[Mod] XR Ship Pack - 6.0 ready!

[alexalsp]

To the save tag... what is it for?

This parameter indicates whether the mod can be safely disabled.

In your case, this is not possible. If you disable the mod, all ships associated with it will be removed from the game. This will lead to errors and problems continuing the game.

And the parameter == 1 will not allow you to load the save file without your mod.

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[xWolfzx]

For Balor, I feel like the number of turrets should be dropped, perhaps remove 6 ( 3 from each side). Reasoning being that I can solo a K with only losing half shields, and that is only using Pulse and Bolt turrets and I was deliberating getting underneath the K where I can expose the ship to most of the K's guns, what happens is that, due to the sheer amount of turrets (2x more than a K) my Balor simply strips all the turrets from the K rather quickly due to superior turret coverage and plummets it easily.

My personal opinion in terms of balance is that no L class ships should be stronger than a K at close range especially when a K does not carry small ships or missile and it is easily 2 times bigger than any L ships. Also within the lore, Xenon ships are supposed to outclass any ships the flesh bags can build so I rather not my tiny Balor solo it that easily without exploiting its vulnerabilities. But those are just my personal opinions in terms of balance, I do still enjoy the ships and will still play this incredible mod.

[Max Bain]

For Balor, I feel like the number of turrets should be dropped, perhaps remove 6 ( 3 from each side). Reasoning being that I can solo a K with only losing half shields, and that is only using Pulse and Bolt turrets and I was deliberating getting underneath the K where I can expose the ship to most of the K's guns, what happens is that, due to the sheer amount of turrets (2x more than a K) my Balor simply strips all the turrets from the K rather quickly due to superior turret coverage and plummets it easily.

My personal opinion in terms of balance is that no L class ships should be stronger than a K at close range especially when a K does not carry small ships or missile and it is easily 2 times bigger than any L ships. Also within the lore, Xenon ships are supposed to outclass any ships the flesh bags can build so I rather not my tiny Balor solo it that easily without exploiting its vulnerabilities. But those are just my personal opinions in terms of balance, I do still enjoy the ships and will still play this incredible mod.

I completely agree with you that the Ks should be stronger than any destroyer. In fact the K is an XL ship (so more like a battleship).
But balancing the ships to the K would result in very limited ships. The K has only 13 turrets.

The problem here lies within the K itsel. It is simply way too weak. The best fix here would be to make the weapons of the Xenon much stronger or give them (nearly all) addinional turrets because not only the K is too weak in my opinion.

My plan is to make an overhaul mod after the Ship Pack that will fix the balancing (or at least try to) and improve some effects and many sounds. But this takes time, so first I want to add enough ships as a core for a following mod.

Edit: I think you dont even need a balor to defeat a K.. a Behemoth can do this as well. It has fewer turrets, but it has 2 extra large front weapons and an extra L turret. Shouldnt be much weaker than a Balor.

[xWolfzx]

I've actually tried with a Behemoth / Oddy before, and no, I cannot win at knife range simply because of the weapon coverage as well as the smaller amount of turrets means that I am not able to strip the K's turrets unlike with the Balor which can actually fire 19 turrets if you face towards the L turret.

But yeah, I get what you mean, the balancing of vanilla ships is just... bad, that compounded with the fact that M class turrets and weapon ranges are too short for the AI to use them effectively is making me play X4 only occasionally and right now just to test around with your ships... when I'm not at the gym, at work, watching shows and playing destiny 2

[Max Bain]

I've actually tried with a Behemoth / Oddy before, and no, I cannot win at knife range simply because of the weapon coverage as well as the smaller amount of turrets means that I am not able to strip the K's turrets unlike with the Balor which can actually fire 19 turrets if you face towards the L turret.

But yeah, I get what you mean, the balancing of vanilla ships is just... bad, that compounded with the fact that M class turrets and weapon ranges are too short for the AI to use them effectively is making me play X4 only occasionally and right now just to test around with your ships... when I'm not at the gym, at work, watching shows and playing destiny 2

Keep in mind that only because the Behemoth can not shoot with all turrets at one target, it will be able to shoot in bigger battles with many targets. So a 1vs1 comparison is not always the best to for balancing.

But I will check the Balor again and maybe I can remove 2 or 4 turrets. But the side turrets fit perfect to its design so I dont want to remove them. Also it shall have more turrets than the Behemoth because it lacks 3 L turrets (one L should weight like 2-4 M turrets at least).

Yes please give me more feedback. Especially if you find any bugs...

[Max Bain]

Uploaded 0.9.4.0 including 3 more XL non combat ships (screenshots in second post).

Enjoy

[Thecrippler]

without breath wowow

[Max Bain]

Mod is now on steam as well

[Staberind]

The Balor & Red Knight [Gangrene Chaser] Are awesome, however, is this compatible with "scaleplate use all" (gives the pirates more choice in their ships...) ?
I think its quicker if I answer my own question and see if it needs to be adjusted..
Groovy in the meantime!

[Max Bain]

The Balor & Red Knight [Gangrene Chaser] Are awesome, however, is this compatible with "scaleplate use all" (gives the pirates more choice in their ships...) ?
I think its quicker if I answer my own question and see if it needs to be adjusted..
Groovy in the meantime!

It depends on what you mean with compatible...
the mod should work with every other mod as long as the mod does not use the same ship IDs, which I doubt anyone does. So it should work with all mods.
But I dont know what your mod you are using does, so if your pirate mod adds more ships to the pirate factions, the ships inside this ship pack wont be added to the pirates factions. But you still can build them and the 3 main races will build the ships without a problem.
However, I will add at least some of the ships in this pack to the pirate factions anyway.

[Staberind]

Awesome, Cheers.

[Max Bain]

You are welcome.

Just uploaded 0.9.5.
Changelog and pics on first page.

Enjoy

[wesley32]

Great mod, enjoying this alot! I'm trying to recreate the X:R sectors in X4. Works well together!

[Max Bain]

Great mod, enjoying this alot! I'm trying to recreate the X:R sectors in X4. Works well together!

Thank you! Nice to hear you like it .

[Warnoise]

Hi, question:

1-Does the balor use its main Missiles battery?
2-Does the Sucellus use its main gun?

[Max Bain]

Hi, question:

1-Does the balor use its main Missiles battery?
2-Does the Sucellus use its main gun?

In x4 there are no Missile batteries (yeah that sucks). So no, the balor only uses missile turrets if equipped.
The Sucellus uses its main guns only if you equip them. It has 3 slots for main weapons.

Just check it out

[ns88ns]

Hi, Max Bain.

Question: There is folder XR_ShipPack\units_size_l_ice_collector_data in the extension. The same folder exists in XR_ShipPack\assets\units\size_xl\units_size_l_ice_collector_data

It looks like XR_ShipPack\units_size_l_ice_collector_data is kind of lost garbage. Could you, please, confirm?

Thank you in advance.

[Max Bain]

Hi, Max Bain.

Question: There is folder XR_ShipPack\units_size_l_ice_collector_data in the extension. The same folder exists in XR_ShipPack\assets\units\size_xl\units_size_l_ice_collector_data

It looks like XR_ShipPack\units_size_l_ice_collector_data is kind of lost garbage. Could you, please, confirm?

Thank you in advance.

Yepp. You can delete the folder in the root directory. I normally work in that direction before I convert the model files, so I forgot to delete the folder.

[ns88ns]

Got it.
Thank you for your mod and your time you spent to create it.

[darklead]

Great mod!! Is there any chance to see the Albion Skunk in future?