X-TRA POLLS Round #8 | Which factions do you usually consider your adversary? (vote multiple options)

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Which factions do you usually consider your adversary? (vote multiple options)

Poll ended at Wed, 10. Jul 24, 18:03

[ANT] Antigone Republic
8
4%
[ARG]+[HAT] Argon Federation + Hatikvah's Free League
17
8%
[BOR] Queendom of Boron
9
4%
[PAR]+[ALI]+[TRI] Godrealm of the Paranid + Alliance of the Word + Realm of the Trinity
14
6%
[HOP] Holy Order of the Pontifex
35
16%
[TEL]+[MIN] Teladi Company + Ministry of Finance
12
5%
[TER]+[PIO] Terran Protectorate + Segaris Pioneers
27
12%
[VIG] Vigor Syndicate
42
19%
[ZYA] Zyarth Patriarchy
31
14%
[FRF]+[CUB]+[CAB] Free Families + Court of Curbs + Cabal of Curbs
30
13%
 
Total votes: 225

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X-TRA POLLS Round #8 | Which factions do you usually consider your adversary? (vote multiple options)

Post by Tomonor »

Greetings, Members of the X-Community!

The last poll has concluded and we've received valuable data on your game sessions' runtime while you're absent.
Thank you for voting, especially if you took the time to voice your opinion and provide us with feedback!

The next poll is: “Which factions do you usually consider your adversary?”
Notes:
-We are mostly interested in the factions you usually decide to fight (or generally be unfriendly with) during your game sessions.
-You can vote as many options as you'd like this time!
-We are excluding Xenon and Kha'ak because they have a fixed reputation of kill on sight.
-Furthermore, due to limitations imposed by the forum's engine, we can only list 10 options per poll, so the less important factions are omitted - thus some factions are combined into single options, and pirate factions are omitted completely.
-We'd be happy to hear which ones you voted for and why in the comments!
-Also feel free to tell us if the combined factions in the poll above hold some factions that you'd not fight with the others in the bunch.



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I find the Teladi’s lack of war partners boring. So I make it a point to keep them humble.
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I must play a wierd game my constant enemies are the Terrans and the incy mincy wincing Borons,, If ever races deserved to perish it is those two...
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I'm usually super friendly with HAT, but I really dislike ARG. I took that option, but want to make clear that I like HAT.
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Xenon and Kha'ak.
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Post by Scoob »

Hi,

I voted VIG this time, due to the limited options. However, historically, I'm one of those annoying "friends with everyone it's possible to be friends with" type players. This isn't always by design, rather just how things pan out. Any Faction I can freely trade with, I'll end up passively gaining rep with over time. For those I'm -15 with by default, well, I'll usually befriend them eventually. Once my ships can trade - which might be just one qualifying action on my part, like destroying the right ship in the right place - then the whole passive trading comes in. If by the time I go hunting for Capital ships to add to my fleet, I'm already on good terms with a faction, I'll not be attacking them. Pirates supply most of my fleets as a result.

I've role played "stick to the game start" in the past, so, if starting as ARG and ZYA and TER hate me, I will attack and steal their ships relentlessly. However, as I like to go the economic long-game - fully self-sufficient economically, and able to produce my own ships - the friends with everyone usually happens, eventually.

The main reason I chose VIG this time is because they're most likely to annoy me due to pirating my ships, so I like to wipe them out, as much as that is possible. Last play-through though, in v6.2, I specifically became friends with them - no more pirating - just for some peace and quiet lol.

Speaking personally, if the Faction territories were more vast - so, a large cluster of ARG space, then adjoining HOP etc. - then I'd be more inclined to "Pick a side". With the relative small clusters of sectors for each faction though, I don't play that way. I.e. even though I'm ARG and ARG hate HOP, proximity means my traders will regularly sell to HOP and HOP come to buy from me.
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xant wrote: Wed, 26. Jun 24, 20:48 I'm usually super friendly with HAT, but I really dislike ARG. I took that option, but want to make clear that I like HAT.
Thanks for commenting it! Unfortunately, they had to be combined for the sake of the complete poll.
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The Terrans. It depends on my character but those are the 'usual'.
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I voted for all of them, but as usual it's more complicated. My goal is, generally, to be a relatively hostile pirate-like faction. However, in vanilla the mechanics don't support this. I can steal ships but I can't loot equipment, take it off one thing and put it on another, etc. I can't steal most of the blueprints either, only station modules, and not even all station modules. So really what I end up doing is just making a hostile faction that doesn't expand as much as others.

In keeping with the theme though, I tend to be friendly to factions like HAT, YAK, PIO, RIP. ALI kind of, because their presence is just so minimal my rep doesn't change much. TEL varies depending on if they get upset in my conflict with MIN. Sometimes I befriend FAF for their ship skin, but more often I just start with high FAF rep, because once you've done a skin's worth of generic pirate missions once you've repeated them all so many times the idea of doing it again is horrifying. I wish they'd get more interesting ones, even if they are an extremely minor faction. Or even just a station to trade with.

With the authorities, I first have to be friendly to buy all their blueprints and do the story missions (which really annoys me, as I'm sure I've mentioned). I try to focus one at a time, so I can start fighting without having to wait for *all* the blueprints. TER usually go first, because although their stuff is obscenely expensive, they're in a good place to fight wars and their story mission isn't as much of a slog. I set them to war with ANT/ARG and then I can fight them when I see them. The others vary a bit depending on circumstance. Sometimes I focus on making TRI because HOP is dying. I set TRI to fight everyone, and then I fight them too. MIN become hostile more or less naturally due to reports from TEL when something neutral attacks my stuff and gets shot back. ZYA I have to prop up for a bit because they usually lose badly early on. I try to complete their story in a way that gives them more stuff so that when I go hostile they won't just die to Xenon. ARG/ANT used to come in earlier but now I'll probably leave them until the Boron story is done to avoid issues there.

VIG are kind of a special case. They come before everybody, even Terran, because it's easy to get their BPs. But I don't really fight them in the long term, just push them out of the northern two systems when the story makes them hostile.
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Option missing: [TER] but not [PIO]

Budgeted Start with ANT/ARG/TER set to "Conflict"
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Post by GCU Grey Area »

"Usually" is quite an awkward word in the question. In the poll voted for all factions with whom I've had -30 rep in at least one game. However, my usual enemies are those that are appropriate for the specific start I'm playing (rather than any particular factions being usual enemies).

For example, when playing as an Argon (Young Gun start) HOP were my enemies. During my Spear of the Patriarch game ANT, ARG & HAT were my enemies, though the latter only to the extent of clearing their control over Hatikvah's Choice (so the Xenon could take over). In my current Queen's Herald game my enemies have been ZYA/RHA & HOP, all comprehensively defeated. Currently in the process of antagonising PIO so ANT can take over their sectors. I don't really have anything against them, it's just geopolitics - they're in the way of opening up a second front for ANT/ARG in their war against the Terrans.

Another major factor for me in deciding which factions to have an enemies is availability of war guild missions. This is the primary reason I've never had either of the Teladi factions as enemies - none of the other factions will pay me to do anything to them. Think more war guilds might be a good thing to put some work into in future updates, ideally (if possible) a dynamic system that can generate new war guilds in response to changing relations between factions e.g. if Terrans declare war on ANT/ARG all three factions generate new war guilds to provide the player with appropriate missions to further their war goals.
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They (Terrans) are arrogant, obnoxious evil aliens. Now also a threat to my Xenon herd. :goner:
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@jlehtone

Sounds like you are a good sheperd :)
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Argons... meddling too much with AGI.
Teladi... well besides wanting to get their juicy sectors in the middle of the map, they've left any positive impression on me, but always felt as if they're more pathetic pirates than greedy entrepreneurs. And i'm writing that while i liked the old Mirani stuff.
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Ehm, None of the above. So can't honestly put in a vote.

Xenon & Kha'ak, always, but everyone else I make my goal to eventually be peaceful with.
When I do story missions which have branches I always try to find the branches with the best outcome for that long term goal.

Currently I dont like that the BUC will always be -15, because I chose to Unite the Paranid.
As far as I can tell there is no repairing that. I mean SCA was once rep locked, but repairable with Terraforming (my first objective after getting the PHQ capable of helping anyone).

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beside Xenon and Khaak, usally no one, but not because i dont want, i´m feared i crush the Economy of the game :D

but there is a interesting MOD, if you befriend with one Faction, u automaticly lose reputation with thier counterpart
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VIG because it's easy to pirate their Barbarossas for fast money.
That's the only thing which made me go against any of the factions. If there is no other purpose (except role-play) I am not mentally able to declare war on somebody.

I tried going for the Raptor and an Asgard, and found it to be impossible now (pre-7.0) to board successfully in more than 5 tries (with every try their crew lowered by just 9 members)
Also tried to lower Hull-HP down to 20-50% with bombs launched from the space-suit, still did not affect the boarding.

Now I feel like making the most from having a +20rep with a faction before going to war with it!
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For me it's Vigor and MIN.
I've destroyed Vigor as part of the plot however MIN got in the way leaving me with a low rep.
I decided to have them as an enemy as they're fairly well disbursed in the area that I'm involved in, so presented an interesting challenge.
In addition I did the Empyrean Curs Plot and thought I'd continue it in my own way.
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Post by Genoscythe »

Teladi and Terrans need to be curbed, or they expand so much that the game lags. HOP needs to be slowed down early, so they do not overrun the poor xenon and PAR.

Honourable mention to VIG, as they make too many fighters and the game laggy as well. They actually put up quite the resistance.
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Post by jojorne »

Adversaries? TEL the bastards to stop taking everything from me! Since they border almost everyone and have a very strong economy, they can expand to virtually everywhere.

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