Bug in modded game, need help finding the issue

[ApoxNM]

Hi guys,

I have been playing this game for a week without problems, now suddenly lots of ships get stuck in shipyards, blocking the construction. They seem to all be stuck on the order "Restock Subordinates". All shipyards have some ships endlessly stuck in them. They all have wares, so that's not a problem.
The techncial problem seems to be, that they are not asigned a pilot. So they are just stuck inside the shipyards.

I activated the debug log file and here is the link to my debug.log:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cegKHv ... sp=sharing

I would very much apprecite if someone can help find me the mod being the issue.

Thank you!

Edit: These are my mod lists:
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 3131351986

Nexus:
AI_fast_approaching_attack-1261-6-20-1701167984
ATF Valkyrie - L Frigate - 6.0 COMPATIBLE-973-5-0-1699042432
AbandonedShipExplorer-375-v2-0-2-1689800742
AnotherExplorer-363-1-0-7-1689800704
Argon Basilisk Heavy Destroyer-1163-1-00-1688822718
Argon Titan Battleship 2.01-974-2-01-1682064692
Better Faction Stations-794-1-0-1637998465
Better Scan Colors 6.x-38-6-x-1692167636
Boron Megalodon Battleship 1.00-1273-1-00-1703248497
Boron Regal Barracuda Heavy Fighter 1.01-1186-1-01-1692554690
Boron's extra gate connetion-1066-1-1682231149
Chiba light carrier-1159-1-00-1688302699
CollectPlaceables-340-2-0-1-1689800664
Colourized Faction Texts-1019-1-02-1681426815
DataVaultExplorer-370-2-0-3-1689800633
DeadAir DynamicWars-1111-6-0-1683944896
DeadAir Fill-1109-6-0-1683944726
DeadAir Ware-1079-6-0-1683944412
Disable Claim Damage-452-1-1-1-1587506074
Diverse Backgrounds and Clothing for Argon-1021-1-0-1677518127
Enable radius in Collect Drops command-814-1-0-1640679521
Equipment tooltips-838-1-00-1645689444
Faster Boarding Pods-863-0-1-1648470321
FasterStationModules.7z-776-1-1633127224
FixIllegalBuy-71-1-02-1544625529
Gramstonbank-504-1-25-1679537520
Hydra regal-1057-6-0-1681699364
Increased Long Range Scan - 1000km v1.3-17-1-3-1544089417
JP_ScriptLibrary-1145-1-0-3-1690195438
JWL Recolored Factions-1121-1-0-0-1684519589
JWL Ship Icons-1121-1-0-0-1684519540
Kill and Attack Notifications Extended-1197-V1-4-1691837168
More Traders-793-1-00-1637926169
MultiRename-210-1-05-1594991577
No Hazard Regions-1146-1-0-1687238823
NoRepairDronesInBattle-828-1-0-1-1644001708
NumberMyShips-376-1-01-1590329237
Paranid Agamemnon - XL Battleship - 6.0 COMPATIBLE-920-5-0-1699042305
Pay The Builder 1.0.2-482-1-0-2-1589854424
Pirate Skytte 1.00-1210-1-00-1693348630
Pirate Witherborn Fighter 3.01-1022-3-01-1693238950
S-Class Turret Foundation 2.10-1185-2-10--1693229527
SellSETA-821-2-00-1667866661
SetFleetNameColor-367-1-03-1590329367
Ship Variation Expansion-727-0-29-2-1701789528
Shipsale Price Fix-675-1-0-1618281369
Shiptrader Relations-439-1-1586960713
Signal_Leak_Hunter_v300-51-3-0-1544786456
Skip ceremony speach-1272-1-0-1-1702932236
SpiralExplorer-1151-1-1-0-1689800521
Split Python Battleship 1.02-1259-1-02-1703279880
Split Tiger - XL Battleship - 6.0 COMPATIBLE-871-5-0-1699209608
Stop destroying my boarding target-715-2-2-0-1697965188
Tachi 1.5-922-1-5-1682901658
Teladi Fulmar Battleship 1.01-1061-1-01-1682071795
Terran Cruisers-1143-1-53-1689528998
Terran Frigate 1.1-962-1-1-1682278302
Terran Tsurugi Super Heavy Fighter 2.0-1020-2-0-1681559722
The Black Mamba Split Destroyer-987-1-0-1673203764
The Caimen Split Battleship-989-1-2-1680821447
Trade Receiver Satellites-120-2-1544842995
TradeSubscriptionExplorer-339-2-0-4-1689800415
Triton (13th vers)-970-v4-0-1697668910
VTF - Boarding Boost Fix-806-1-00-1639120973
VTF - Wholesome Teladi-805-1-00-1639113929
Vanilla-1092-1-0-1683236617
Weapon Variation Expansion-729-0-17-1-1701789331
X4RE Expansion Skull and Bones - vanilla v1.0-1243-1-0-1697842763
Xenon Overhaul 1.0-1132-1-0-1685269581
Xpert Trader-1235-1-2-1-1696551393
Zero Tide Damage-1094-0-02-1683268622
apologizeforattack_v0_2_1-381-0-2-1-1577635584
cargo mass reduction 30 percent-837-5-1647955571

[ApoxNM]

I think I found the culprit (after lots and lots of testing).

KUDA AI Tweaks

Not 100% sure though.

[magitsu]

Not 100% sure though.

It's more likely that you have Player Restock Subordinates mod, which is known to cause congestions at wharfs and shipyards.

Though you seem to have identified a potential hang point in assigning pilots. I don't know whether KUDA can be the cause for that.

Here's one very old case where similar problem was reported: https://www.reddit.com/r/X4Foundations/ ... _captains/

[ApoxNM]

Not 100% sure though.

It's more likely that you have Player Restock Subordinates mod, which is known to cause congestions at wharfs and shipyards.

Though you seem to have identified a potential hang point in assigning pilots. I don't know whether KUDA can be the cause for that.

Here's one very old case where similar problem was reported: https://www.reddit.com/r/X4Foundations/ ... _captains/

If you want this resolved, list all the mods used and upload a save game for kuertee to try to reproduce the bug. Hopefully you don't have a ton of other mods.

I don't have "Player Restock Subordinates" installed, but thanks for the link.

[magitsu]

I don't have "Player Restock Subordinates" installed, but thanks for the link.

Your log shows suspicious amount of errors right of the bat like "[=ERROR=] 0.00 File I/O: Could not find file '.\extensions\da_ku_ai_tweaks\t\0001.xml.sig'".
If it's not some obvious problem like not having the mods enabled in a save where you originally had them enabled, you have a heapload of other mods so debugging might not be easy.

Are your mods in ...SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\X4 Foundations\extensions?

[ApoxNM]

I don't have "Player Restock Subordinates" installed, but thanks for the link.

Your log shows suspicious amount of errors right of the bat like "[=ERROR=] 0.00 File I/O: Could not find file '.\extensions\da_ku_ai_tweaks\t\0001.xml.sig'".
If it's not some obvious problem like not having the mods enabled in a save where you originally had them enabled, you have a heapload of other mods so debugging might not be easy.

Are your mods in ...SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\X4 Foundations\extensions?

.sig errors mean nothing. Egosoft hasn't released their tools for making .sig files. Every mod shows that error.

[magitsu]

.sig errors mean nothing. Egosoft hasn't released their tools for making .sig files. Every mod shows that error.

Ok, good to know. Is this part suspicious then?

[=ERROR=] 0.00 Missing component macro 'character_argonalloutfit_male_cau_civ_02_macro' in file 'libraries\character_macros' as referenced in: index\macros
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 0.00 Macro not found: character_argonalloutfit_male_cau_civ_02_macro
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 0.00 Error in default context: NPCGenerator: No NPC generated using group/ref/macro null. Fallback generator group/ref/macro: argon.trader

[ApoxNM]

.sig errors mean nothing. Egosoft hasn't released their tools for making .sig files. Every mod shows that error.

Ok, good to know. Is this part suspicious then?

[=ERROR=] 0.00 Missing component macro 'character_argonalloutfit_male_cau_civ_02_macro' in file 'libraries\character_macros' as referenced in: index\macros
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 0.00 Macro not found: character_argonalloutfit_male_cau_civ_02_macro
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[General] 0.00 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 0.00 Error in default context: NPCGenerator: No NPC generated using group/ref/macro null. Fallback generator group/ref/macro: argon.trader

Removing the one mod related to argon outfits (a new one though, not the ones from the reddit post) breaks all saves, so I can't test on the old save. Have to test on a new game.

Thanks very much for the hint though!

[magitsu]

Thanks very much for the hint though!

Yeah, might as well test it. Though it might save itself with that fallback "Fallback generator group/ref/macro: argon.trader". Here's a bit similar error code which was supposedly critical: viewtopic.php?p=4927130#p4927130

Other rows which might indicate problems: "[=ERROR=] 0.00 Subordinate for job 'zyarth_carrier_patrol_xl_center' has invalid assignment ''" "[=ERROR=] 0.00 Unable to resolve subordinate job ID: 'court_black_mamba_resupplier_escort_xl'"


At least if you can get the error replicated with kuda alone then get kuertee involved.

[ApoxNM]

Thanks very much for the hint though!

Yeah, might as well test it. Though it might save itself with that fallback "Fallback generator group/ref/macro: argon.trader". Here's a bit similar error code which was supposedly critical: viewtopic.php?p=4927130#p4927130

Other rows which might indicate problems: "[=ERROR=] 0.00 Subordinate for job 'zyarth_carrier_patrol_xl_center' has invalid assignment ''" "[=ERROR=] 0.00 Unable to resolve subordinate job ID: 'court_black_mamba_resupplier_escort_xl'"


At least if you can get the error replicated with kuda alone then get kuertee involved.

Yea, I looked at the Shuffle mod and also contacted the author about it.

When removing the mod, the saves all get stuck at 47%: https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/1021
I am letting a new game run on SETA, without it and with KUDA AI, to see whta happens.

[magitsu]

I tested Diverse Backgrounds and Clothing for Argon mod. That alone at least doesn't seem suspicious: custom game assigned Argon captains and manually ordered ships from either sy/warf seem to get a proper pilot.

Though it's Nexus download had a bad file structure, it had only a folder inside the first folder. So it wasn't identified as an extension by X4 until I removed the first one of ArgonAllOutfits -> ArgonAllOutfits so that the game would see the content.xml in the first folder it looked into.

[ApoxNM]

I tested Diverse Backgrounds and Clothing for Argon mod. That alone at least doesn't seem suspicious: custom game assigned Argon captains and manually ordered ships from either sy/warf seem to get a proper pilot.

Though it's Nexus download had a bad file structure, it had only a folder inside the first folder. So it wasn't identified as an extension by X4 until I removed the first one of ArgonAllOutfits -> ArgonAllOutfits so that the game would see the content.xml in the first folder it looked into.

Hmmm, have to check the folder structure.

[ApoxNM]

Well, I didn't have the problem.

On my new game all seems better (without the Argon mod), just one S shp stuck on one wharf so far, but else seems fine so far.

[ApoxNM]

I also have a bug where sometimes (in an S ship), when I switch to external view I can't see the ships (and also not the cockpit) until I leave the seat.

[DeadAirRT]

I'll give you a hint, it's not kuda.

It probably has something to do with the 100K lines of errors from your mod list.

58K are from cheat mod.

[ApoxNM]

I'll give you a hint, it's not kuda.

It probably has something to do with the 100K lines of errors from your mod list.

58K are from cheat mod.

Thanks for the input. But I installed the Cheatmod after seeing the problem, to try and debug it, it allows me to take over ships with a mous click.
I think the Argon Outfit mod caused it, but I'd have to test a longer new game to be sure.

[kuertee]

Try disabling Diverse Backgrounds and Clothing for Argon.

If those ships are stuck with no pilot, then any mod that affects character creation may be the problem.
Assumptions are based on a short conversation with a player who experienced the same problem and posted about it on Nexus Mods.

[ApoxNM]

Try disabling Diverse Backgrounds and Clothing for Argon.

If those ships are stuck with no pilot, then any mod that affects character creation may be the problem.
Assumptions are based on a short conversation with a player who experienced the same problem and posted about it on Nexus Mods.

Hi kuertee,

Funnily enough, I was that player : )

[kuertee]

hahaha! that is funny.

let me know how you go without the clothing mod.
i'm still unsure if it is it or kuda.

i just finished a coding sprint for the new ironman mode for the Alternatives To Death mod,
so I'll be in "gaming mode" and not "modding mode" in the next few days.
I can keep an eye on on stuck ships at docks while playing.

[ApoxNM]

hahaha! that is funny.

let me know how you go without the clothing mod.
i'm still unsure if it is it or kuda.

i just finished a coding sprint for the new ironman mode for the Alternatives To Death mod,
so I'll be in "gaming mode" and not "modding mode" in the next few days.
I can keep an eye on on stuck ships at docks while playing.

Thanks very much! I don't think it was the Ai mod.
I myself was in modding mode the whole day, but couldn't figure out the problem, made a seperate post about it. But now I have enough, need a break!