No info?

[Nikola515]

@Vandragorax
And who are you to tell other people what and when to post ?

[CBJ]

Leave the moderating to the moderators.

[ZombiePotatoSalad]

In addition to marketing (usually that's ALL EA's doing), they also show additional gameplay. They show you more of a game you haven't seen. It serves to keep a game fresh in your mind, show you more of what to expect.

Just because other YouTubers have an opinion of the game doesn't mean it's exactly what you will think. The saying "you never know until you try" rings true. You may like and hate some things that are totally different than the ones mentioned in the review. I liked some parts of Rebirth. I felt the menus were lees cumbersome than X3AP. They were not the best they could be, but they were an improvement. We haven't seen the X4 menu system. Haven't really seen much of the UI either, but going buy the "ship shop" screenshot, it'll look pretty bland at the moment as it seems to be one of the less important things compared to gameplay. I actually found Rebirth to be a passable game in its own right. Not bad, not great. It came into its own nicely, even if it took a couple years to do it. I'm not saying that Egosoft has something to hide, or intends to abscond with our money after delivering an inferior product. I'm simply saying that less is not always more, and speaking as a person who has been burned before, it's rather worrisome.

@Vandragorax You mean the huge Q&A that's a year out of date, and filled with many non-answers and things they weren't sure of at the time, but have to be sure of now, just over 2 weeks to release? You mean the videos that are also a year out of date, that consist of looping segments of pre-recorded gameplay while everyone talks, and still show nothing more than Alpha footage?
So then what's the point of a forum, if not to be checked? I don't just come on here every day, slavering for gameplay. I come on here for conversation, to see what other people wants, suggest, and think. I'm not expecting a gigantic stream of info, but most other games still have more info than this. And as I also said, While I would enjoy more information, it's not the end of the world if they don't show anything more before release. I'm still looking forward to this game. I will still play it the second it hits my hard drive, and I'm not going to watch what other reviewers say until I have played it for myself. I cannot hasten the release date. I still respect Egosoft's decision, even if I don't agree with it.

[Nikola515]

I'm not saying that Egosoft has something to hide,

Actually now personally I'm even starting to think even more that they are hiding something (state of the game). Two weeks left and game is still in beta and not ready to be shown ? Game should have been ironed out by now and PR should have started long time ago.... As I said before it is their business and their game but something is wrong here. Anyway it is not like im going to buy game blindly like I did XR so I don't really care one way or another.

[ZombiePotatoSalad]

I'm not saying that Egosoft has something to hide,

Actually now personally I'm even starting to think even more that they are hiding something (state of the game). Two weeks left and game is still in beta and not ready to be shown ? Game should have been ironed out by now and PR should have started long time ago.... As I said before it is their business and their game but something is wrong here. Anyway it is not like im going to buy game blindly like I did XR so I don't really care one way or another.

Maybe they are planning a preview, but want to make sure it's more polished before they show it off? I remember at a preview event for Shadow of War, an Olog they coded to return from the dead had died from decapitation, then came back... missing his head. That didn't stop him from talking, though. They want to make sure whatever they show, if they choose to show anything, is as polished as it can be, or at least some approximation.

I estimate we will see something (should they choose to show anything before release) on the 20th. It's a nice, even date (10 days before release), and would help to kick off the home stretch. If they choose to show nothing, then it's 10 days to release anyway

[Alan Phipps]

Since they aren't showing us something, they are hiding something … Well I can't fault the logic there.

[Nikola515]

Maybe they are planning a preview, but want to make sure it's more polished before they show it off?

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I don't think this is the case... Game should have been done by now so I don't think they should worry about that (unless im right). When it comes to games like X4 (that is using XR engine) two weeks would be like drop in the bucket. Remember it took them years to polish XR and that is one of reasons why I don't buy official story. I just don't like this new trend where we buy finished game (that is unfinished) and wait years until it is finished.

They want to make sure whatever they show, if they choose to show anything, is as polished as it can be, or at least some approximation.

I estimate we will see something (should they choose to show anything before release) on the 20th. It's a nice, even date (10 days before release), and would help to kick off the home stretch. If they choose to show nothing, then it's 10 days to release anyway

Im sure we will see some nice videos of stations pretty lights and explosions (like with XR). I also think they will show us how crew & mining will work (I hope). The sooner they do it the better especially now..... I don't see any tactical PR advantage withholding information especially with some main titles coming on market (unless they are intentionally want to stay under radar ).

[Nikola515]

Since they aren't showing us something, they are hiding something … Well I can't fault the logic there.

I thought you wore XR survivor If so than you should remember that they didn't show us anything because they wore hiding something

[StoneLegionYT]

They are working to the last minute. I have a feeling maybe a few days before they will share more but these are the kind of devs that don't sit on their hands for 2 months after "gold status" if such a term exists anymore on their team as they don't need to print copies anymore.

I know it's frustrating but honestly 2 weeks left and the game will be in everyone's hands and will be all happy mates.

[Nikola515]

I know it's frustrating but honestly 2 weeks left and the game will be in everyone's hands and will be all happy mates.

I think you got me all wrong.... I don't really care if game is out tomorrow or a year from now. I just want game to be in working condition when it is out for their sake and not my. If game is not ready I wouldn't mind if they delay it and not have XR 2.0... We are all here because we like X games and we want them to succeed and we don't want them to turn like EA.

My argument is based on their past behavior and probability why it might happen again. People might agree or not but there is little evidence to support otherwise.
Im just saying how I see it..... Im not here to impress anyone and im not looking for a job or free game so I don't care one way or another (im not bias in this regard ). I might like Egosoft and their games but I will point out when I see something wrong....

[csaba]

They are probably planning 1-2 videos before release.

If you want to maximize profits than you wait until the last minute so people new to the franchise see a close release date and buy it right away.

So I'd say PHQ video dropping probably middle to end of next week. If we don't get it next week I'm going to worry a bit as well.

Another QA video 2-3 days before release.

My preorder doesn't feel wasted even if the game is in a bad state since I'd buy X4 later down the road anyway. Might as well not miss out on the launch. Of course I'd probably miss out on some sales where I could get the game 40 Euros cheaper but whatever, ain't the end of the world.

On company side Egosoft seems to have survived well on the core playerbase for a very long time, honestly I wouldn't mind them staying that way. So I might prefer a really buggy launch just so Egosoft doesn't go down the path as EA, Bethesda or Blizzard. Actually if they succeed we would likely get XRebirth on the phone 5 years from now...

[nemesis1982]

Since they aren't showing us something, they are hiding something … Well I can't fault the logic there.

Ah yeah the good old if I do not understand then it must be bad...

Hmm that dude is smiling. HE MUST BE UP TO SOMETHING!
Hmm she's looking over her shoulder. SHE MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG!
Hmm they aren't giving us any new information. THEY ARE PLOTTING SOMETHING!
Hmm they've only shown prerecorded things. IT MUST NOT EXIST THEN!
Hmm they won't give us a demo. THEY MUST NOT WANT TO SELL THEIR PRODUCT!
Hmm he has long hairs now. HE MUST BE INTO THE DARK ARTS!

[Nikola515]

On company side Egosoft seems to have survived well on the core playerbase for a very long time, honestly I wouldn't mind them staying that way. So I might prefer a really buggy launch just so Egosoft doesn't go down the path as EA, Bethesda or Blizzard. Actually if they succeed we would likely get XRebirth on the phone 5 years from now...

That is true but there is much more competition now than it was before. It is just matter of time before someone starts making X clones.... Egosoft works for players while EA or Blizzard works for investors... Don't get me wrong I understand Egos financial position and why im standing behind them. But I cant agree with you about buggy launch..... I don't have problem with that at all but I do have problem when it is sold as finished game. If game is buggy and unfinished it should be in early access (I don't like to be lied). I don't think this is unreasonable to ask ?

[Nikola515]

don't worry be happy everything's gonna be alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueR0lJzIxWo

[Alci]

I thought you wore XR survivor If so than you should remember that they didn't show us anything because they wore hiding something

I remember I saw enough to buy. I remember things they've said were in the game. And the game was working within promised parameters

For someone who "doesn't really care" you care even more then me. And I care more then I probably should

[csaba]

That is true but there is much more competition now than it was before. It is just matter of time before someone starts making X clones.... Egosoft works for players while EA or Blizzard works for investors... Don't get me wrong I understand Egos financial position and why im standing behind them. But I cant agree with you about buggy launch.....

I think SC will have a simulated economy but it's an MMO and the background simulation runs on servers. It's too much work to just make an X clone, maybe when bots get smart enough to make complex things like this but not anytime soon.

I don't have problem with that at all but I do have problem when it is sold as finished game. If game is buggy and unfinished it should be in early access (I don't like to be lied). I don't think this is unreasonable to ask ?

Is it really that surprising to get a buggy X game at launch after 20 years of buggy releases? Don't see it how is it lying. XR walked a thin line, I was angry as well. However that was marketed as an AAA. X4 is much more modest in it's marketing.

don't worry be happy everything's gonna be alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueR0lJzIxWo

YOU MONSTER!

[Alci]

I just don't like this new trend where we buy finished game (that is unfinished) and wait years until it is finished.

once again, "new trend", "these days", like it was never done before...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_delivery

... it starts with premise "it is never finished".

[Nikola515]

I thought you wore XR survivor If so than you should remember that they didn't show us anything because they wore hiding something

I remember I saw enough to buy. I remember things they've said were in the game. And the game was working within promised parameters

Well let me refresh your memory than

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxUx96-6-dw

[Nikola515]

I just don't like this new trend where we buy finished game (that is unfinished) and wait years until it is finished.

once again, "new trend", "these days", like it was never done before...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_delivery

... it starts with premise "it is never finished".

Two wrongs make a right ? Is this your logic ?

Edit: Are going to buy antivirus that don't work and they tell you that they will fix upgrade it year later ???? There Is things called standards and if you cant keep them don't cry when someone calls you on it. You can be offended all you want but market don't care....

[Nikola515]

I think SC will have a simulated economy but it's an MMO and the background simulation runs on servers. It's too much work to just make an X clone, maybe when bots get smart enough to make complex things like this but not anytime soon.

That is if it ever comes out..... There is Eve but players do all the work (cant stand online games). Space game industry is just starting/evolving so im sure we will get more in future....

Is it really that surprising to get a buggy X game at launch after 20 years of buggy releases? Don't see it how is it lying. XR walked a thin line, I was angry as well. However that was marketed as an AAA. X4 is much more modest in it's marketing.

Game wasn't obvious finished to the point that it had game braking bugs and unfinished features. For example player ships didn't shoot or follow any orders or 100 E-Cell bug as well as PMC boarding mission.... Than we had economy that was broken.... I should say buggy game would be ok (even best polished game have bugs) but buggy as hell is not ok What happened it happened I just don't want to see this again.

YOU MONSTER!

Sorry I had to do it