[#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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[#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

Please refer the previously made topic in the read only Public beta forum :
viewtopic.php?f=192&t=445655

This is a follow up post to the above ..
First screenshot is the first splash screen I get after launching the exe
https://i.imgur.com/gsxtKTw.png

The above screenshot shows the problem.
As you can see it's not covering the whole screen res.

It then changes to fill the screen a few seconds after
https://i.imgur.com/0GR9vAB.png
.. Only now having installed ToA the screen is the ToA splash image.

In the previous topic @WoodyAut corroborated the issue.

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I now have a new machine (see updated signature)

New DXDiag + VulkanInfo = https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5x3ac0ra8qcj ... 22.7z?dl=0

Game settings on this new machine in the config.xml

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<root>
  <!-- graphic options -->
  <fullscreen>true</fullscreen>
  <borderless>false</borderless>
  <antialiasing>fxaa_low</antialiasing>
  <upmode>fsr_quality</upmode>
  <presentmode>mailbox</presentmode>
  <colorcorrection>0</colorcorrection>
  <gamma>1.00</gamma>
  <capturehq>false</capturehq>
  <gfxquality>0</gfxquality>
  <!-- high gfx preset -->
  <shaderquality>2</shaderquality>
  <shadows>2</shadows>
  <softshadows>true</softshadows>
  <ssao>1</ssao>
  <glow>1</glow>
  <lodfactor>0.50</lodfactor>
  <effectdistance>0.50</effectdistance>
  <distortion>true</distortion>
  <disableradar>false</disableradar>
  <radarquality>1</radarquality>
  <ssr>false</ssr>
  <ssrquality>low</ssrquality>
  <texturequality>high</texturequality>
  <chromaticaberration>true</chromaticaberration>
  <volumetric>0</volumetric>
  <!-- sound options -->
  <nosound>false</nosound>
  <volumetotal>1.00</volumetotal>
  <volumemusic>0.75</volumemusic>
  <volumevoice>1.00</volumevoice>
  <volumeambient>1.00</volumeambient>
  <volumeui>1.00</volumeui>
  <volumeeffects>1.00</volumeeffects>
  <!-- game options -->
  <subtitles>true</subtitles>
  <autosave>false</autosave>
  <autoroll>false</autoroll>
  <toggleboost2>false</toggleboost2>
  <togglemouselook>false</togglemouselook>
  <rumbleintensity>1.00</rumbleintensity>
  <aimassist>1</aimassist>
  <collisionassist>true</collisionassist>
  <controlmodemessages>true</controlmodemessages>
  <radarmode>false</radarmode>
  <stopshipinmenu>false</stopshipinmenu>
  <forceshootatcursor>false</forceshootatcursor>
  <fpusecameraforward>false</fpusecameraforward>
  <separateRadar>true</separateRadar>
  <speaktargetname>true</speaktargetname>
  <autosaveintervalfactor>1.00</autosaveintervalfactor>
  <emergencyeject>true</emergencyeject>
  <mouseovertext>true</mouseovertext>
  <cockpitcamerascale>1.00</cockpitcamerascale>
  <!-- input options -->
  <confinemouse>false</confinemouse>
  <gamepadmode>2</gamepadmode>
  <tobiimode>combined</tobiimode>
  <tobiianglefactor>1.00</tobiianglefactor>
  <tobiigazeanglefactor>0.40</tobiigazeanglefactor>
  <tobiipositionfactor>1.00</tobiipositionfactor>
  <tobiideadzoneangle>0.00</tobiideadzoneangle>
  <tobiideadzoneposition>0.00</tobiideadzoneposition>
  <tobiigazedeadzone>0.10</tobiigazedeadzone>
  <tobiifilterstrength>5</tobiifilterstrength>
  <tobiigazefilterstrength>30</tobiigazefilterstrength>
  <!-- online options -->
  <showvisitornames>false</showvisitornames>
  <highlightvisitors>true</highlightvisitors>
  <!-- privacy options -->
  <sendcrashreports>true</sendcrashreports>
  <!-- accessibility options -->
  <showsignalleakviz>true</showsignalleakviz>
  <showlongrangescanviz>true</showlongrangescanviz>
  <!-- modified settings -->
  <chardensity>0.50</chardensity>
  <trafficdensity>0.50</trafficdensity>
  <res_width>1360</res_width>
  <res_height>768</res_height>
</root>
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As determined in the previous read only topic, I can reproduce the issue :

Using FSR (using Quality, I have not tried other FSR settings) I get the same issue on this new machine.

Without FSR the issue does not occur.

So the issue is not unique to the machine I used to have, and seemingly is related to using FSR which was introduced in the 5.0+ betas and above (I did not have this problem prior to the 5.0 betas)
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Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
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Re: [5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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So the problem is that for a brief moment while the game is loading, but before reaching the main menu, the loading screen is not sized correctly? This problem does not happen at all during gameplay?
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Re: [5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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Yep thats it, nothing major and does not affect the gameplay, its just a clunky startup of the game which was not evident before FSR came along.
Probably just a case of loading timing of FSR.

I see the reduced size splash screen for about 7 seconds, https://i.imgur.com/jcE6Tkp.png

then it re-sizes to normal full screen https://i.imgur.com/LgiOPW4.png ..

.. and stays for about 2 seconds, then I see the Egosoft "Its full of stars" logo animation etcetera etcetera.

= All is normal after that first 7 seconds of reduced size splash screen.
Spec's@2025-05-17 - Laptop - Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 AI - Win 11 x64
CPU - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2.7-5.4ghz, RAM - 32gb DDR5 6400(OC),
Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
, OLED WQXGA 2560x1600.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

Still a minor issue in 6.0 beta 1
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Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

7.00 Beta 1

I still get this issue
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CPU - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2.7-5.4ghz, RAM - 32gb DDR5 6400(OC),
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SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

7 Beta 4 HF 1

I'm starting to wonder why I get all the bugs which are not adressed for YEARS!

Am I a gullible customer who is willing to endure problems?

Its not the first time I have had to endure :evil:

See also this topic viewtopic.php?f=180&t=456976

Which is not the first topic I have been left in the lurch waiting for a fix.

Getting really pissed off.
Spec's@2025-05-17 - Laptop - Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 AI - Win 11 x64
CPU - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2.7-5.4ghz, RAM - 32gb DDR5 6400(OC),
Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
, OLED WQXGA 2560x1600.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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Unfortunately we have been completely unable to reproduce this problem, leaving us with no idea why it's happening for you, and to our knowledge nobody else, and no means to address it.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by WoodyAut »

Hi,

I can confirm - the issue still exists.....maybe this issue only appears on AMD cards, on my current RX 590 it still happens, it also happened on my former AMD card (no idea anymore which chipset it had) - when turning on for example "FSR 1.0 Performance" the first startup screen is shown smaller....
However....this is such a minor minor minor issue.....if it is solved in X9 V120 - nice....but there are much more important things than this few seconds on startup.

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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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CBJ wrote: Tue, 7. May 24, 08:41 Unfortunately we have been completely unable to reproduce this problem, leaving us with no idea why it's happening for you, and to our knowledge nobody else, and no means to address it.
Oh, I thought report topics which have been given a bug reference number in the title meant devs had been able to repro.

Ok well as WoodyAut says its no biggie really, and as far as I can tell it has no knock on effect to the rest of the game. It was just really bugging me that I seem to be unlucky with bugs I find being very long term. I've had a few more in the past which eventually did get resolved, after a few years wait.

@WoodyAut, I dont have anything AMD. CPU is Intel, GPU is NVidia. So system wise I dont think we have anything in common, apart from it starting as FSR was introduced.
Spec's@2025-05-17 - Laptop - Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 AI - Win 11 x64
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Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
, OLED WQXGA 2560x1600.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

I think I have a fix for it (in my case at least)

Since 7 Beta 7 released, I have been trying out Screen Res 1600x900. I am now happy this setting is not going to cause my laptop to heat up more over time so I am staying with it.

A side effect of being in this screen res (I always used to be in 1360x768) is .. This startup screen resizing issue has gone away.
The last 8 times I have loaded up the game, it hasn't happened again.

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So @ Egosoft ..
CBJ wrote: Tue, 7. May 24, 08:41 Unfortunately we have been completely unable to reproduce this problem, leaving us with no idea why it's happening for you, and to our knowledge nobody else, and no means to address it.
.. I wonder if you guys tried screen res 1360x768 listed in my Config.xml in the OP?

I seem to have found quite a few problems over the years which are a result of being in the lower end of the screen res options.
So I am guessing you guys dont have time to check every option you provide with every screen res we can choose.
Anyway not an issue for me going forward with 1600x900.
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CPU - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2.7-5.4ghz, RAM - 32gb DDR5 6400(OC),
Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
, OLED WQXGA 2560x1600.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

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alt3rn1ty wrote: Tue, 7. May 24, 19:33 Oh, I thought report topics which have been given a bug reference number in the title meant devs had been able to repro.
No, it just means we're tracking it.
alt3rn1ty wrote: Tue, 4. Jun 24, 10:18 .. I wonder if you guys tried screen res 1360x768 listed in my Config.xml in the OP?
The developer deleted their own config.xml and used yours instead. They still couldn't reproduce it. I've just tried reproducing it again now, using the resolution but not the whole file. I was also unable to do so. It's not just that we don't have time to try; it's that we have done so, repeatedly, and not found any way to make it happen for us.
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Re: [#117][5.10 HF2] Loading Screen 2 thirds screen size

Post by alt3rn1ty »

Ok thank you, and thank you for all the effort you guys put into support for this game and trying to resolve issues, its not an insignificant task on such a uniquely complex game.
Spec's@2025-05-17 - Laptop - Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 AI - Win 11 x64
CPU - Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX 2.7-5.4ghz, RAM - 32gb DDR5 6400(OC),
Discrete GPU - NVidia Geforce RTX 5070 Ti, VRAM 12gb GDDR7,
SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME 1Tb
, OLED WQXGA 2560x1600.
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