Trump

[X2-Illuminatus]

If he gets elected as President, I am very seriously considering moving to Canada.

Are you aware of the Bricking It for Canada campaign?

That's friggin hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFfUSxPUXKA

http://brickingitforcanada.com/

I clicked... Does that make me a bad citizen? Or.. does it make me a conscientious World Citizen who cares about my soon-to-be Canadian brethren?

Apparently, the Canadians have started to build the wall already.

[Morkonan]

...Apparently, the Canadians have started to build the wall already.

Excellent!

But, I doubt its authenticity - He didn't apologize for anything...

[mrbadger]

The ones who are worried about him emulating Hitler are the ones who have internalized the media narrative.

I have? That sounds posh

Take your time to watch several of his speeches in their entirety (a daunting task, I'll admit) and you'll see that the person he most resembles is Silvio Berlusconi

yeah, I'll pass, and actually a lot of his rhetoric, or that reported I'll grant, is similer to that which caused the nazi party to gain support. I'm not saying he's directly emulating that nice Mr Hilter (Python reference there, ain't I smart ), but he's skirting rather close. I heard many years ago that if Mr Hilter had been assasinated before the preperations for WW2 kicked offe'd still be revered there today for turning Germany round. An imperfect conclusion I'll grant, but he did impressive things before that whole 'kill anyone different to us' bit. After then things did go downhill a tad didn't they....

Even if I'm wrong, having that loon anywhare near command of the worlds most powerful military is a tad worrying. And the demographic he's targetting aren't exactly the ones most interested in promoting science and such.

[felter]

The guys scares the hell out of me.

I can just see it, he is voted President of the US of A and he is in the oval office, sees the big red button and thinks to himself 'I wonder what would happen if I press it' before actually pressing it.

I honestly think that if he gets into power, it will be the worst thing that could happen to America, just because no one outside of America actually likes the guy, and he can't get along with others.

[Masterbagger]

Trump doesn't behave like a politician. At the very minimum it's refreshing to watch. The alternative to Trump is a socialist or the most corrupt and amoral woman in politics. American elections have always been about the lesser of two evils for as far as I can remember. We could do worse than Trump.

[mrbadger]

you could do worse in an electoral campaign, yes, those are boring 'the one with the most toys wins' affairs. I just get annoyed by the fact that money and hypocrasy (remember religion didn't matter in political office holding till Carter, except he actually was[ really religious).

They created this situation, Trump is just the first one to realise he could stand a chance of winning by pretty much just being an openly dishonest pompous moron. And he's right.

Yes the race in more interesting, but if he wins America is, in the short term at least, boned.

[Mightysword]

So, what? How is this guy even in the running for leading the Republicans? Why hasn't he been kicked out to be an independant?

They can't, unless they want to hang the Democrat the White House again for free. The GOP took the poison pill, now they're choking on it.

The raise of Trump can be counted back 6 years ago in the mid term election of Obama's first term. The GOP was on life support with Democrat control both chamber and the white-house. So the GOP opened the door to the so called "Tea party", and use its "energy" (their word) to win back the house. I still remember clearly, those energy are just a bunch of rage and pissed off people who turned a lot of town hall meeting into shouting match. The GOP embraced it for a while.

But it didn't take long for some of the old guard to start becoming cautious of the movement. Long before the start of the election circle some GOP Senators had repeatedly called out Tea Party, some even floating the idea that the GOP should split the Tea party to become their own party, instead of letting them carrying the GOP's branch. Of course Republican leadership will never have the ball to do it. Because doing so meaning handing the majority back to Democrat for sure. It seems the Republican bites the bullet, it's more important for them to not letting a Democrat's agenda through than promoting their own.


Boerner was ousted, and now Trump. To be honest there are two things about Trump that made me giggle:

- To see the media fail so spectacularly in bringing him down. The media for too long have been believe themselves poweful, playing Kingmaker for the most part, it's nice to see them getting shitted on.
- To see the GOP imploding from the inside. After all, like I said, this is their own doing. The price one has to pay when you give up your soul to the devil for a deal no matter the cost.

Sadly, neither points translate into a good president candidate, but you have to admit there is some kind of poetic justice here.

[theeclownbroze]

Everyone is worse than trump.

[Gosnell]

Guys will you calm down about trump,he isnt the next hitler ect,alot of the media is hyperboling.

[notaterran]

Heh, I wonder about Trump's version of "bunga bunga" parties (if he wins -mighty big "if"- you know they'll happen). Trump can be credited with bringing the vulgarity of reality TV (i.e. the crude language, the tasteless ostentatiousness) into our mainstream politics. His rallies have been right down there in the gutter where the Kardashians and the Real Housewives of Atlanta reside.

Give it to Trump, politics haven't been this entertaining in a while

[Mightysword]

uys will you calm down about trump,he isnt the next hitler ectG,alot of the media is hyperboling.

And they're failing, I love it.

[notaterran]

- To see the media fail so spectacularly in bringing him down. The media for too long have been believe themselves poweful, playing Kingmaker for the most part, it's nice to see them getting shitted on.

Actually they're still going easy on him, and the reason has been obvious for the past several months: Trump = good ratings. That stuff about Trump University and such? The press had that information for a long time but the ones who deployed it were Cruz and Rubio, and that was pretty far down the calendar. They (the press) are trying to milk the guy for all they can before they really turn on him. And they WILL turn on him in the general because Trump has threatened to limit what the press can say. They'll be on him like rabid dogs. And my best guess is, that will happen right after the convention in Cleveland. Trump has a real shot at the nomination, but Trump winning the White House? I'm more likely to jump back in time to 1972 and have sex with Helen Mirren.

[Sorkvild]

Soros (et consortes) linked establishment can't discuss with Trump, this guy ain't Cruz or Jeb they can counter in a debate. Trump is a different league, a league they can't tackle. Establishment is pathetic and lost already by using argumentum ad Hitlerum widely, not to mention attempts of recent physical and verbal assaults.
Marxist Hilalry / communist Sanders and feared by pseudoliberal media (judging by the amount of manure they are throwing at thim) - Donald Trump who tells like it is by turning the political correctness inside out. I'd not worry about Trump, this guy is able and ready. I'd be more worried about the triumph of Obama epigones advocating for more socialism and control.

[Len5]

Trump isn't PC and that's why everyone loves to attack him and say how bad he is, just to show other people how good they are.

"Look at me, I'm such a good person, because I say Trump is the next Hitler."

[felter]

The Simpsons episode Bart to the future from 2000 predicted that Trump would become president just before Lisa Simpson Became president:

38-year-old Lisa is the first straight female President of the United States, trying to rebuild the country after the economic downfall during the rule of Donald Trump.

[Aken_Bosch]

But remember, Berlusconi won three elections and Italy is still standing - on the sharp edge of an unfathomable abyss of uncertainty and recession**.

**There, I fixed it for you.

One thing that may be not really known outside of the country...with all the bad that can be said about Berlusconi (and there's an embarassing lot of that), actually he's been the last prime minister being indeed elected by the (tight) majority of people through a normal election process...after that, he was practically forced to resign during the peak of the "spread" crisis and the president of republic replaced him with a contingency government lead by Mr. Monti...then, through internal "agreements" the Monti administration was replaced by the Letta one, that was replaced after a short time by the current Renzi administration.

To sum it up, the last time italian people has been allowed to vote their national governors has been more than six years and three legislatures ago, and even on that occasion we chose an absolute clown. Never underestimate the combined will power of a whole country to royally screw themselves.

That said, I agree with you, if there's someone to compare Trump to, that is definitely Silvio Berlusconi: same entrepreneur background, same loud-mouthed attitude, same self-reverence...convergent evolution at work...the difference being, the biggest threat Italy could pose to World peace was probably stopping the export of Nutella, or some similarly ill-fated decision leading to global catastrophe.

@felter - there's another Simpsons episode set in Italy where Homer mimics from a balcony the moves and gestures of Mussolini...when he is scolded by Lisa for that, he replies that he actually intended to imitate Trump...retrospectively disturbing...

[clakclak]

Does it even matter if he wins? Everyone knows that after his first term Kanye West will replace him that is of course unless Taylor Swift decides to run for the oval office.

[Mightysword]

They created this situation, Trump is just the first one to realise he could stand a chance of winning by pretty much just being an openly dishonest pompous moron. And he's right.

Pompous? Maybe. Moron? Debatable. Dishonest ... depend on relative angle. No one gonna say Trump is an honest man, but than, name me a honest politician. Did you watch Trump's victory speech at Nevada last month? I'll paraphrase a part of it:

"It's true that I'm very greedy. I love money, and all my life I have always want to grab grab grab, I can't have enough of it".

Now, he's the only candidate that can survive saying something like that, no other candidates would survive saying anything close to "I love money". Let's put it in respective of other front runners:

- Hilary: claiming she will brings the fight to wallstreet, yet everytime people brings up the fact she has no qualm received 6-7 digits donation from wallstreet, or her daughter receiving 600k/year salary with no experience, she always try to play down the effect.

- Cruz: claiming he's clean, his wife and him risked everything (morgate their house and all that crap) for him to start the nomination race. Yet, he seems to forget to mention he also got a nice fat loan from Golden to help out.

Of course, when confronted they all give some kind of "valid" excuse, but given the mood and general perception of the electorate, it's not surprise why Trump doing so well. After all, we have all settle down to the fact all the politician are crook, might as well pick a crook who is the least hypocrite among them all.

Edit: So I just got home after work today and round up the result of today's primary on multiple channel. I kinda have this impression for a while now but today I think it's undoubly the case but ... why is it the UK (i.e to extended shown on BBC) seem to be more even afraid of a Trump president than even the American do?

[felter]

Because we actually see what damage he will do, which will effect everyone on the planet, while the Americans seem to be wearing blinkers and can't seem to either see or grasp what kind of person Trump really is.

[Len5]

So what's that damage he will do actually?