Auto Funds transfer from station?

[TheInspector]

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I have set up a graphene refinery station complemented with gas miners and two transports. Naturally I have been earning a fair amount of credits, and in past versions I have always manually collected revenue, but now it seems the station manager automatically transfers funds.

I want to know the pattern that funds transfers occur, I've noticed that the manager will always reduce funds until there are 250K cr left in the station's account. (I think this is what I set the operating budget to) But the rate at which transfers occur seems to be random. Has anyone else noticed this and/or found the answer?

[Alan Phipps]

I think this may be what you were after.

[waynetarlton]

Thanks for the info but, I've not idea what lua is and I'm not identifying where in the menu systems I should be looking.
I've looking in the station info, station logical overview, the account management menu including via empire overview, game setting options.

Not sure where else to look.

[ZonedOut]

I haven't actually tried to look at the scripts or lua, but I thought the general rule was that after you set the amount the manager has at 1.5 times that you would get a transfer. Set the slider to 1M and at 1.5M you get the .5M and the station starts back at 1M. But again, that's just from what I've seen playing the game.

[Alan Phipps]

Nobody said to look in the lua or scripts, just read what j.harshaw said @ Murry and Coops in the link I posted.

[waynetarlton]

I haven't actually tried to look at the scripts or lua, but I thought the general rule was that after you set the amount the manager has at 1.5 times that you would get a transfer. Set the slider to 1M and at 1.5M you get the .5M and the station starts back at 1M. But again, that's just from what I've seen playing the game.

Where does one set the amount with the manager?

[Stonehouse]

Set the credits amount of the station to 1M it will start telling you at 0.5M to add more and it will transfere 1M to you if it reaches 3M (so reducing station to 2M)

(My 50M station transfered 50M and still had around 100M left)

[waynetarlton]

Ah, thank you so much.

If I've got this right the Set Amount (SA) in Station menu, manage funds, is the base figure:
SA x 0.5 = trigger to ask for money
SA x 3 = trigger to transfer (SAx2) back to me

Great!!

Thanks.
Wayne

[ZonedOut]

I haven't actually tried to look at the scripts or lua, but I thought the general rule was that after you set the amount the manager has at 1.5 times that you would get a transfer. Set the slider to 1M and at 1.5M you get the .5M and the station starts back at 1M. But again, that's just from what I've seen playing the game.

Where does one set the amount with the manager?

Choose the station, right click on it, choose manage funds
https://i.imgur.com/9dKCjrY.jpg
Move the account slider
https://i.imgur.com/y5eVjJ2.jpg
That station was originally set for 1B and a typical deposit will show in the logs as:
https://i.imgur.com/35HUfcV.jpg

Hope that helps.

[Stonehouse]

SA x 3 = trigger to transfer (SAx2) back to me

may i get that wrong but it does not transfer SAx2 back to you, it does transfer SAx1 back to you and keep SAx2 at the station (so the station has a credit buffer range from SAx0.5 to SAx2)

[Tamina]

But what is the SA x 0.5 for? Doesn't the station already calculate a minimum budget requirement and if it asks for money and you transfer money, doesn't that change all values again?

[Stonehouse]

But what is the SA x 0.5 for? Doesn't the station already calculate a minimum budget requirement and if it asks for money and you transfer money, doesn't that change all values again?

It is a bit weird, if we state that the minimum budget is calculated right and we transfere that amount rounded up the station should NEVER ask for more cause the station knows it got SA transfered.
But ES messed it up, the call for money is done by something like: current amount (CA) < minimum budget (MB) x 0.5 (or maybe CA < SA x 0.5)
And not done like: if (CA < MB x 0.5) and (SA < MB) then "Scream for help"
Otherwise if SA >=MB it should never run out (ok now the station could also do negative trades if the station buy high and sell low, but WHY should the manager buy high priced resources if the storage is full of products? that should be connected to only start buyn high resources if the product storage is also low, but thats another problem)

if it asks for money, and you transfer the miminum budget again it doesnt add these, cause u dont set a value to be added you adjust the station account at all.

So if you transfer 1M to a station demanding 1M minimum it will call for supply at 0.5m (cause of the problem pointed at above) so you adjust the station account back to 1M, (you transfer 0.5m to the station but all that count for calculation is the 1M and not the newly added 0.5M)
The station should now work without problems cause it already spend 0.5M and could spend another 0.5M before calling for help again, so 0.5m+0.5m = 1M minimum wanted budget

So im at the moment not sure if the call for help is done at SA x 0.5 or MB x 0.5 if it is done at MB x 0.5 you just have to add > MB x 1.5 but if it is calculated at SA you have to add > MB x 2

Edit: oh and as far as i noticed, the "Expected operating budget" did not change, it is the budget the station would need if empty, it would be nice if there is a value just showing the current needed credits to full stock the resources, but that would also need a change at the "calling for help" behavior

Edit2: ok strange is the upkeep mission where you have to transfer credits...
first the station just wanted to keep the min budget, thats kinda useless cause if u transfer the amount the mission is calling for and the station is empty it will call again for money if it bought stuff...again and again, ES has to switch stuff here, the calculation for that mission and the help calls has to consider the amount you already adjusted at the station, if that amount is > than the minimum budget there is no need for help call nor upkeep mission, may only ask for money if drop to 1%
second: transfering a amount only work at the Account Management, there you could add money to transfere but if i access the station via information or manage founds or logical overview i can't transfer a amount, i only could adjust the budget at all ...