New Series of Doctor Who

[pjknibbs]

Oh, Brilliant!

Oh, agreed. Despite my minor nit-pick above, I think this episode was one of, if not *the*, best Capaldi episodes I've seen. If only he'd been able to hit those heights more often during his run we'd have been talking about him as an all-time classic.

[EDIT] Something cool just occurred to me:

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When the First Doctor realises who Capaldi is, he says, "I thought I would regenerate into someone younger?" Hartnell was only 58 when he left Doctor Who, while Capaldi is now 59, so Capaldi would indeed be older than the First Doctor was!

[matthewfarmery]

It was a good episode, but I think it had one major blooper

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the 12th doctor's TARDIS was taken by the ship, so the two doctors used the first Doctor's TARDIS to travel to the Dalek library, all fine there, but when did they go back to recover the TARDIS? because we then see both TARDIS in space, and they didn't go back to the ship to recover the second? its like they missed a scene there.

But I would say that was fine acting from Capaldi, and yes, it is a shame we didn't see that much, otherwise, I would have rated him a lot higher. But then again, the episode was written by Steven Moffat, so that probably had something to do with it.

Overall, great episode, hopefully the new season will be good as well. [/b]

[Antilogic]

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"Doctor... I let you go."

Very much a forth wall "Goodbye" from both Capaldi and Moffat (and I like him a lot, as do many people, despite the constant and very nasty vitriol on the internet). They had both loved the Doctor since they were kids and were both dying to do something with the show. Now it is done, the torch is passed.

Jodie, good luck I can't wait.

[pjknibbs]

I wonder if the characterisation of the First Doctor here was done with the handover from Capaldi to Jodie in mind?

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He seemed more...well...misogynistic than I remember him being from actual episodes he appeared in. Could be Moffat trying to get the people who insist the Doctor can't be a woman to look their own prejudices in the eye.

[Antilogic]

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Very possible. For me, having not seen much of the first doctors episodes, it was more of a good laugh - seeing 12 run around "no no no you mustn't say that" sort of thing and getting all embarrassed whenever 1 talked to Potts in a condescending or misogynistic manner.

That's a fair point to come across as well, we all have things in our pasts we are not proud of. Leaving them in the past and moving forward to improve ourselves today (somewhat literally in the Doctors case?) is important.

[jlehtone]

@pjknibbs:

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How well does the 12th / audience know the history of the Lethbridge-Stewart clan? Did we know, one way or the other?

"*that* situation" we had already after the first utterance of "Geronimo!". Well, almost but not quite. Repetition makes the master?

Enjoyable episode.

Did the old series have Christmas specials?

[pjknibbs]

It was a good episode, but I think it had one major blooper

Thinking about it, I don't think that's a plot hole?

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By that time the Doctor had already acknowledged that Testimony aren't some evil organisation and had agreed to return the soldier to his Ypres shell hole, so they could have brought his TARDIS to him or he could have been allowed back aboard their ship to retrieve it--we just didn't need to *see* that.

@jlehtone: No, the old series didn't generally have Christmas specials--they weren't really a thing for drama programmes back in the 70s and 80s. As for your other question:

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We've met Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart's daughter--she's the Chief Scientific Officer for UNIT these days, and is played by Jemma Redgrave.

[Bishop149]

Oh, Brilliant!

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That was a well thought out line. I was so afraid that her first line would be some awful hackneyed reference to the new found possession of female body parts. Much as Capaldi's made reference to his being Scottish.

Edit: Oh I also just saw a take on this that the line is a reflection on the Dr being kinda "rewarded" for his eventual decision not to give up to death with a new experience. Which I must admit I kind like.

[Redvers Ganderpoke]

This topic seems to have disappeared, is it no one is watching any more?.
I know I stopped watch halfway through the awful dalek New Year's Day episode in 2019. My daughter has loved Doctor Who since it's restart and has watch the 9th to the 11th several times now. But we sat watching that New Year's Day episode and I asked her if she wanted to watch to the end. "No, turn it off", she said, "it isn't Doctor Who anymore." She's shown no interest in watching it since.

[pjknibbs]

I did try the first couple of episodes of Jodie Whittaker's first run, but it just didn't feel right--not because she's a woman, but because they seemed to be giving way too much screentime to people who aren't the Doctor. I mean, you expect the Doctor to have companions, but their main purpose in life is to be the audience's stand-in and ask the silly questions while the Doctor wipes their botties and fixes stuff for them, not to be main characters in their own right.

[burger1]

Some of this seasons episode weren't bad "mostly". Season 12 episode 8 The Haunting of Villa Diodati , episode 4 Nickola Teslas Night of Terror. The start of the season was better than lasts seasons. I think someone like Alex Kingston (River Song) would be a better Doctor.

It looks like some of the companions are leaving. "Yaz will be back but Christmas will be the last outing for Ryan and Graham". Graham was the better companion.

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