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GCU Grey Area wrote: Mon, 30. Nov 20, 23:38 Think facial genetics are passed down.
This is not what I'd normally expect a Scandinavian emperor to look like:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0d6lfp6rpyhsf ... 1.jpg?dl=0
Not exactly a "generic culture based template" for a Norwegian.

Though perhaps not particularly surprising since this was his mother:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6vvwwwscclpq ... 1.jpg?dl=0
...and his grandfather:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2mf4hiw9n7cb ... 1.jpg?dl=0
I think those are more due to the giant trait though, I think the apperance-alter traits apply a modifier to the templates, and not gene related. Have you compare the look without an appearance enhance trait?

The reason I think it's template based because there are games I went of my way to mix up the blood through multiple generation from different cultures. But the children seem always to come out looking like their culture template.
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Mightysword wrote: Mon, 30. Nov 20, 23:57 I think those are more due to the giant trait though, I think the apperance-alter traits apply a modifier to the templates, and not gene related. Have you compare the look without an appearance enhance trait?
Bit tricky to do. It was those 2 African marriages which brought the Giant trait into the family line (on both sides initially to make sure it stuck) & all subsequent rulers have had it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0d6lfp6rpyhsf ... 1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/joe31zzi2l504 ... 1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk9jmiox2m643 ... 1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/683dugtsf4b3x ... 1.jpg?dl=0
However it is perhaps significant that as time passed each generation's ruler has looked a little bit less African & a bit more typically European - subsequent marriages tended to be a bit closer to home. That's why I think each character's features are derived from their parents appearance, rather than just created from a generic cultural template.
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CosmicVoyager wrote: Mon, 30. Nov 20, 08:53As a Stellaris Vet i can safely assume that he means the bad MP peformance, usually riddled with desyncs and disconnects. I would be surprised if Paradox were able to pull off a stable MP in CK3, but i can only guess because i've only played eu4 and stellaris as mentioned. :gruebel:
I play Stellaris MP almost once a week with 4 other people on Huge (1000) map and the times we had sync issues were related to own internet connection problems.

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Mightysword wrote: Mon, 30. Nov 20, 22:32
BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: Mon, 30. Nov 20, 10:12 Never tried multiplayer in Paradox, but could be funny indeed.

By the way, the character designer is comically good: beautiful dwarves will conquer the world!
Question, does the facial genetic passed down to children? Or the children are still gonna be just generic culture based templates?

Even before the designer became available I never messed with custom ruler either since I don't see the point. The first generation last like ...3h top before dying out and a game tend to last at least a dozen generations.
They definitely do: at one point, I married with an african woman with good inehritable traits and compatible character: the cisalpinian-african children where clearly younglings from both worlds, with light skin and slightly bigger lips. One of them even had a darker skin (a middle ground between the white of the father and the milk-chocolate of the mother), and those traits were passing to grandchildren too, diluting them a bit. I kinda like how genetics works, it's pretty realistic (very simplified, of course) having a chance to inherit congenital traits and facial looks decreasing generation after generation.
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So if you create a dwaft with the creator, you can maintain a dwaft lineage through generations?
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Mightysword wrote: Tue, 1. Dec 20, 20:54 So if you create a dwaft with the creator, you can maintain a dwaft lineage through generations?
Yes, but dwarf gene decreases chances to appear through generations. This means if your child isn't a dwarf and his child isn't a dwarf, the gene gets lost (and has the standard smallish chance to appear in the following generations).
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BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: Thu, 3. Dec 20, 08:50
Mightysword wrote: Tue, 1. Dec 20, 20:54 So if you create a dwaft with the creator, you can maintain a dwaft lineage through generations?
Yes, but dwarf gene decreases chances to appear through generations. This means if your child isn't a dwarf and his child isn't a dwarf, the gene gets lost (and has the standard smallish chance to appear in the following generations).
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Sorry for the confusion but I just realize we're not talking about the same thing lol. When you said "dwarf", I thought you meant you created a dwarf looking, and not the dwarf trait. To clarify: there is the gene (that long string you can copy from the designer), and there are traits (beauty, genius, amazonian, dwarf, giant, albedo ...etc...). It's not the trait I'm concern about.

My question is about the gene that passed down, so if I create a character with a unique gene, would it be possible to maintain that gene through generation without it turning into a generic template?
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Mightysword wrote: Thu, 3. Dec 20, 19:25
BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: Thu, 3. Dec 20, 08:50
Mightysword wrote: Tue, 1. Dec 20, 20:54 So if you create a dwaft with the creator, you can maintain a dwaft lineage through generations?
Yes, but dwarf gene decreases chances to appear through generations. This means if your child isn't a dwarf and his child isn't a dwarf, the gene gets lost (and has the standard smallish chance to appear in the following generations).
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Sorry for the confusion but I just realize we're not talking about the same thing lol. When you said "dwarf", I thought you meant you created a dwarf looking, and not the dwarf trait. To clarify: there is the gene (that long string you can copy from the designer), and there are traits (beauty, genius, amazonian, dwarf, giant, albedo ...etc...). It's not the trait I'm concern about.

My question is about the gene that passed down, so if I create a character with a unique gene, would it be possible to maintain that gene through generation without it turning into a generic template?
Oh, ok sorry!
It should work as the traits work, so it's not granted you're maintaining it through generations.
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New Mass Effect trailer was released. The game is in early development.

https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
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burger1 wrote: Tue, 15. Dec 20, 20:41 New Mass Effect trailer was released. The game is in early development.

https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
I wonder if it's Liara at the end (her face looks really similar). If that's the case it means we're back to the original storyline, don't mind they abandon the Andromada story line after that disasterclass.
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burger1 wrote: Tue, 15. Dec 20, 20:41 New Mass Effect trailer was released. The game is in early development.

https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
I have hope. I loved Mass Effect, it was a masterpiece.
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I've been having a go at Pillars of Eternity after it became free on Epic.

I like RPGs but this one seems a little punishing. It's got to the point where every encounter I seem to get slaughtered.
I like the the stronghold though. Now if I could just find a way to defend the thing.
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Mightysword wrote: Tue, 15. Dec 20, 23:45
burger1 wrote: Tue, 15. Dec 20, 20:41 New Mass Effect trailer was released. The game is in early development.

https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao
I wonder if it's Liara at the end (her face looks really similar). If that's the case it means we're back to the original storyline, don't mind they abandon the Andromada story line after that disasterclass.
I absolutely adored the 1st Mass Effect, never completed the second and never tried the other(s)? - The trailer doesn't give too much away other than it does seem to suggest a return to its roots. If that's the case, I'm definitely in.
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Gavrushka wrote: Wed, 16. Dec 20, 10:39 I absolutely adored the 1st Mass Effect, never completed the second and never tried the other(s)? - The trailer doesn't give too much away other than it does seem to suggest a return to its roots. If that's the case, I'm definitely in.
IMO the original triology improved a lot at each iteration in term of gameplay, quality over quantity. Sadly Mass Effect 3's ending was also a disaster-class, a typical case of the writers trying too hard and narrative trying to be bigger than what it is. My guess the 4th game had to take place in another galaxy because the original effectively blocked itself from continuing in the milky way.

If they're coming back to it, some kind of recton to the third game ending may be necessary - and that would be a cheap price to pay.
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Mightysword wrote: Wed, 16. Dec 20, 19:59 IMO the original triology improved a lot at each iteration in term of gameplay, quality over quantity. Sadly Mass Effect 3's ending was also a disaster-class, a typical case of the writers trying too hard and narrative trying to be bigger than what it is.
I've said it before, possibly even in this thread, but the seeds of the plot disaster that was ME3's ending were sown when they decided to have you spend the whole of ME2 fighting an irrelevant secondary threat and doing approximately three fifths of naff all about the real problem, the Reapers. They had to cram what should have been two games' worth of plot into a single game thanks to that, not surprising the wheels came off.
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pjknibbs wrote: Wed, 16. Dec 20, 21:01 I've said it before, possibly even in this thread, but the seeds of the plot disaster that was ME3's ending were sown when they decided to have you spend the whole of ME2 fighting an irrelevant secondary threat and doing approximately three fifths of naff all about the real problem, the Reapers.
Yes, we had that discussion here. :)

I believe ME2 is a fine game, at the very least if one to judge it on its own. To re-iterate my point, I think there is enough world building and lore-dump in ME2 for it to be relevant. I don't think it's fair to judge ME2 because of what happens in ME3.
They had to cram what should have been two games' worth of plot into a single game thanks to that, not surprising the wheels came off.
On this point I agree:
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The first mission where you discover the plan for the crucible on Mar is just way too convenience. You mean the secret super weapon we need to defeat the Reaper has been under our nose all along? The building of the Crucible was totally off-screen saved for a few text update. You spent a large amount of time to shore up citadel defense and it has nothing to show for it
But those are the problem of the 3rd game and I think should not be attributed to the 2nd. If they don't have enough space, then Bioware should have split the third game into 2 games, I think most fan would be more than happy to pay for a 4th Shepard game over that thing called Andromeda. In fact, both of us are recent beneficiaries of such an example just like that: Trail of Cold Steel 4. That series was originally planned for 3 games, but during the development of the third the writers realize the story kinda blew up and they need another game to close it off properly. That's why the 4th game feels very similar to the third, and it was able to afford a grand stage for the ending with a full all stars line up.
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To me ME2 was the best one - sweet spot between action and light RPG, storyline was fun (secret agent under Cerberus investigating the Collectors), Normandy build up and interactions were perfect, side characters were interesting and had their storylines and loyalty missions and YOUR CHOICES MATTER IN FINAL MISSION...more than just ending background color.

ME1 was too clunky old school (albeit I missed Mako rover in ME2) and ME3 was nothing more than on rail shooter masked as action RPG - gathering the focess to fight Reapers was unimportant card-collection - they didn't even bothered to simply add an ending where you gather enough forces to kick Reaper ass in straight out fight.
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So i decided to give Prison Architect a try, currently free on GOG. First problem, couldn't get the thing to run but unlike Epic, GOG has a forum and it turns out a few are having the exact same problem but due to GOG having a forum, it's possible to find a solution. Turns out it is to do with the game needing microsoft redistributable 2013 x64 and the game itself not installing it, I have linked it if you have the problem of the game not starting. I have to say the game itself does not seem to have any kind of meaningful tutorial, you are thrown in at the deep end right at the start, without a clue on what you are meant to be doing or more importantly how you actually do it. I ended up quitting the game after a few minutes of scratching my head, I will need to go and look up some help video on Youtube, which you should never have to do.

Also throw in. The second mass effect was the best while that buggy in the first was originally a fun feature, on my second play through of the game I found it just to be a pain in the backside and was glad it was missed out on the second game. Also the scanning of planets was a pain in the rear, where if it had been missed out of the game, I would never have missed it. Also remember the last mess effect, less said about that one the better.
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felter wrote: Thu, 17. Dec 20, 18:45 Also remember the last mess effect, less said about that one the better.
I don't know if that is a typo or intended, but I got a chuckle out of it. :D
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Intended. :)

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