commonewealth

[Old Drullo321]

Please show me proof why you think commonwealth faction buy/build shipdesigns with non-commonwealth equipment at your shipyards at all.

Because I don't think that commonwealth faction buy ships with non-commonwealth equipment. Why?
I've a very large shipyard with large storage for six-figures cargo for everything. This shipyard is frequently set to different trade rules that allow/disallow certain factions only to buy those ships. I observed the orders and used ressource quite often and non of the faction build ships and use ressources they have no access too.
ZYA, HOP, ANT, ARG and TEL only used commonwealth stuff. And TER only used TER ressources.

Is your save modified?

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And other then that the answer is quite simple.
OP: Create a trade rule that excludes every faction other then yourself and ARG (or ANT, or both, depending on what exactly you want). Apply this rule to one of the shipyard modules (S/M or L or XL). It is automatically attached to each of them.
Alternatively you can apply the trade rule via station overview in the map UI.

[vvvvvvvv]

Problem is that some faction want to buy ship with equipment that required difference resource, whole thing got lot of confused when you had whole blueprint both terran and commonwealth, and let said player build shipyard only commonwealth resource, not terran resource, design, but since player had Terran and commonwealth blueprint, and A.I buying ship from player shipyard, might buy Argon ship with Terran shield mk3

But does this actually ever happen? I have not seen AI mix and match components, but it is not like I investigated it in depth. Around 6.0 time common knowledge was that AI buys carbon copies of its own loadouts and never optimizes it. Meaning Teladi will never buy terran equipment.

[Old Drullo321]

But does this actually ever happen? I have not seen AI mix and match components, but it is not like I investigated it in depth. Around 6.0 time common knowledge was that AI buys carbon copies of its own loadouts and never optimizes it. Meaning Teladi will never buy terran equipment.

They don't. It doesn't happen in unmodified games.

[vvvvvvvv]

OP: Create a trade rule that excludes every faction other then yourself and ARG (or ANT, or both, depending on what exactly you want). Apply this rule to one of the shipyard modules (S/M or L or XL). It is automatically attached to each of them.
Alternatively you can apply the trade rule via station overview in the map UI.

One thing worth keeping in mind is that ARG and AND use different hulls. Sentinel / Vanguard variant from early versions of the game when slight variation in cargo was a thing. So if you want to cater to them both, you'd need to buy both.

Thought right now it seems it is possible to easily cancel "unknown ships" from construction queue.

[BitByte]

If fact, do anyone else than ARG and ANT buy Argon ships?

Scale Plate buys Discoverers.

[Alan Phipps]

"Scale Plate buys Discoverers." I know it *uses* them and they get spawned in as with other common SCA ships, but do they ever buy them?

[BitByte]

Atleast I saw in my Wharf logbook SCA bought saboteur discoverer.

[Alan Phipps]

Thanks, so a special use situation.

[humility925]

But does this actually ever happen? I have not seen AI mix and match components, but it is not like I investigated it in depth. Around 6.0 time common knowledge was that AI buys carbon copies of its own loadouts and never optimizes it. Meaning Teladi will never buy terran equipment.

They don't. It doesn't happen in unmodified games.

That's odd, it's did happen to me in unmodified game, it's been long time while, I recalled A.I did brought Terran Ship with MK4, and I didn't put commonwealth factory in shipyard when I was builded pure Terran shipyard and try sell, but I noticed some ship can't build and need commonwealth resource, but that was back in 5.0 version or 6.00 version, so unless that is changed or improved, I had not test it in 7.0 or latest version. But it's did once a time, without mod.

I brought all Terran blueprint and I did brought spilt blueprint mk4 combat, as I worried xenon destroy whole spilt at a time, but didn't buy all type of commonwealth blueprint at a time, then there was A.I did brought ship with want that mk4 but shipyard can't product due need commonwealth resource, and I was surprised at a time, I didn't use mod at that time.