Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

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Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

Post by virgil_182 »

I normally accept bugs and strange "features" and get on with gameplay, enjoying a game for the positive experience it offers.

I can not say that has happened with X4. Don't get me wrong, the foundation (no pun intended) Egosoft has built with X4 is an excellent start, but I paid fifty dollars for a game experience, not an engine on which a finished game might someday be built.

I've had enough of misleading marketing promising greatness even though the game was apparently never actually played at length by anyone before being released. Like X-Rebirth before it, X4 is a shell of a game. Lots of amazing systems, but almost none of it synergizes into actual, interesting, gameplay.

A deeply dynamic economy is amazing, but if you never bother to test it to make sure it functions like a believable economy, what's the point ? All the systems in the game are great on paper but the AI understands almost none of it. After only a few hours the much touted "Living Univese" comes across as smoke and mirrors.

I commend the fans for being positive, but I grow weary of the "just wait, it will be a great game soon" mentality. I simply expected a great game when I purchased a finished product.
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Re: Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

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yes, I have the same feeling, everything is just so placeholder in this game, like the research/science. so silly
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Re: Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

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Its a small company making an extremely Niche game, they probably run development all the way up until money's almost gone and then are forced to release.
It sucks and i wish things worked differently but that's just the way it is, if you want these games to continue to exist then you have to pay early and wait for everything to get fleshed out.
This is why ive never purchased an X series game on sale, i pick them up at release but am fully aware of what im getting and that is essentially an Early access version of a game that within a few years will be far better, i do this to support something i really enjoy and which no one else offers.

It is what it is.
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Re: Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

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we all understand this, and what they have done to x4 is great. even against all its flaws i love it, i just travel on an osprey as a passenger right now just watching the space around me. the stations, the station building, the ships (ok, not all of them but most of them), i like now even the highways and i dont miss seta (i miss jumpdrive though, this teleportation sucks big time) but you still have to make a game a game. now im just watching it as a demo because in a few days ive got everything i can. bases ships allies money.. and then what? Ohh, and while I agree, many things will surely improve and many things will be added dont forget one thing. pathing and AI couldnt be fized in 20 years, it wasnt fixed in XR and it sure as hell wont be fixed in this either and in a sandbox game these are kind of the most important bits other than the immerse vision. And this IS a problem. I would be happy if they wouldnt add more races and more systems just fix the base of the game and thats what is not going to happen... :(
jasonaerts wrote: Tue, 4. Dec 18, 17:57 Its a small company making an extremely Niche game, they probably run development all the way up until money's almost gone and then are forced to release.
It sucks and i wish things worked differently but that's just the way it is, if you want these games to continue to exist then you have to pay early and wait for everything to get fleshed out.
This is why ive never purchased an X series game on sale, i pick them up at release but am fully aware of what im getting and that is essentially an Early access version of a game that within a few years will be far better, i do this to support something i really enjoy and which no one else offers.

It is what it is.
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Re: Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

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jasonaerts wrote: Tue, 4. Dec 18, 17:57 Its a small company making an extremely Niche game, they probably run development all the way up until money's almost gone and then are forced to release.
It sucks and i wish things worked differently but that's just the way it is, if you want these games to continue to exist then you have to pay early and wait for everything to get fleshed out.
This is why ive never purchased an X series game on sale, i pick them up at release but am fully aware of what im getting and that is essentially an Early access version of a game that within a few years will be far better, i do this to support something i really enjoy and which no one else offers.

It is what it is.
Exactly!
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Re: Another shell of a game. Why Egosoft ?

Post by Rimak »

I like it.

Still more to do that in Fallout 76, Sea of theves or some other https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wClfearv4Q games.

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