Quick guide to infinite riches... and more! - improvements in upcoming update 1.2

[Sovereign01]

UPDATE: Managed to buy the Nividium mine plans from NMMC. I also gained access to the build software MK3, but I'll need 150M credits to make the purchase so that's going on the back burner.

I also managed to obtain an Enhanced Kea for its best-in-class cargo space in Teladi space, by waiting for the Heavy Osprey it was escorting to leave the sector via the gate then hosing him with eight EBCs from a Perseus I had claimed a while ago. He bailed straight away, I had fired no more than 30 shots so didn't have to worry about any other ships turning hostile or rep loss so now it's on its way to be reverse-engineered!

[Jimmy C]

When looking to capture ships, see if you can find pirates flying those ships first. I got my Enhanced Kea by attacking pirates, I was going after the wingman Ammon but the Kea bailed too, so I took it as well.

[Sovereign01]

When looking to capture ships, see if you can find pirates flying those ships first. I got my Enhanced Kea by attacking pirates, I was going after the wingman Ammon but the Kea bailed too, so I took it as well.

I have noticed pirates flying Split Tigers, considering the Split hate me at the moment it might be the only way I can get one!

[BrigandPhantos77]

I was able to acquire & spend enough influence to get my notoriety to the level I needed for the mining software, I also installed copies on the 10 mistrals that I'd bought (Split currently hate me so they were the fastest TS I could buy, bought my Elephant while I could) and on the Ozias itself so I'm trying out mining the 1-Nividium asteroids in Holy Vision Epsilon.

No luck stealing the build plans, I'm going to need to get some more agents for both that and the JD installation kit that Terracorp offer. What other stuff do the corporations have that I should acquire?

Sorry I've been away playing other things. I'm never hated by NMMC so I apologize for that. As for the selling part of the Nividium, you can sell it from anywhere you choose. But the most profitable place is the PHQ since it doesn't cap you at small amount like a Trading Dock / Equipment Dock will. And the base mine itself holds 10/12 max? When merchants come to your PHQ they will buy enough to fill there holds. For me that has been on average 600 units of Nividium per visit. Sometimes I get multiple visits.

The ship I recommended as your roid buster can hold the Mobile Drilling System. And has a large cargo capacity. Plus strong shields for smashing into the rocks. I believe the ships labelled mining variants has the mining command software "built in". So you won't need to visit NMMC if you use those variants. I got a couple screen shots from my game if you need them. The downside to these smaller variants is you will not only need to empty there holds more frequently, but repair them more often as the AI can be dumb with the hull damage.

Again apologies on how long it took for me to respond.

[BrigandPhantos77]

Thanks, now my question is, how do I get more discovery points? I've already visited every sector I have access to (haven't been able to start the Terran plot yet, I assume I have to build a TOA for that to happen which I've heard is one of the few ways to get points?

Some asteroids give points when scanned. Clicking on one such asteroid will tell you how many points, but the player-ship has to be the one doing the scanning or you don't get any. Most asteroids in discovered sectors give points.

Revisiting sectors will randomly give you points as well. I don't know the amount, but I believe its a number of sectors per hour revisited as you re-establish what is there.

[Sovereign01]

I did get the JD kits from Terracorp and the Nividium mine from MNNC, I did manage to sell about 1.500 Nividium from the PHQ though I had to set the price to average-1 before anyone bought any, making 25M credits.

I've been mining the unclaimed sector next to Xenon 534, got 12 ships on the job: 10 mistrals, 1 Consus based at an Ozias, each TS has the mobile drilling system and ore collector. They've been at it 20 hours and gathered 11,000 Nividium and they still haven't gotten all of it from the 5-yield asteroid, never mind the hitherto-untouched 3 and 7. I've even tasked the Ozias itself with assisting the mining, so far the Mistrals have only each had to offload their contents to the transporter-equipped Ozias once.

Is there anything else I can do to accelerate the process apart from buying more Mistral-filled Ozias'? I chose those as the fastest TS that can equip the drill. I've been leaving them to it OOS so no worries about collision damage.

[BrigandPhantos77]

I did get the JD kits from Terracorp and the Nividium mine from MNNC, I did manage to sell about 1.500 Nividium from the PHQ though I had to set the price to average-1 before anyone bought any, making 25M credits.

I've been mining the unclaimed sector next to Xenon 534, got 12 ships on the job: 10 mistrals, 1 Consus based at an Ozias, each TS has the mobile drilling system and ore collector. They've been at it 20 hours and gathered 11,000 Nividium and they still haven't gotten all of it from the 5-yield asteroid, never mind the hitherto-untouched 3 and 7. I've even tasked the Ozias itself with assisting the mining, so far the Mistrals have only each had to offload their contents to the transporter-equipped Ozias once.

Is there anything else I can do to accelerate the process apart from buying more Mistral-filled Ozias'? I chose those as the fastest TS that can equip the drill. I've been leaving them to it OOS so no worries about collision damage.

The only thing I do beyond that is send in a regular transport to take my goods to PHQ. That way none of my miners ever have to pause.

[Hwitvlf]

Is there anything else I can do to accelerate the process apart from buying more Mistral-filled Ozias'? I chose those as the fastest TS that can equip the drill. I've been leaving them to it OOS so no worries about collision damage.

You can actually home-base tons of miners to a single Ozias since they only dock when offloading minerals. I have 22 miners based to my one Ozias. The TL is mining too so it auto-unloads at the HQ when full. If you want to go even faster, try getting in the Ozias and flying into the Nividium field at a very slow speed but with SETA on 10x. If your shields get low, just stop and wait for them to refill. You can usually collect a full cargo within about 15 minutes. It helps to use external view (f2) so you can see the rocks better.

[Sovereign01]

Is there anything else I can do to accelerate the process apart from buying more Mistral-filled Ozias'? I chose those as the fastest TS that can equip the drill. I've been leaving them to it OOS so no worries about collision damage.

You can actually home-base tons of miners to a single Ozias since they only dock when offloading minerals. I have 22 miners based to my one Ozias. The TL is mining too so it auto-unloads at the HQ when full. If you want to go even faster, try getting in the Ozias and flying into the Nividium field at a very slow speed but with SETA on 10x. If your shields get low, just stop and wait for them to refill. You can usually collect a full cargo within about 15 minutes. It helps to use external view (f2) so you can see the rocks better.

Am I supposed to get tens of thousands of Nividium out of a yield-5 asteroid or is there something weird going on? I could try flying the Ozias manually, it's certainly well-shielded for a TL.

[BrigandPhantos77]

If you ever fly in system with those rocks, they are actually quite big in size. You can use as many collectors as you want, but personally, I only use as many as the Ozias can hold. Simple fact, if an enemy jumps in I prefer to be able to dock all my ships and jump them out as one. Saves a bit of credits on jump drives. But it's completely up to you how many you choose to use. My method was merely a starting point for anyone needing a bit of guidance.

[Sovereign01]

Well it took almost a day (23h 41m) but my miners finally cleared that yield-5 Nividium asteroid out past Getsu Fune to the tune of 14,148 Nividium so I'm sending the Ozias along with its miners to offload at the HQ before starting on the next roid.

[BrigandPhantos77]

Well it took almost a day (23h 41m) but my miners finally cleared that yield-5 Nividium asteroid out past Getsu Fune to the tune of 14,148 Nividium so I'm sending the Ozias along with its miners to offload at the HQ before starting on the next roid.

Nice. The profits from it should be enough to make even the most seasoned Teladi blush.

[Sovereign01]

Well it took almost a day (23h 41m) but my miners finally cleared that yield-5 Nividium asteroid out past Getsu Fune to the tune of 14,148 Nividium so I'm sending the Ozias along with its miners to offload at the HQ before starting on the next roid.

Nice. The profits from it should be enough to make even the most seasoned Teladi blush.

I hope so, I'm going to need every single credit I can get hold of to start building complexes if I'm to ever make TOAs! I know it sells well when I set the price to average-1. The only other place that produces Nividium is the one mine in PTNI HQ, so if I set my price to be 1 credit less than that mine, will it still sell?

[Jimmy C]

You can also get materials by recycling captured ships. 10 frigates or 20 corvettes should cover it. I got the materials for my first TOA entirely by capturing and buying because I didn't want to build the complex until I had that sector. Also gives your marines a workout.

I haven't sold a captured ship yet and I won't until I get that last TOA out.

[Sovereign01]

For that I will need a ship that can launch boarding pods, I feel like it's a chicken-and-egg situation going on since all the ships that can launch them need pods to be boarded in the first place. Meaning I'm going to have to buy myself an M7M first.

[BrigandPhantos77]

Well it took almost a day (23h 41m) but my miners finally cleared that yield-5 Nividium asteroid out past Getsu Fune to the tune of 14,148 Nividium so I'm sending the Ozias along with its miners to offload at the HQ before starting on the next roid.

Nice. The profits from it should be enough to make even the most seasoned Teladi blush.

I hope so, I'm going to need every single credit I can get hold of to start building complexes if I'm to ever make TOAs! I know it sells well when I set the price to average-1. The only other place that produces Nividium is the one mine in PTNI HQ, so if I set my price to be 1 credit less than that mine, will it still sell?

In theory it should. I've dropped it by -100 credits. You can expect roughly 600 units to sell at a time. And there is always the possibility of multiple ships arriving at once. So keep the docking arms for TS/TP clear if you want that to happen. I've personally been able to purchase 3 Ozias, more than half the materials to make a TOA, my first Cerberus off the Nividium I have mined. Not to mention gotten many stations up and running.

And I still have a ton of credits left over, not to mention my fleet hasn't finished mining our unclaimed sector.

[Jimmy C]

For that I will need a ship that can launch boarding pods, I feel like it's a chicken-and-egg situation going on since all the ships that can launch them need pods to be boarded in the first place. Meaning I'm going to have to buy myself an M7M first.

A suggestion, seek missions from the Split. You get money and notoriety, then you get high enough notoriety to buy a Cobra, Boarding Pods and Marines. Everything you need to conduct a boarding. You should think about an M6 that can equip Ion Disruptors too. Being able to fry troublesome equipment increases your options. Not every ship has CBS and anti-boarding equipment in the end.

[Sovereign01]

For that I will need a ship that can launch boarding pods, I feel like it's a chicken-and-egg situation going on since all the ships that can launch them need pods to be boarded in the first place. Meaning I'm going to have to buy myself an M7M first.

A suggestion, seek missions from the Split. You get money and notoriety, then you get high enough notoriety to buy a Cobra, Boarding Pods and Marines. Everything you need to conduct a boarding. You should think about an M6 that can equip Ion Disruptors too. Being able to fry troublesome equipment increases your options. Not every ship has CBS and anti-boarding equipment in the end.

That will be a while, Split currently hate me and I'm trying to build Duke rep which will reduce my Paranid rep enough to let me get the OTAS Sirokos. And Dukes hate the Split also

[Hwitvlf]

The easiest way to get an M7M in early game is to find one that doesn't have lasers (Paranid etc), and is out of missises, then do a spacewalk boarding from a TP. Sometimes it's hard for the marines to catch it, but it helps if you damage it's hull to slow it down, and constantly fly into its path so it slows down to avoid collision.

[mhooma]

I am by no means an expert. But I want to share something I learned that has helped me make a good amount of credits.

There is a widely known sector where you can mine Nividium. And does it respawn still? I have no clue. None of my Nividium has respawned as of 14 days in game.

The following ships I recommend for this operation. This is a let it go and check back operation.
Sector Location:

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Getsu Fune : Go north then west. Check your distance settings loading your game. There should be a distant cluster of asteroids. This initial trip should be made in a fast m4/m5 ship. Recommend at least 500 m/s speed. There are 3 asteroids available; 1, 5 and 7 in there values.

Pre-scan the whole system with a mineral scanner.

Recommended ships.
Ozias Goner TL
Consus - Roid Buster; Must have mining command software, Mobile Drilling System, Special Command Software
5 Any Type TS with Ore Collector, Special Command Software

Mercury and Demeters can equip the mobile drill. But you will have to repair them after a while. The Consus should be fine with it's 200MJ shields.
I'd recommend the following as well.
Ozias must have a Jump Drive and Transporter Device. Stay OOS doing this. I'd recommend using a TS as a fuel-energy cell hauler. Ideally you'd want a jump drive on all TS involved as well.

Jump the Ozias in. Move To the Nearest Roid containing the Nividium. Then launch the Roid Buster to mine for Nividium, launch the other 5 TS and have them collect rocks. They should collect the Nividium with the Roid Buster. Check back every so often and use the Transporter to pull the Nividium into the Ozias Cargo Hold. I actually use 2 of these TL's, using the second as a ferry to transport the mined to me HQ.

Nividium will sell regular from your HQ. You may have to drop the price a 100 credits every so often to encourage the traders to come, and occasionally it may take a while. 3000 Nividium is a hefty chunk of change when it sells.

15,974 x 3000 = 47,922,000 credits.

The value of those 3 asteroids is a lot more than a jump beacon. I've purchased so far - Boron EQ Dock, Boron Trading Station, Argon Cerberus, 2nd Ozias, Finished my 1st TOA for a HSAP. And currently sitting on 92 million personal account. So far only Strong Arms hate me, but the Paranid love me. Thinking of buying a Deimos to compliment the Cerberus.

Ozias base cost is 15,125,000 (Roguey's site) - I think in game its more like 19\20 million
Consus base cost is 6,332,000 (Roguey's site) - I think in game its more like 10\11 million
Roguey's prices feel low compared to in-game. HQ cost?
Jump Drives are 360k a piece.
Startup cost is about 33 million all together. (factoring in Mobile Drill and Transporter)

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I wonder if I can convince the Boron to invade Rhonkar's Trial. That way I can visit the Beta site again. You can buy Cargo Life Support also in Great Trench from the Boron Research Station. As well as Pirate Stations provided you have the reputation.

To get a Mobile Drill you may have to encourage one of the Paranid factories with the resources to make one.

how do you sell nvidium? in my game all the docks are full of nvidium. i discovered it the hard way after building xl mine on the sector above getsu fune on the nvidium with rating 40. i could not sell that stuff.