[1.31/1.32] Wharf full storage except engine parts. Not producing nor buying (100% storage) - Fix in 1.50 b4

[rombone]

Several of my stations are now full, like they were before 1.5 beta that i'm playing on, missing varying wares. the Teladi one I purchase from in specific is missing hull parts.

[Elliosh]

Most of my wharfs and shipyards seem to have their wares wildly out of proportion. Most have like 40-60k missle or weapon parts, and like 2000 hull parts. Ergo, they cant build anything and most, their storage is so full they can't or won't buy hull parts, I've tried to deliver what they need. I can't see any way to resolve this apart from an inventory wipe via a patch or going in and hacking my savegame somehow, to wipe their storage and let them rebuy in proper amounts. I'm using 1.5 beta btw.

[Alan Phipps]

Also see here.

[dyderich]

Issue I am seeing is close but different......in my game, all the stations need certain parts, but as I have selected the cargo haulers to load and deliver them I am now finding that the station actually CANNOT store enough of the materials as it is 100% max on that material but not max on total storage - it will not accept my hauler to trade with station at all nor will it allow to trade with storage. So why would it be max on lets say Scanning Arrays at 1850/1850 when I need another 200 or so to complete the Cargo Hauler that this station has put in infinite limbo for the last 3-4 days.

There should NOT be a limit of cargo that little that you cannot even build a single ship.....mine is the only in queue and there are NO OTHER ships in the dock being readied for building. My ship is the only one but I cannot even start because I do not have enough scanning arrays and this is ALL MY STATIONS....all ship building ground to a screeching half after I built my first 2-3 medium transports....I have a capital ship in Argon waiting for scanning arrays (over 2k needed), cargo ships across other areas....but I am not able to complete this if the array limit is 1850 on the station and I need 2100 lets say in order to complete the order....it is the only part I need but the counter will not start at all, so I am waiting for an infinite loop that is dead in its tracks right now......GAME UNPLAYABLE in this condition as I cannot do anything at all....as I have no option to build my own ships.

[CaptainVolker]

I was wrong in my previous guess about what is going on with the station.

I have a Demeter Sentinel being built at the HOP Paranid Wharf in sector Holy Vision. It is listed as #1-0:02:12 which it has been for quite some time now. My main ship is also at this wharf where it is awaiting upgrades that don't seem to have progressed at all.

Going into the station information -> storage(??? Wares) and looking at the commodities there shows that the station lacks engine parts. I have a transport vessel that I have been using to sell engine parts to the station, but the parts disappear moments after arrival. The number in stock does go up, but only momentarily. I don't have the slightest idea what is causing this problem, but it unfortunately for me is a game-breaking bug as I cannot build a new transport and I don't want to leave the dock without having received the upgrades for my main ship.

Just to add that I am running 1.32 English non-modded version. I have a save with my transport about to arrive at the wharf with a shipment of engine parts: https://www.filehosting.org/file/detail ... 003.xml.gz if that helps.

CV

Edit: --> As of version 1.50 my ships were able to complete their build/upgrades and I am up and running again. My deepest gratitude to everyone at Egosoft; I am very impressed with how responsive the team is there in getting the inevitable release-day bugs ironed out and already adding program upgrades!

[Kamuchi_]

So since beta 2 hit, I finally ran into this issue, even after building several L miners but ordering 2 more and only 1 completed.

Either the storage balancing for each item or the station manager who keeps ordering stockpiles of items it doesn't needs for a balance fails.
1.32 to 1.50b2
https://i.imgur.com/6dOJze3.png

sigh, there goes my game aswel


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[CoolNitro]

Issue I am seeing is close but different......in my game, all the stations need certain parts, but as I have selected the cargo haulers to load and deliver them I am now finding that the station actually CANNOT store enough of the materials as it is 100% max on that material but not max on total storage - it will not accept my hauler to trade with station at all nor will it allow to trade with storage. So why would it be max on lets say Scanning Arrays at 1850/1850 when I need another 200 or so to complete the Cargo Hauler that this station has put in infinite limbo for the last 3-4 days.

As I posted in the mod linked post the number of items listed such as 1850/1850 is misleading the second number is not the max storage of that item but it would seam to be the max that station has ever had, the total limit on any single item is equal to the all of the storage of the station and all items share the same space. So a warf could end up having zero of all other goods but 3mil energy cells taking up all the available space while the interface will show say 0 / 1850 scanning arrays which leads to the general confusion because everyone concludes the latter number to be the stock cap for that item which it is not.

Station storage needs limits per good which it currently doesn't have.

[Kamuchi_]

Station storage needs limits per good which it currently doesn't have.

In that case it's a miracle it only started to be noticable with 1.32 with wars going on again, but no suprise that some got it early and some later, like mine.

[CoolNitro]

Station storage needs limits per good which it currently doesn't have.

In that case it's a miracle it only started to be noticable with 1.32 with wars going on again, but no suprise that some got it early and some later, like mine.

Without wars it would have likely been un-noticed for some time as all the warfs started with a decent number of each item but with the wars stations are consuming lots of high tech items and creating storage space to which traders are flooding low tech goods into them, the S/M argon prime warf in my game for example has over 250,000 energy cells and only 2 engine parts, it's bottle necked due to bad warehouse managers .

Its a pity the game doesn't have tribbles as a trade item as they suit this bug almost perfectly.

[Kamuchi_]

Station storage needs limits per good which it currently doesn't have.

In that case it's a miracle it only started to be noticable with 1.32 with wars going on again, but no suprise that some got it early and some later, like mine.

Without wars it would have likely been un-noticed for some time as all the warfs started with a decent number of each item but with the wars stations are consuming lots of high tech items and creating storage space to which traders are flooding low tech goods into them, the S/M argon prime warf in my game for example has over 250,000 energy cells and only 2 engine parts, it's bottle necked due to bad warehouse managers .

Noticed aswel that the Argon's get a nice starting supply.
This is one hell of a critical bug that needs a global fix so the problem doesn't just shifts to the next station down the chain, hope we'll see a fix for this one soon, I'll even accept a hackjob till a better permanent one is implemented as I just want to play the game lol

[Alan Phipps]

Possible fix in 1.50 beta 4 now on public beta.

[Kamuchi_]

Possible fix in 1.50 beta 4 now on public beta.

This is awesome, wasn't expecting a fix untill thursday or even friday and so far so good, thanks! \☺/
https://i.imgur.com/XjgUtbc.png

[XTC0R]

I just could load my save game for 5mins. But from my 5 ships 3 were directly build and the other 2 were queued correctly. I will let this thread open (not changing the subject to solved)* until Friday when I have time to test it longer or more feedback arrives. But it seems 1.50 beta 4 addressed the issues we mentioned in this thread. ... To be confirmed

*If not a Mod close it before. But since it's a beta we should have some time to test it.

[Spiralrazor]

Ive updated to 1.5.4 as soon as it hit, several stations are still locked up more then 10+ hours later real time. Notably Paranid. Argon seems to be in good shape, but thats it.

[XTC0R]

Ive updated to 1.5.4 as soon as it hit, several stations are still locked up more then 10+ hours later real time. Notably Paranid. Argon seems to be in good shape, but thats it.

Maybe you have a real shortage of resources in your Universe. Can you provide a screenshot of the storage of these stations + ship production list?

[Kamuchi_]

Ive updated to 1.5.4 as soon as it hit, several stations are still locked up more then 10+ hours later real time. Notably Paranid. Argon seems to be in good shape, but thats it.

Maybe you have a real shortage of resources in your Universe. Can you provide a screenshot of the storage of these stations + ship production list?

Think that's his case.
In my game so far everything is getting stocked slowly, but because of a limited amount of smart chip and advanced electronics ships won't build, which is perfect!
Spiralrazor, make a screenshot of the station wares and buy orders, cause so far 1.50b4 looks to be working perfectly with the fixes in it
https://i.imgur.com/5l1Dlti.png


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[Spiralrazor]

will do.

Is print screen working for you guys?

[Kamuchi_]

will do.

Is print screen working for you guys?

No idea, I'm using F12 for the steam screenshot

[ygolnac]

Every warf in my galaxy is the same except Argon Prime ad 18 Billions: they miss several wares to build ships, they are constantly trying to build 8 npc ships and my build orders are stuck at second place and wait time --:-- wich means forever.
If I try to bring the resources myself the staions buys them but uses them to build their ships and my wait time and order queue doesn't change a bit.
This happened in 1.32 and in 1.5 too (same save, didn't restart).
I don't know if it's a bug or intended, but the result is that i can buy or upgrade ships only in 2 wharfs in the entire galaxy.

[Shy'la Nesthorn]

Three hours into a fresh 1.50 full release:


Every station looks like this. Seems that stations' storage fills up on everything else so parts they are empty on can't be restocked and they get stuck