Shipyards - list of schematics

[SPzzz]

Checked the official manual (page 24) and it has not even a hint in this regard. Tried forum search and of course it is buried somewhere only a few can find.

To the problem: different shipyards can only build or support specific ships, so where is the list of these ships ?

On not so related topic, how hard could it be for a specialist to add drones to the ship of unknown schematics and why can't I move the drones from cargo bay to the drones area - whatever it is called - to make them actually used ?

[Baconnaise]

Manuals are always out of date even before you can buy the game. It's been a dead medium for a decade perhaps longer. It's why we see all the various Wiki's instead now.

Drones are only added at a shipyard unless it's the Albion Skunk. There is no alternative.

[UniTrader]

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[Snafu_X3]

To the problem: different shipyards can only build or support specific ships, so where is the list of these ships ?

Shipyards will mostly build different ships according to their system or race: Albion shipyards build Albion ships, OL build OL ships, Teladi build Teladi ships, etc. This is modified by which specific trader you are talking to: XL traders will build XL ships only but may 'modify' (repair or upgrade) smaller ships (I think); L traders can't build XL ships; small or civilian boatyards can only build/repair small non-jump-capable ships such as fighters or small freighters, eg Gigurum (if it requires a pilot it's a small ship; if it requires a crew of 3 it's L or XL)

On not so related topic, how hard could it be for a specialist to add drones to the ship of unknown schematics and why can't I move the drones from cargo bay to the drones area - whatever it is called - to make them actually used ?

Sounds like you asked the wrong trader to equip the drones for you; if his dock isn't big enough he can't fit the ship into it to equip or repair it. However it's almost always cheaper to buy the drones as cargo then use 'Transfer Wares' from a different capship to equip them on the target ship

[SPzzz]

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Nice, thanks !

Sounds like you asked the wrong trader to equip the drones for you; if his dock isn't big enough he can't fit the ship into it to equip or repair it. However it's almost always cheaper to buy the drones as cargo then use 'Transfer Wares' from a different capship to equip them on the target ship

I believe I've checked all Albion (and of course DeVries) shipyards and dealers, haven't seen an option to add the drones to Titurel anywhere. I believe that the Titurel cargo bay was destroyed when cargo drones (except for one) were transfered, and because the trasfering ship is long sold there's no other ships with cargo drones. it is possible of course to buy one, but it makes little sense.

As a conclusion: repairing and changing weapons by schematics seems reasonable, adding drones and ammo - not so much.

[UniTrader]

. This is modified by which specific trader you are talking to: XL traders will build XL ships only but may 'modify' (repair or upgrade) smaller ships (I think);

not in Vanilla. XL Cradle is there for XL Ships only, L Cradle is for L Ships only. i made a mod which changes this though. (in theory the XL Cradle could build L ships with that, but i didnt bother to implement it - XL Cradle is busy enough anyway imo

[spankahontis]

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Nice, thanks !

Sounds like you asked the wrong trader to equip the drones for you; if his dock isn't big enough he can't fit the ship into it to equip or repair it. However it's almost always cheaper to buy the drones as cargo then use 'Transfer Wares' from a different capship to equip them on the target ship

I believe I've checked all Albion (and of course DeVries) shipyards and dealers, haven't seen an option to add the drones to Titurel anywhere. I believe that the Titurel cargo bay was destroyed when cargo drones (except for one) were transfered, and because the trasfering ship is long sold there's no other ships with cargo drones. it is possible of course to buy one, but it makes little sense.

As a conclusion: repairing and changing weapons by schematics seems reasonable, adding drones and ammo - not so much.

The Titural is an XL Ship, you need to go to the XL Shipyard to modify/repair it.

[SPzzz]

The Titural is an XL Ship, you need to go to the XL Shipyard to modify/repair it.

The funny thing about it is that with Taranis and Titural at my squad, both at my sector, they appear only at the list of the Small Ships Dealer and they can't be Selected (only highlighted, the Select button is inactive). Probably because the ship needs to replace the Construction Vessel that is being built (0% for who knows how long). [s]I'm very tired of guessing what needs to be done anyway and will probably go a stupid way of buying another ship just to get its cargo drones.[/s] hahaha, they come without drones. well, idk then, will get back to it when I feel like wasting time again.

[spankahontis]

The Titural is an XL Ship, you need to go to the XL Shipyard to modify/repair it.

The funny thing about it is that with Taranis and Titural at my squad, both at my sector, they appear only at the list of the Small Ships Dealer and they can't be Selected (only highlighted, the Select button is inactive). Probably because the ship needs to replace the Construction Vessel that is being built (0% for who knows how long). [s]I'm very tired of guessing what needs to be done anyway and will probably go a stupid way of buying another ship just to get its cargo drones.[/s] hahaha, they come without drones. well, idk then, will get back to it when I feel like wasting time again.

That's odd, it works fine on mine, capped a Titural the other day and sent it the XL Ship Dealer to have it modified with drones.
No problems to it.

If you have a savefile, post it and i'll check it out.
Are you using any mods?

[Snafu_X3]

I believe I've checked all Albion (and of course DeVries) shipyards and dealers, haven't seen an option to add the drones to Titurel anywhere. I believe that the Titurel cargo bay was destroyed when cargo drones (except for one) were transfered, and because the trasfering ship is long sold there's no other ships with cargo drones. it is possible of course to buy one, but it makes little sense.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. If the Tit's drone bay is destroyed it can't use, transfer or accept drones except as cargo (& it will have lost any drones held within the bay - /not/ drones outside the ship performing repairs, transferring cargo etc); you must wait until it's been repaired. If the drone bay /hasn't/ been destroyed (or reduced to below 25%) then you can use it to transfer drones or repair or whatever.. See also Here

At least, that's my current understanding. Unitrader may have more to say here..

[SPzzz]

That's odd, it works fine on mine, capped a Titural the other day and sent it the XL Ship Dealer to have it modified with drones.
No problems to it.

If you have a savefile, post it and i'll check it out.
Are you using any mods?

Thanks, by your guidance I double-checked the XL dealers and one of them (at Gemstone Manufacture) accepted both Taranis and Titural for modifications. I'll attach a savegame file with the small ships dealer if anybody wants to look at why he had these ships listed.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. If the Tit's drone bay is destroyed it can't use, transfer or accept drones except as cargo (& it will have lost any drones held within the bay - /not/ drones outside the ship performing repairs, transferring cargo etc); you must wait until it's been repaired. If the drone bay /hasn't/ been destroyed (or reduced to below 25%) then you can use it to transfer drones or repair or whatever.. See also Here

At least, that's my current understanding. Unitrader may have more to say here..

True, I wasn't patient enough though and failed to understand that the drones won't be used automatically once the bay is repaired.

Thanks for all the help, guys.

[spankahontis]

That's odd, it works fine on mine, capped a Titural the other day and sent it the XL Ship Dealer to have it modified with drones.
No problems to it.

If you have a savefile, post it and i'll check it out.
Are you using any mods?

Thanks, by your guidance I double-checked the XL dealers and one of them (at Gemstone Manufacture) accepted both Taranis and Titural for modifications. I'll attach a savegame file with the small ships dealer if anybody wants to look at why he had these ships listed.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. If the Tit's drone bay is destroyed it can't use, transfer or accept drones except as cargo (& it will have lost any drones held within the bay - /not/ drones outside the ship performing repairs, transferring cargo etc); you must wait until it's been repaired. If the drone bay /hasn't/ been destroyed (or reduced to below 25%) then you can use it to transfer drones or repair or whatever.. See also Here

At least, that's my current understanding. Unitrader may have more to say here..

True, I wasn't patient enough though and failed to understand that the drones won't be used automatically once the bay is repaired.

Thanks for all the help, guys.

It wouldn't accept the savefile on mine, said it was incompatible on game menu.
It's an old version or has it got Mods installed like I asked? As It wont load up if your using mods so we can't help you until you remove the mods.

But sounds like you've got it working? Enjoy.